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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:06 pm

He has 2 with todays goal if i am not mistaken. Thats terrible. We criticise Jovic for not scoring but he has as many goals in alot less minutes Laughing

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Post by sportsczy Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:25 pm

Stop trolling my thread. If you have something good to say about Benzema, take it somewhere else...
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Post by Doc Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:17 pm

Just play Jovic and/or Mariano and hope for the best at this point.
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:30 pm

Strange isn't it how the Benz supporter (including his double account) has disappeared again now that the old Benz has resurfaced!
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Post by Doc Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:39 pm

Strange indeed. A striker that hasn't score for 2 and a half months, that is really not good at all.
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Post by Mamad Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:47 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Strange isn't it how the Benz supporter (including his double account) has disappeared again now that the old Benz has resurfaced!


Old Benz is still better than Jovic, Mariano and Giroud combined.
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Post by Doc Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:49 pm

Sure but Mariano, Giroud and Jovic has scored during the 2 and a half months Benz hasn't. Being a better footballer (which he is btw) is inconsequential as we need a striker than can score for a consistent amount of time and not tune out after November (as he has done for sometime).
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Post by Mamad Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:04 pm

we are shite in final third. because we have no real wingers and the one who can create space for himself can't send a good final pass. we have no one who can send the final killer pass like De Bruyne.

we put a "finisher" type of striker out there and he will hang around there only touching the ball 2 times a game lol.

buy good wingers and a good AM then we can discuss replacing Benzema with better goalscorers.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:18 pm

Benzema has missed a lot of chances... and I mean a lot. Add to that, his aggressiveness in the box has disappeared.

No doubt he carried our attack for all of CY 2019. But this is "money time" as they say... you can't disappear during the period that trophies are won.

I admit that his shiteness has been emphasized given our wings are complete shite. But that still doesn't mean Benzema hasn't been utter shite. Too much shite going on at the forward position generally.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:29 pm

I'm sorry but your theory can be easily debunked, Mamad.

Benzema in the first half of the season was scoring regularly despite the fact that he was being flanked by different wingers. He scored with Hazard. He scored with Vini. He even scored with Lucas.

He did all that because he was quite clinical with his chances. Now? The team is still creating lots and lots of chances, but Benzema is not converting any of them.

Benzema is a great talent, but he's very inconsistent. He has always been inconsistent and he's also not a reliable goalscorer. Sometimes he gives you a great performance, but he always keeps you on the edge of your seat worrying because you never know when his form is gonna dip. Like now.

This is why the club should seriously think about replacing him or at least keeping him while bringing a more reliable goalscorer.

Just re-watch the Levante game and see if we had lethal goalscorer, how many goals we would've mauled Levante with based on the same opportunities that Benzema got.
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Post by Doc Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:30 pm

I would have agreed with Mamad wrote but as Sports, Benz was been given service, he has been having loads of chances. HE has been missing them. This isn't a case of we are not creating, we do but our only source for goals cannot maintain form past November. He just can't for reasons I do not know.

Yeah, replacing Benzema as our main source of goals should be done since last season. Should have been done this season and should be done after this season.
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Post by Mamad Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:49 pm

I don't think Benzema has had that many clear chances missed to be honest.

The Demon of Carthage wrote:I'm sorry but your theory can be easily debunked, Mamad.

Benzema in the first half of the season was scoring regularly despite the fact that he was being flanked by different wingers. He scored with Hazard. He scored with Vini. He even scored with Lucas.

He did all that because he was quite clinical with his chances. Now? The team is still creating lots and lots of chances, but Benzema is not converting any of them.

Benzema is a great talent, but he's very inconsistent. He has always been inconsistent and he's also not a reliable goalscorer. Sometimes he gives you a great performance, but he always keeps you on the edge of your seat worrying because you never know when his form is gonna dip. Like now.

This is why the club should seriously think about replacing him or at least keeping him while bringing a more reliable goalscorer.

Just re-watch the Levante game and see if we had lethal goalscorer, how many goals we would've mauled Levante with based on the same opportunities that Benzema got.


Half the goals he scored he was the one starting the move by dropping back. now that he is out of form our overall play is worse and there is not much chances created. it's all Vinicius at the moment and we know how he ends them.

All i'm saying is just by replacing Benzema we don't get more goals. we have to do more changes for it to work.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:48 pm

What a useless sack of shit
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:07 pm

This is precisely why I'm practically begging the club to bring someone reliable next summer.

I know Benzema is not going anywhere with Zidane and Florentino in charge. That's fine. But at least bring someone who can bail us out and save us the embarrassment like we did tonight.

It's really not too much to ask.
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Post by Unique Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:09 pm

mans only a few goals behind messi ffs.
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Post by Doc Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:11 pm

All his goals came between August to December. We are in March and he has yet to score. Also, he is our main goal scorer. Imagine if Mane and Salah not scoring for close to 3 months.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:12 pm

Unique wrote:mans only a few goals behind messi ffs.

That's because he played really well in the first half of the season. In 2020, he has been really bad.
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Post by Nivash Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:41 am

If not sold, he should really just accept that he's really an AM/SS. Ideally, if he plays, it should be a 2 striker formation so that he can create moves for someone who actually likes scoring

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:51 am

No idea why Real Madrid don't just put faith in their new 60m € striker Luca Jovic.
I mean, we're talking about a guy here who once scored 17 goals in a whole season for Eintracht Frankurt, no brainer, really.
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Post by futbol_bill Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:04 pm

Agreed Hans, we have no idea.
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Post by Mamad Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:08 pm

I actually agree that we should move on from Benzema but i don't know why any striker we sign underperforms.

sportsczy wrote:What a useless sack of shit


Our best player for last 20 month is a sack of shit. i wonder what are others lol.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:24 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:No idea why Real Madrid don't just put faith in their new 60m € striker Luca Jovic.
I mean, we're talking about a guy here who once scored 17 goals in a whole season for Eintracht Frankurt, no brainer, really.

Same reason his NT has put him aside... the guy is, allegedly, an absolute head case.  ZZ, like Deschamps in fact, is a Seria A trained manager.... and it's all about group solidarity, defending and team dynamics.  Anyone, regardless of cache or talent, that compromises the team dynamic gets set aside.  It's not that complicated.  Yet some players just don't seem to get it and want to try their own thing.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:26 pm

Mamad wrote:I actually agree that we should move on from Benzema but i don't know why any striker we sign underperforms.

sportsczy wrote:What a useless sack of shit


Our best player for last 20 month is a sack of shit. i wonder what are others lol.

There's much more than just one sack of shit on this team currently... Benz just happens to be one of them. Since he's the CF, he is very impactful.
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Post by titosantill Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:57 pm

Mamad wrote:I actually agree that we should move on from Benzema but i don't know why any striker we sign underperforms.
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there are strikers and there are STRIKERS. how many Strikers, top level ones, have we actually signed? in the last 5 or 6 years, we've had chicharito, morata, mayoral, mariano, jovic. None of those individuals is exactly what you would call a world beater. not to mentionlook at the minutes ratio of most of them and its laughable. even jovic, look up my first post on the jovic thread, he wasn't brought here to compete, he was brought to warm the bench in case we need him (kind of weird considering the moneys spent). fact is, they haven't performed because madrid's policy is to sign strikers who are back ups and can warm the bench and not disruptors who are good enough to start. its really simple


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Post by Adit Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:59 pm

Nivash wrote:If not sold, he should really just accept that he's really an AM/SS. Ideally, if he plays, it should be a 2 striker formation so that he can create moves for someone who actually likes scoring


He played AM in the last 20 minutes, came deep and assisted Betis.

He has no idea how to play far away from the goal. He is not an AM.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:05 pm

It's not that he doesn't know how to play AM....  he does.  We got the PK because be played AM and sent that pass to launch Vini.

The issue with him dezoning are twofold:
-  Our wingers can't score
-  His instincts are to take risks with his passes.  That's what strikers do.  You have to play safer in the middle of the part
-  He's a CF.  If you need a AM, play a AM ffs.  We have James.  Just play the dude. Lucas shouldn't be on the pitch.
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