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Post by Donuts Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:22 pm

past season?
we won the champions league with him in goal are you really going to believe he didn't have a single good save?
how about the fact he also had save of the year lol.
the kneejerk on him is so real

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Post by Lucifer Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:24 pm

Guys
Best player
Worst player

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Post by Donuts Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:26 pm

best player is between messi and bartra.
worst player is also hard not too many fukups but I guess MaTS stands out the most? neymar didn't play so great either.


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Post by windkick Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:26 pm

Pirloisjesus wrote:Is Messi missing penalties bcoz of psychological barrier or what he is missing very frequently nowadays Sad


2 already this season. We should seriously consider handing the PK duties to Neymar or Suarez, though I know Messi would likely throw a fit and start Man City or PSG on Instagram
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Post by Lucifer Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:26 pm

Best messi
Worst mats

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Post by Myesyats Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:39 pm

danyjr wrote:Haven't seen a single classy save from Ter Stegen in the past season that would make me even consider him to be world class.

Not impressed by Neymar. Lazy with the passing, too much flirting on the ball, inaccurate passes, poor finishing. Only an insane person would consider him better than Hazard.

He won save of the season in Champions Leauge lol

Also Neymar is out of form. Started the season slowly because of an injury. Miles better than Hazard in every aspect of the game.
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Post by Myesyats Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:42 pm

Messi the standout player again obviously but everyone played quite well

What a shame that MAtS mistake. He was having a decent game. But tbh someone should have had cleared that out
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Post by Lucifer Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:45 pm

How can guy weave web around 50 players and finish accurately yet misses penalties is beyond me

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Post by Harmonica Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:20 pm

Have to give it Enrique (and players) though. Rotation was needed, and this was a great rotation.
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Post by Donuts Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:32 pm

great rotation and good to see a change in the tactics
using 4 players upfront overloaded levante they never knew who to mark

bartra really stepping up had a great game he is good enough for us in these small games hope he shows this level in big games.
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Post by danyjr Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:44 pm

Donuts wrote:past season?
we won the champions league with him in goal are you really going to believe he didn't have a single good save?
how about the fact he also had save of the year lol.
the kneejerk on him is so real

Winning Champions League with him in goal doesn't mean anything mate. He didn't really have many crucial saves to make compared to say Buffon. Also he is very shaky on set pieces and long balls and his communication with the defenders has been consistently poor.
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Post by danyjr Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:45 pm

linetty wrote:Also Neymar is out of form. Started the season slowly because of an injury. Miles better than Hazard in every aspect of the game.

Cool story bro Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:48 pm

Bayern would have knocked Barca out if it wasn't for Ter Stegen's saves in the 2nd leg when they stopped playing because they thought it was over.

Including the save of the year, the idea he didn't make any crucial saves is just as much bollocks as when people said the same about Valdes.

If he was shit as people say he is Barca wouldn't have won the CL, it's that simple.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:55 pm

Funny how short memories are.

Neymar was one of the best performers in the CL last year and stepped up in every big game.

Meanwhile Hazard ghosted against PSG and has still yet to do anything in the CL, the only thing he's better than Neymar at is passing and he doesn't even show that very often.

Not surprising that Danyjr is saying silly things though :coffee: hmm
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Post by danyjr Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:02 pm

Great, let's blame Chelsea's problems on Hazard Neutral

Haters gonna hate :coffee:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:04 pm

Explain how he does nothing for Belgium then?

He's never showed up when it matters in his career and besides even if you just compare their skillsets and ignore production and performances Neymar wins easily.



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Post by danyjr Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:08 pm

Kompany does nothing for Belgium.
De Bruyne does nothing for Belgium.
Fellaini does nothing for Belgium.
Witsel does nothing for Belgium.
Lukaku does nothing for Belgium.
Benteke does nothing for Belgium.
Vermaelen does nothing for Belgium.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:12 pm

De Bruyne does nothing for Belgium Laughing

He's regularly their best player, also most of the others perform as well. Ignoring that it's not the point though.

Point is it's not Chelsea's fault that when it matters either CL or major international tournaments he doesn't show up.... Neymar always has done more so than anyone else.

But even when you ignore all that Neymar still wins, this is almost as funny as when some in the general section tried to convince me Hazard is better than Robben and Suarez.
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Post by danyjr Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:25 pm

I don't agree. You obviously have unrealistic expectations from Hazard while you don't expect the same from a Chelsea reject like De Bruyne.

Let us not get over ourselves as Robben and Suárez are champions while Neymar and Hazard are players in the making.

On Neymar, he is an immature kid. He is not industrious. He wastes opportunities. He slows the play down by flirting with the ball too much. He missed a one-on-one every match last year. He lacks intelligence in understanding the game, playing to the pace of the team etc. In Brazil, he sets the pace, he is the focal point and the player who is free to do whatever he wants. At Barcelona however he has to play second to Messi. When I watch Hazard, he plays for the team. He has the intelligence and vision that Neymar lacks. I'd even go on to say he is more difficult to disposes than Neymar, because he is stockier with a lower centre of gravity. It is harder against those EPL defenders than it is in La Liga. Above all, Hazard is just more serious while at times you see Neymar and think he is just there to have fun. This is common amongst Brazilians. He never digs in, never puts 110% and never really goes for it like Hazard does.
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Post by Bankz Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:14 am

That akward moment when nobody even knows how to reply danyjr post.. Keep fighting the good fight mate
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Post by eelir Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:38 am

danyjr at it again. I haven't really watched Hazard, so i cant comment on that, but dany has some good critique on Neymar. Almost all of those points can be fixed easily with a bit time (he is young mate).

But saying Ter Stegen did not perform any good save last season is bollocks. Some of the people mentioned at least couple of WC saves, so just admit it, you got carried away.
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Post by Lucifer Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:55 am

Comparing hazard with neymar what are u high on. Hazard is waaaaaaay better than that pos. What has neymar done to make u compare to next Ronaldo anyway.so What if he scored in cl semis and final. So What he broke the monopoly of Leo and Ronaldo and was top goal scorer. So what he stepped up 'every' big game Barca played and was pivotal in treble. Sick people

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Post by Bankz Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:40 am

So what if he scored 40 goals last season? So what if he scored 22 goals more than hazard? So what if he scored 22 goals against all big teams last season (including bayern 3, atletico 3, real madrid 1, juventus 1, psg 5 sevilla 2, bilbao 4, villareal 3)? So what if he was spanish cup top scorer, cl top scorer, la liga 3rd top scorer? So what if he scored in 8 consecutive games, the longest in barca history? So what if he scored in 5 consecutive cl games, the longest in cl history? So what he won the treble? So what he had the third highest rating behind messi and cr7? So what neymar has 47 goals & 27 assist in 67 games for brazil (including goating against fodders like italy, spain, uruguay, france, argentina, portugal) So what neymar has performed in every intl tournament, against every big team? So what if neymar is still making the scrub brazil relevant?, as seeing without him in the world cup, copa america, and with him in the confederations cup. Neymar, such a pos!!!
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Post by Bankz Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:10 am

So what if neymar was mvp in the confederations cup? So what if neymar has 11 goals & 5 assists in 16 competitive games? So what if hazard is a mental midget? So what if hazard is a ghost in big games? So what if hazard hasnt ever performed on any stage in his life including the Cl, world cup, euro, probably having 0 goals or an assist till date? So wht if hazard has 8 goals (4 penalty) for belgium in nearly 70 games with them havin the best belgian team in a long while? So what if hazard has never scored more than 18 goals in any season in his life, while still having a half of those as penalties? So what if hazard is an international flop? So what if hazard was signed as a make shift for chelsea after neymar ditched them? So what if hazard is a penalty specialist? So what if neymar is just clearly on a whole different level to hazard? And so what neymar is just simply better even if u remove all his achievements altogether? Do u guys really just enjoy doing this to hazard? Anyway, Let me stop here for now.
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Post by free_cat Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:33 am

futbol wrote: (Bartra) is one of the worst players that ever came out of the Barca academy


I love it when time vindicates me so rapidly. Just one week and we can clearly see that Bartra is no way one of the worst players that ever came ou of our academy. Great performance against Llevant. I know it's just Llevant, but he just needs confidence, minutes and guidance to be more calm, to deliver great performances against everyone.

He even was the NMMVP of the match.
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Post by free_cat Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:35 am

Btw, it's bothering that Messi missess so many penalties... can he just go back to the way he kicked them before? He used to approach the ball slowly watching the GK and then decide... now he rushes to the ball having decided beforehand where to shoot it, and he misses more than before.
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