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Post by sportsczy Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:12 pm

There you go about Benzema again... ffs, we just lost a clasico 4-0. Who gives a crap about Benzema. It's about the team.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:13 pm

Adit wrote:We don't need 3 strikers. We have a precious set of midfielders. If we can include all our midfielders into the line up the better , that's how good they are. The BBC is the root problem in our squad.

If only. Benitez is probably going to be sacked in a year. Why can't he stop being a coward and bench the BBC and field our midfielders instead of playing everybody out of position to accommodate BBC? Let them warm the bench with Danilo and get a free footballing lesson from their teammates.

If he really wants to regain my respect, he should do this.
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Post by chad4401 Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:16 pm

sportsczy wrote:There you go about Benzema again...  ffs, we just lost a clasico 4-0.  Who gives a crap about Benzema.  It's about the team.


kindly buzz off sports no one give a flying bleep about your opinion bruh, your usually wrong as hell, then you disappear and i can reply to any post i wish, who do you think you are?
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Post by rwo power Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:15 am

Pedram wrote:We need a manager who doesn't bow down to pressure, even to the president, someone like Klopp. we had a choice between him and Benitez in summer, we picked the wrong guy again.
You really sure? I doubt that Kloppo would have chosen Real as he doesn't appear like a coach who wants to have so much politics in it which he constantly has to fight.

Klopp always came over as a guy who prefers a club where he has a somewhat familiar atmosphere and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't like to coach divas as he requires the players to do exactly what he says (and that is work hard and be proper team players and both hunt and defend in packs).
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:00 pm

chad4401 wrote:
sportsczy wrote:There you go about Benzema again...  ffs, we just lost a clasico 4-0.  Who gives a crap about Benzema.  It's about the team.


kindly buzz off sports no one give a flying bleep about your opinion bruh, your usually wrong as hell, then you disappear and i can reply to any post i wish, who do you think you are?


Hyprocracy!!!!!!   rofl
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Post by chad4401 Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:30 pm

bill your the same if not worse, leeching off everyone opinions, compiling it all into essays and always need to be corrected after each post Laughing.

morata is garbage nobody but you wants him, and asensio is gonna be another isco.

lastly liars like yourselves can never dare to call me an hypocrite, you lot have no problem lying about players performance for months at a time like flopsco rofl.

come on tell me i'm lying Proud.
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Post by salmano9 Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:52 pm

The thread title attracted my attention tbh. But the content EVEN MORE... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Laughing Laughing

This thread topic is insane lol. I don't think that this is the right way to think when rebuilding RM, as you got the best players between your hands and they just need some adjustments and a little bit of patience... Real Madrid's problem IMO is that Flo's patience is absurd, and ridiculous. Sack Ancelloti after 1 year of winning the Champions League? C'mon... He had pretty much the same team last year, but you can't always win. Barca is the reason RM didn't win. They simply were the best last year. It wasn't Ancelloti's problem. BUT, at least, he still has the base from the year before. Maybe a bit of adjustments and they could win the league at least. Why change the the coach every year or 2?
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Post by FalcaoPunch Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:54 pm

Isco did actually play well for months and deserved the hype. I'm usually very critical of Isco and his tendency to over dribble, fancy flicks, and never play the final ball but at this time it wasn't the case.

On the same note regarding how you felt people treated Isco, your Illaramendi crush/overhyping/"gets no chance" who has now been long and forgotten thanks to Casemiro who we argued was better since that monumental choke of a performance that Illara had against BVB.

Sports, Bill, Nick, and also you always make good points but cmon chill with the emojis and name calling because it gets no one anywhere... and I like reading the back and forth just not when it's legit arguing.

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Post by chad4401 Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:10 pm

firstly isco never played well as an AM and soon as his goals stopped, he instantly looked average otherwise that a fact, even this season he still hasn't stepped up, and 9/10 poster would call him motm just because of hype and to save face.

on illarra doesn't change the fact he was undefeated for 10 games he started, and some posters rather lose with isco at cm cause of his shitty dribbles.

on casemiro i backed as much as i back illarra, a lot of posters on here wanted to sell him to make weight for pogba, and i was the only one or one of few posters who said that was nonsense from the start.

lastly punch the real issue i have a prob with, is the blatant agenda on this forum, people ain't even trying to hide it, if they don't rate benz who cares, but don't try to act like he is the main reason why the team doesn't win, that clearly BS.

@salman that madrid fans logic when we win we are the best and when we lose sell everybody, doesn't matter if the players they want are a clear downgrades Laughing.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:54 pm

I called your statement to Sports "no one give a flying bleep about your opinion bruh" hypocrisy!! Who are you to speak on behalf of this forum, Your fanboyism of Benz is the biggest joke on this forum as well as your constant claims that no one on this forum knows futbol yet somehow out of hundreds of posters only you do!!!
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Post by Winter is Coming Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:30 pm

You guys have a team that can obviously compete with us and Bayern, more so Bayern because we still rely on our front 3 more often then not, but for some reason I just didn't see any recent systems complimenting all the players, or at least them being given proper roles were they can thrive in.
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Post by salmano9 Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:10 pm

chad4401 wrote:firstly isco never played well as an AM and soon as his goals stopped, he instantly looked average otherwise that a fact, even this season he still hasn't stepped up, and 9/10 poster would call him motm just because of hype and to save face.

on illarra doesn't change the fact he was undefeated for 10 games he started, and some posters rather lose with isco at cm cause of his shitty dribbles.

on casemiro i backed as much as i back illarra, a lot of posters on here wanted to sell him to make weight for pogba, and i was the only one or one of few posters who said that was nonsense from the start.

lastly punch the real issue i have a prob with, is the blatant agenda on this forum, people ain't even trying to hide it, if they don't rate benz who cares, but don't try to act like he is the main reason why the team doesn't win, that clearly BS.

@salman that madrid fans logic when we win we are the best and when we lose sell everybody, doesn't matter if the players they want are a clear downgrades Laughing.
I can see with the sale of Ozil and Di Maria lol... Loved that pair.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:21 pm

Yeah Bill and I support (to a fault) players that are from our respective countries...  but when the performances just aren't there, we admit that our guy is overrated.

I'm not saying Benz is a bad player...  he's a very good player.  CFs like that don't grow on trees.  BUT, to say that he's an elite goalscorer that you can build your attack around is just not something i can support anymore.  He had his chance and has failed under 2 different coaches at NT who handed him the keys... and he's been meh.  Good coaches too. So why would it be different at Madrid? Given the data, why should Madrid take such a risk?

My point is that, if Ronaldo leaves, you MUST have an alpha goalscorer.  If you can get one who players wide, great... Benz can stay.   If not, then you must bring such a guy to play CF.
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Post by chad4401 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:16 pm

futbol_bill wrote: I called your statement to Sports "no one give a flying bleep about your opinion bruh" hypocrisy!!  Who are you to speak on behalf of this forum, Your fanboyism of Benz is the biggest joke on this forum as well as your constant claims that no one on this forum knows futbol yet somehow out of hundreds of posters only you do!!!


blah blah blah can't argue your points saying irrelevant things, and sports has made plenty of bold predictions/statement and had to take breaks from the forum a lot, im not saying anything new nice try though.

the only joke on this forum is sheep flip flop trying to act like they know things, especially you who thought after 1 game ramos a great CM remember that? or after one season morata is already better than benzema, your reasoning is weak bruh.

i could careless what your lot think of me, the amount times you guys clowned yourselves alone this season, with the cr9/jese hype rofl and my personal favorite isco is motm Proud.


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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:16 pm

sportsczy wrote:
My point is that, if Ronaldo leaves, you MUST have an alpha goalscorer.


Meh. What is an 'alpha goalscorer' really. Never understood this nonsense. What's more who cares where the goals come from if you play well as a team and create stuff.
You don't need one player to score 40 goals. Benzema can score enough goals, Bale can score goals, James can score goals.
You'd be just fine without Ronaldo.
It doesn't matter whether you win 2:0 or 5:0 vs Eibar. It matters whether you function as a team in tough games.

I don't think we have an 'alpha goalscorer' for example, and we're doing just fine.
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Post by chad4401 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:22 pm

hans alpha goalscorer is just another new category of bs, these jokers keep inventing to fuel their baseless arguments, yet when benzema was scoring earlier this season his workrate was the real problem.


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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:26 pm

Meaning someone who is a pure goalscorer and does everything from min 1-90 to score...  even Benz himself says he's not really a goalscorer.  You can't have all the guys looking to make plays for others all the time.  Sure, make the obvious play if it's there...  but if not, look to score.  

Assuming you have Modric, James and Isco on the pitch together... you don't need 2 other guys that are looking to playmake.  You want 2 guys that are making scoring runs and are specialists at it.  Bale is one but he's not a central striker.  You need another.

Look at Bayern... Lewandowski can playmake and does if it's the obvious or needed option.  But that's secondary:  Everything he does is dedicated to scoring primarily.  Mueller is a scorer too but he goes about it differently.  

Barca....  no need to describe.

PSG...  Ibra and Cavani. Problem here is that they both want to be primaries and either suck or just won't accept taking a secondary role.

Madrid has Ronaldo as the primary and Benz as the secondary scorers.  My only point is that Benz is a great secondary goalscorer.  He needs a primary goalscorer to play his game....  He's never going to be the type of guy who plays selfishly enough to be a primary goalscorer.  It's just not his mentality.
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Post by chad4401 Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:31 pm

sigh wasn't cr not scoring at the start of the season,being crap and benzema was scoring game after game? did this not happened? rofl

benzema is more likely to score when cr doesn't play Laughing.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:50 pm

Doing it for a month every season (or a game or two every year with NT) doesn't make you one... the data is undeniable. And Benz even states it REPEATEDLY in interviews. I believe him Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:01 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxCra7J5R7c

Interview this summer (and a good one)... at the 8:15 mark, he's asked:

Sonny Anderson: Do you consider yourself a 9, 9.5 or even 10?

Benz: I consider myself a striker. It just depends what you need me to do and the opponent. I'll do anything that's needed.

I have to admit I really admire this about him... he puts himself at the service of the team. HOWEVER, that's also his downfall. You have other guys on the team that take advantage of this personality because they have much more selfish intentions. To me, a center forward needs to have that selfish streak where he stubbornly forces his teammates and the manager to play him in scoring positions.... i'm not saying he should take it anywhere to the extreme that Ronaldo does. But he should look at Suarez, Lewandowski and Ibrahimovic. These 3 do a lot to help their team. But they also make it very very clear that they expect to get the balls when the play is in the scoring zone.

I've waited 6 YEARS for Benz to develop this selfish streak and express it.... at some point, you just have to accept that he doesn't want that role and/or just doesn't view himself as that kind of player.
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Post by chad4401 Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:01 am

yeah right what I believe is, if your getting 1-2 shots a game your not scoring 40 goals a season end of story.

why doesn't shots per game count when its comes to benzema? not one of the cf you guys wank about can score 40 on 1-2 shots none.

what hap said is true teamwork>alpha scorer, and the only solutions you guys can come up with is more dribblers, when poor passing and organization is the clear reasons why we struggle a lot... the reasoning sometimes.
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Post by chad4401 Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:08 am

firstly who cares about interviews? im more focused on what happening on the pitch and what I see is a player making a lots of runs, is usually in good goal scoring positions and open, then watches the ball go to cr to kick away.

what the hell is he gonna say in a interview? cr is a pos that sucks at shooting or i don't need to score?

before he was a real madrid player, no one doubted him and im sure he said he wants to be the best, and after playing with ego, he says differently but since it fits your argument its legit :facepalm:

lastly NT is NT and it means nothing to club football, i bet if benzema was killing it with france, you guys would just discredit it like your doing with the beginning of this season, again the reasoning is weak.
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Post by StrugaRock Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:38 am

Would you guys quit it already with this Benzema vs The World sh1t already? It is feking annoying. Can a thread in this freking section not turn up to a freking Beznema thread? Really you've managed to ruin an entire section with all this Benzema cr@p, just move on, not funny anymore, not interested in hearing your bullcr@p on whenever Benzema is a top of flop, stop it already ffs!!

Youve managed to ruin a section that I clearly [In the past] visit, lurk, write, discuss all the fun and interesting topics, not your freking daily dose of average Benzema sh1tload...
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Post by chad4401 Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:06 am

you know what your right strugarock, these arguments are clearly ain't even really about benz performances anymore and hasn't been for long time, its about butthurt fanboys who indeed can't move on cause a certain player got kicked out of the team.
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Post by titosantill Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:13 am

SONNY ANDERSON!!!!! ah another name from the nineties....fantastic, fantastic striker. falls into the category of fantastic strikers people forget about...makaay, elber, bebeto, pauleta, salas just to name a few...pardon the digression
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Post by FalcaoPunch Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:17 am

A lot of what should happen...won't.
We can all agree on that.


BBC will remain untouched and by that I mean only Benzema will be sacrificed while Ronaldo and Bale play 90 minutes every game.

Our midfield will reintroduce Casemiro and Isco will be sacrificed which will lead to him leaving due to this situation. James and Benitez will remain shaky I don't feel like everything is okay with the two since the beginning of the season.

Danilo will probably still start lol while Carvajal contemplates how the *bleep* he isn't starting.

In other words we should be alright :facepalm:
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