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Post by Ganso Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:03 pm

The number of goals they concede under Tito is insane
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Post by Clockwork Orange Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:34 pm

This is getting embarrassing. Tito do something!
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Post by The Messiah Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:39 pm

They are not winning it, why? Because Bayern are winning it
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Post by Ganso Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:41 pm

i was checking stats out and they only have 2 clean sheets,counting cl games
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Post by sportsczy Sat Oct 20, 2012 6:52 pm

i'm no Barca fan lol... but they are missing their Alves, Puyol and Pique. Puyol is not such a big deal. But it is with the other guys.

Also, as Xavi and Iniesta get older, the midfield domination cannot be sustained for 90 mins. So they need a better defense than they have because they are facing a lot more true attacking plays.

Abidal is supposed to be back in about a month too.
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Post by Ganso Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:00 pm

They were missing those players today,but what about the rest of the season? Also abidal isn't going to start ahead of alba
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Post by danyjr Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:03 pm

sportsczy wrote:Also, as Xavi and Iniesta get older, the midfield domination cannot be sustained for 90 mins.
Iniesta is not old.
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Post by danyjr Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:07 pm

Ganso wrote:They were missing those players today,but what about the rest of the season? Also abidal isn't going to start ahead of alba
Defensively speaking, Abidal (pre-cancer) would have shat on Alba, amongst others <add your favourite LB here>. Alba is not a defender. He is one of those players whom isn't naturally a winger (he has pace and crosses well but he can't dribble for shit and isn't composed on the ball at all) nor a defender (poor decision-making, no height or physical presence). He's a jack of all trades master of none.
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Post by gondov Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:09 pm

What a silly knee jerk. Until today,barca had conceded the same number of goals as Real in laliga.

Tell me if your team can pull it off without CBs, only DMs and wingers plus going 10-men down :facepalm:

Once Pique or Puyol comes back, we will be sorted.


On the other hand - Messi = :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

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Post by Onyx Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:11 pm

Barca were better defensively under Pep.

However I guess they can always outscore in the CL too?


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Post by eelir Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:11 pm

Ganso wrote:They were missing those players today,but what about the rest of the season? Also abidal isn't going to start ahead of alba

Obviously you haven't followed Barca this season.
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Post by Donuts Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:16 pm

Ganso wrote:i was checking stats out and they only have 2 clean sheets,counting cl games
Also undefeated so since when has cleansheets meant the whole story?
Our whole back line is missing, we were one man down I'd like to know a team that could surpass that.
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Post by pewpew Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Barca have a great chance of winning CL. When they get Pique back they will improve.

Also Barca seems to enjoy winning CL every other year. So why not?

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Honestly if we had played a midfield of Xavi - Iniesta - Busi from the start we would not have conceded 4 goals, but we would have also scored less. In these times when our defense is going through an injury crisis it's key that we maintain as much possession as possible, and that's simply not possible with Cesc.

With Tito we no longer dominate but we entertain more. A trade-off Cruyff would have been proud of? hmm
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Post by billy_gr Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:26 pm

People seem to think Puyol's absence is no big deal but let's face it I'd pick a 40 yo Puyol over Song anyday
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Post by The Messiah Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:28 pm

How many will Mandzukic put pass Barca with such shitty defence...?


Now Imagine how Many assist Ribery will make.


Bayern defence, 2 goals in 8 league matches this season and people still say our defense is shiit.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:28 pm

Yeah Puyol's absence in leadership is very felt. How many times did we see two defenders going after the same ball? Today's defense had little chemistry and structure.
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Post by windkick Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:32 pm

Difference between Bayern and Barca?

Barca hasn't been dropping the ball hard left and right over the last 4 years. They show up to win, on the other hand Bayern (you can also count Germanys performance which as Bayern players and also Spains performances which have Barca players) crumbles and comes up short
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Post by Onyx Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:32 pm

Barca were more entertaining under Pep imo.

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Post by The Messiah Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:34 pm

windkick wrote:Difference between Bayern and Barca?

Barca hasn't been dropping the ball hard left and right over the last 4 years. They show up to win, on the other hand Bayern (you can also count Germanys performance which as Bayern players and also Spains performances which have Barca players) crumbles and comes up short


Like we are talking about the last 4 years or current team.

When Barca beat Madrid, you can call me.
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Post by Donuts Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:45 pm

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windkick wrote:Difference between Bayern and Barca?

Barca hasn't been dropping the ball hard left and right over the last 4 years. They show up to win, on the other hand Bayern (you can also count Germanys performance which as Bayern players and also Spains performances which have Barca players) crumbles and comes up short


Like we are talking about the last 4 years or current team.

When Barca beat Madrid, you can call me.
This season 1 W 1 D 1 L scratch
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Post by The Messiah Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:48 pm

You know what you guys are right, Madrid and Barca are the Landmark and Bayern isn't good enough.


Can't wait to meet one of these Spanish teams again, like beating Villareal, Madrid and Valencia in space of 1 year is not sufficient.

With that defence I doubt if Barca can challenge in CPL, I am eagerly anticipating a Barca vs Bayern clash, this time around it will be clash of the gods, not clash of the titans.


Bayern graduated from titans to god this season.


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Post by Donuts Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:49 pm

The Messiah wrote:You know what you guys are right, Madrid and Barca are the Landmark and Bayern isn't good enough.


Can't wait to meet one of these Spanish teams again, like beating Madrid and Valencia is not sufficient.

With that defence I doubt if Barca can challenge in CPL
What are you even talking about, no one even brought up Bayern in this thread except you nor has anyone said who is better or not your insecurity is so high it's crazy.
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Post by free_cat Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:49 pm

Well, it's not a very risky bet to say that Barça wont' win the CL. It's much more likely that Barça doesn't win it, that we do.

However, I don't see any reason why this current team is less likely to win it than last year's team. Yes, we concede more (although today's goals had litle to do with bad defending), but we are also better in attack. For instance, I don't see last season's chelsea being able to hold this Barça for 45 minutes with 10 men. Impossible. While Pep's Barça was more unable to break off park the bus defences (so far).

We can break the myth that says that attacks win you games but defences trophies.


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Post by The Messiah Sat Oct 20, 2012 7:51 pm

Donuts wrote:
The Messiah wrote:You know what you guys are right, Madrid and Barca are the Landmark and Bayern isn't good enough.


Can't wait to meet one of these Spanish teams again, like beating Madrid and Valencia is not sufficient.

With that defence I doubt if Barca can challenge in CPL
What are you even talking about, no one even brought up Bayern in this thread except you nor has anyone said who is better or not your insecurity is so high it's crazy.

I din't just bring Bayern into the thread, I said if a shit team like Depotivo can score 4 against Barca, including all the easy goals they have been conceding this season, then how many will Mandzukic put past them...?
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