Harry Kane: 2016/17 prediction poll

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Will Kane confirm his performance in 2016/17 or remain a two season wonder?

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:32 pm

I'm calling it. Kane has peaked.
It's downhill back to his actual midtable place from here.

What do you guys think?

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:35 pm

Would be much obliged if some benevolent mod could edit the poll to say 16/17 (I forgot to change it after copying it from my other thread)?
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Post by Luca Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:56 pm

I think you're an ass to be honest

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Post by M99 Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:19 pm

Luca wrote:I think you're an ass to be honest


http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Iron-Arse_Hans

hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:25 pm

Luca wrote:I think you're an ass to be honest


That gets you an upjuventus from me Proud
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Post by Luca Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:36 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Luca wrote:I think you're an ass to be honest


That gets you an upjuventus from me Proud


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:11 pm

No he hasn't, he's a great player you don't score 20+ two seasons running if you don't.

He's just a poor fit for this England side, that doesn't take away from his quality he's just ill-fitted to this team. He'll still bang them in next season for Spurs.
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Post by Jay29 Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:18 pm

Even though England uses a lot of Spurs players, the systems are very different.

Spurs win the ball higher up and always have players close to Kane. It's easier for Kane to take up his unorthodox positions when defenders are on the back foot and occupied by runners.

For England he's expected to play as a more traditional 9 - as an outlet for the creative players in the team. Unfortunately he doesn't have that sort of movement, and he clearly doesn't have the same relationship with Sterling and Lallana that he does with Lamela and Erikson.

So he'll continue scoring for Spurs, in a system he's more comfortable in. He'll score for England too but won't be anywhere near as prolific.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:26 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote: you don't score 20+ two seasons running if you don't.


Right. OBVIOUSLY.
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Post by Art Morte Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:31 pm

The only English CF who would have played well against Russia and Wales is Andy Carroll, due to his aerial ability. There's been just no space to work with for Kane at the first two games of the Euros. You need either a target man or a false-9 against parked buses like these, not guys like Kane or Vardy who need a bit of room to be effective. Kane will shine again in the Prem.
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Post by CBarca Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:14 am

Kane has played against plenty of deep defenses with Spurs. It comes down to Sterling and Lallana being, well, pretty shite, and the fact that England in general aren't playing to the level they were previously as a whole. People overreacting again. Kane has been fantastic for England up until the Euros.

This thread is disgusting and should be deleted. Hans in more decline than moal and mcagger. When was the last time a two season 20+ goal a season striker and golden boot winner been doubted like this? Kane is the greatest England striker since prime Shearer
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:10 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No he hasn't, he's a great player you don't score 20+ two seasons running if you don't.

He's just a poor fit for this England side, that doesn't take away from his quality he's just ill-fitted to this team. He'll still bang them in next season for Spurs.

Considering 5/11 players are from his team how is he a poor fit?
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Post by CBarca Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:40 am

It's just Goal Legacy knee jerk really
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Post by McLewis Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:46 am

Don't buy it tbh.

I truly thought him a one-hit wonder after that breakout season and then he came back and had another great one at Spurs. 2 average games with England doesn't undo 2 great club seasons.

Just because 4 of his teammates are in this squad doesn't necessarily mean he'll play better. Chemistry is one thing, tactics are another.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:54 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:No he hasn't, he's a great player you don't score 20+ two seasons running if you don't.

He's just a poor fit for this England side, that doesn't take away from his quality he's just ill-fitted to this team. He'll still bang them in next season for Spurs.

Considering 5/11 players are from his team how is he a poor fit?


It's not about that it's how we play.

Spurs press high and support him quickly with numbers, England doesn't do it. There's lots of slow build up and building through the fullbacks with not a great deal of support runs from midfield.

You just have to look at the difference when someone like Vardy and Sturridge is on, this team is so much better with a striker who is mobile, with pace and finishing instincts like the two i mentioned.

As Jay mentioned in the Euro thread, most of Kane's good performances for England have come off the bench he just doesn't fit into how this team is set up, he doesn't get the support he needs and he doesn't make the runs to make the most of what Rooney does whereas Vardy and Sturridge does.

As i said this doesn't make him bad, in fact he's great and he'll continue to score for Spurs but for England? he's best as an impact player from the bench for now.

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Post by RealGunner Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:57 pm

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Post by M99 Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:20 pm

Didn't he just score in PL hmm
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:23 pm

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Post by CBarca Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:43 pm

CSpurs wrote:When was the last time a two season 20+ goal a season striker and golden boot winner been doubted like this? Kane is the greatest England striker since prime Shearer

Just going to just quote myself here
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Post by Art Morte Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:45 pm

I used to think he was legit, but nowadays I actually think he's just lucky / smart. 70 dribbling and ball control, but 90 finishing. He'll get exposed in the end.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:47 pm

I said it 3 years back. He will have a Robbie Keane like career. They are pretty similar.

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Post by CBarca Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:29 pm

RealGunner wrote:I said it 3 years back. He will have a Robbie Keane like career. They are pretty similar.



Robbie Keane hit a career high 23 goals one season. That was his highest ever tally. Harry Kane has 31 and 28 the last two seasons. He's hit 5 goals in 8 apps this season Laughing

They don't even play similarly either Laughing

"Iwobi will have a Lennon like career"
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:36 pm

Iwobi wishes he was as good as main man Lennon tbf.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:32 pm

Kane is nothing but a penalty merchant lmao

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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:16 am

RealGunner wrote:Kane is nothing but a penalty merchant lmao



And yet Arsenal doesn't have a single better player hmm
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