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Post by Art Morte Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:14 am

Well, we face one of the worst sides in the league, at home, on Saturday. Top-4 is practically gone, but we should look to secure a Europa League qualification and improve our performances in general. Sunderland have conceded the most goals in the league, so hopefully well score a few goals this time. Would be a boost to see Coutinho make the bench.
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Post by Curtinho Thu Feb 04, 2016 3:21 pm

Maybe we'll get to see Ibe and Allen out there. Fingers crossed. If we can't put a few past Sunderland we're really dire.

Hope Ojo makes the bench and gets a cameo maybe.
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Post by iftikhar Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:57 pm

Mignolet
Flanagan-Lovren-Sakho-Smith
Henderson-Lucas-Allen
Teixeira-Firmino-Lallana
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Post by Art Morte Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:02 pm

The XI I'd like to see:

Mignolet
Clyne - Caulker - Sakho - Smith
Henderson - Allen
Firmino - Lallana - Ibe
Benteke

I feel I haven't even been as critical of Moreno as most, but after seeing him end so many of our attacks in the Leicester game either with too difficult shots or useless crosses, it really would be time to give someone else a chance.
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Post by Curtinho Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:30 pm

For me:

Mignolet
Clyne - Caulker - Lovren - Smith/Flanagan
Henderson - Allen
Ojo - Lallana - Ibe
Firmino

Can't justify keeping Sakho, Can and Moreno in at this point in their form. Why would you take out Lovren who has been our best defender under Klopp?
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Post by iftikhar Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:39 pm

Curtinho wrote:For me:

Mignolet
Clyne - Caulker - Lovren - Smith/Flanagan
Henderson - Allen
Ojo - Lallana - Ibe
Firmino

Can't justify keeping Sakho, Can and Moreno in at this point in their form. Why would you take out Lovren who has been our best defender under Klopp?
Clyne has played more than other players and can use a rest. Also, fresher Clyne will give us better edge against WHU. Teixeira has played more than Ojo and justified each minutes of those, so I will prefer him.
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Post by Lucifer Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:52 pm

Let's not make this one intersting kloppo, shall we? Let's have a boring 3-0 win and take those damn 3 points and call it day OK?

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Stop making matchday threads u cursed pos

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Post by Curtinho Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:05 pm

I would be fine with Flanagan/Smith as our fullbacks. Like you said Clyne has played more than anyone.

Ojo is just better than Teixeira. I think Teixeira is an ok player but seeing him with the first team it's clear he lacks that bit of execution and pace needed to really take advantage of his abilities.
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Post by iftikhar Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:17 pm

Curtinho wrote:I would be fine with Flanagan/Smith as our fullbacks. Like you said Clyne has played more than anyone.

Ojo is just better than Teixeira. I think Teixeira is an ok player but seeing him with the first team it's clear he lacks that bit of execution and pace needed to really take advantage of his abilities.
I don't think so. But let's agree to disagree on that. However, it would interesting to see us (specially Firmino) play with two wingers.
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Post by Curtinho Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:19 pm

Not sure if you guys have heard about the walk out at 77 minutes, but keep an eye for it. Trying to prevent Ayre/FSG from destroying the spirit of the club and the fans. Liverpool PR is fighting back in full force trying to make the fans look like the bad guys. Disgusting really.
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Post by Art Morte Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:51 pm

Yeah, I read about it, but demand sets the price. Do I think 77 pounds is too much to pay for a game of football? Yes. But if those tickets still get sold, FSG are only doing the sensible thing.
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Post by Art Morte Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:43 pm

Mignolet, Clyne, Lovren, Sakho, Moreno, Henderson, Can, Allen, Lallana, Milner, Firmino

Allen gets his start, but it's a disappointing line up again.
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Post by iftikhar Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:07 pm

Why Klopp isn't on the field?
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Post by Art Morte Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:01 pm

Letting a two goal lead slip away, mmkay. Can't even be mad at this point.
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Post by Curtinho Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:02 pm

Appendicitis I think.

Mignolet left with the fans at the 77th, and our "best" defender gets turned for the game tying goal. What a great collapse.

At least Firmino and Ibe looked great.
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Post by Adit Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:04 pm

Mignolet and Sakho lost the game.

It was 2-0 up against a horrible sunderland.
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Post by iftikhar Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:05 pm

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Post by Curtinho Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:15 pm

I can only imagine what the reaction would be like if it had been Lovren there instead of Sakho.
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Post by Helmer Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:10 pm

I have the same reaction as Ifti rofl ! We are abs horrendous in the league, now I just hope we do better in cup competitions

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Post by Curtinho Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:45 am

Mignolet has now cost Liverpool an approximate 15 points this season. [Squawka]
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Post by McAgger Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:27 am

Mignolet HAS to be sold in the summer. I refuse to believe he'll be here next season.
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Post by Helmer Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:47 am

I give up on Mignolet really, i dont give a f*** whether he improves in the next season, we need to sell him. I remember I was the only one who was sceptical when we signed him and rightly so I had doubts about his mentality (more than his shot stopping ability). I know RA would still blame Rodgers, system, signings and everything else but Mignolet for his mistakes Laughing

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Post by Art Morte Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:40 pm

I suppose I'm the only one who thinks it wasn't an absolute howler from Mignolet, but a good free-kick that he nearly saved but not quite hmm
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Post by Curtinho Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:19 pm

Yes, you're the only one.

I still have no idea how there are still people defending Mignolet and blaming everyone around him. It's so painfully obvious how much he has cost this team.
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Post by Red Alert Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:55 am

Art Morte wrote:I suppose I'm the only one who thinks it wasn't an absolute howler from Mignolet, but a good free-kick that he nearly saved but not quite hmm


Wouldn't say it was a howler myself, but a better keeper should be saving that.

Moreno is more to blame imo, what a stupid foul to give away. Regardless, I gave up this season the moment when we let Rodgers start the 15/16 season. Hopefully Klopp can get us some silverware / get half these scrubs a little bit of a winning mentality before he can actually have a pre-season / proper training with the squad. (I don't think he's even had time to implement his style in training because of our schedule. Laughing )

Helmer wrote: I know RA would still blame Rodgers, system, signings and everything else but Mignolet for his mistakes Laughing


Oh do *bleep* off.

Saying Mignolet shouldn't be a scapegoat does not mean Mignolet is innocent. With that said, you can see WHY he's not performing if you want to put logic / context into it.

The defence in front of him is shit.
We don't have a goalkeeping coach.
We didn't "train" our defence. (Rodgers infamous "defending is easy" speech.)
We don't know how even to set up with set pieces today. (Again, I feel we'll be better at this next season when we actually, as a squad, and you know, actually have a squad with a few quality players get a proper pre-season in.)

But yeah, continue to lead your Klopp bad / Rodgers good / RA has no idea what he's on about speech you little munchkin, you.
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