Re: What does Barcelona's treble say about Luis Enrique as a manager?

by Doc Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:21 pm

I really don't like getting involve in Farca affairs since Mehdrid needs me but Lucho really just got himself a treble. Mourinho was considered Herrera's heir from a treble, Pep "changed the way football would be played" after his treble, Heynches was loved by Viva after his treble. Lucho gets a "you did well".

If what you say Futbol has any truth into it (because we really can't say for certain unless your GL name happens to be Gil or Sports) then people really are, in fact, full of sh1t really.

by Lucifer Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:44 pm

I think this barca is more dangerous and multifaceted than peps. This barca can win ulgly matches courtesy Suarez and counterattacking is just op

by RealGunner Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:37 pm

Knew he was a fraud

by Mr Nick09 Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:38 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Nothing whatsoever, he was about as important as Zidane winning la decima on the bench with carlo

i got dis

by Blue Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:52 pm

So he gets no credit for the team success, but at fault for the team losses?

I guess that is fair.

by Kebab Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:17 pm

He should get credit for creating MSN trio and rotating players in the beginning of the last season. He rotated Neymar and Suarez too. This season he couldnt do it, as Neymar and Suarez became bigger than him. at the end they got fatigued in the wrong time and lost the CL

But i think doing a little good thing in a big team is enough to be a legend. Good team is a good team, they need only a little correction to win everything. I always thought about big team coaches in this way

by Valkyrja Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:24 pm

How the hell did he create MSN ? First of all, Suarez was a board transfer. Secondly, he hadn't even known how to use the MSN trio prior to Coachessi taking charge of the team in January 2015

by Kebab Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:28 pm

I'm trying to be nice with him, but yeah even MSN created by MSN itself. So lets give him credit for his rotating policy

by Valkyrja Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:28 pm

nazimali12 wrote:I'm trying to be nice with him, but yeah even MSN created by MSN itself. So lets give him credit for his rotating policy

His rotating policy led to MSN being dead tired at this point of the season

by Kebab Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:32 pm

Valkyrja wrote:
nazimali12 wrote:I'm trying to be nice with him, but yeah even MSN created by MSN itself. So lets give him credit for his rotating policy

His rotating policy led to MSN being dead tired at this point of the season

nazimali12 wrote:
He should get credit for creating MSN trio and rotating players in the beginning of the last season. He rotated Neymar and Suarez too. This season he couldnt do it, as Neymar and Suarez became bigger than him. at the end they got fatigued in the wrong time and lost the CL

But i think doing a little good thing in a big team is enough to be a legend. Good team is a good team, they need only a little correction to win everything. I always thought about big team coaches in this way

by Donuts Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:41 pm

who would he rotate them with? lol munir is the only depth we have, only thing enrique should of done differently is substitute him in but no way does any logical manager bench out one of msn for munir in a classico / quarter finals champions league or against valencia.

pedro maybe but not for munir lol

by Winter is Coming Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:47 pm

That's partly Enrique fault what do we expect Munir/Sandro etc to come off the bench and save us? Especially when their play 1-2 times every 10 games and that's usually coming off the bench?

by Kebab Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:24 pm

Dont need munir in big games. need neymar and suarez fresh in big games. he can play munir and sandro in useless 6-0 games. Or sub neymar and suarez after 60th minute when the game is won. he did it last season.this season its impossible

by Donuts Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:25 pm

thing is we haven't had easy games since the international break.
only natural we'll be very fatigue, i'll say its more about bad luck (schedule) and out of form than anything.

by Kebab Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:37 pm

bad luck played role but he should have planned this hard schedule.they flopped in the first game after intrl break.it means they were already fatigued long before.He should have rested them before intrl break when games are won.maybe he tried but not happened

by Cruijf Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:30 am

Selling Pedro was an idiotic decision especially with the transfer ban. If that was LE's call he deserves the blame, if it was the board's then they do.

Part of it is the club world cup curse though, you can't expect any team to play 100% when you have a 9 month season with no breaks, least of all Barca who have precisely 12 players worthy of starting (2 of them goalies).

by Donuts Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:17 am

I believe pedro asked to leave, wanting more minutes
enrique in the summer said he wouldn't of liked to sell anyone only the players that didn't want to be there.

by Socur Toxanarosa Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:10 am

Donuts wrote:I believe pedro asked to leave, wanting more minutes
enrique in the summer said he wouldn't of liked to sell anyone only the players that didn't want to be there.

Shouldn't have sold anyway Sad

by Nivash Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:59 am

Donuts wrote:I believe pedro asked to leave, wanting more minutes
enrique in the summer said he wouldn't of liked to sell anyone only the players that didn't want to be there.

Surely the solution is to sell once the transfer ban is over. Selling a capable squad player without a suitable replacement or the opportunity to replace them is plain foolish.

by Donuts Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:26 pm

The reason he was sold was because he didn't want to be there (accoring to enrique)
the plan was to replace him with munir and sandro and have them step up, with the minutes they got but they failed.

was a risk but honestly not too much of a big one.. how much better is pedro compared to the youngsters.. surely not by a longshot. and we have to encourage youngsters through the ranks.

keeping pedro would of been a mistake, what would he have done vs valencia / atletico / real madrid? pass back and run into the corner?

let alone we profited from pedro with a one time deal the ~~kid~~29 year old is worth no more than 10m based on his latest form.

by Winter is Coming Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:35 pm

^I think the point is that he could've been used to rest one of MSN.

by Donuts Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:43 pm

i interpreted that his point was that it was foolish to sell pedro, i'm showing my opinion on why it made sense at the time, and probably wasn't a mistake.

by Nivash Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:16 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:^I think the point is that he could've been used to rest one of MSN.

Donuts wrote:i interpreted that his point was that it was foolish to sell pedro, i'm showing my opinion on why it made sense at the time, and probably wasn't a mistake.

It was foolish because he could have been used to rotate one of MSN. Sure you could have one of the kids step up, but that's a gamble that should be taken when there's an opportunity to do something about it if they don't. Pedro may not be a world beater, but he's good enough as a top class squad player. Regardless of his performances at Chelsea, he was a fit at Barca. Even if he didn't want to be there, the manager needs to do what's best for the team, which, in this case, was to ensure that he had a squad big enough to compete on all fronts.