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Post by Kaladin Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:22 pm

GDM: ES WILL UNDERGO MEDICALS ON SUNDAY, DEAL ACCEPTED

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Post by Cruijf Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:24 pm

:facepalm:

Absolutely gutted. So much for turning us into a top team :facepalm:
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Post by Casciavit Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:26 pm

WTF?

Has SES even trained with the team yet?
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Post by M99 Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:40 pm

The hell was that talk of playing him on CAM and then CM? *bleep* liars. I am absolutely gutted by this.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:56 am

Read that he doesn't fit in the 4-3-1-2 formation (surely he can play upfront in the '2'?) and thus it was decided to let him go.

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Post by Based Bonera Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:26 am

God damn it
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Post by Forza Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:57 am

weak.
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Post by M99 Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:45 pm

How it pained me to see him in the banner when I logged in today.
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Post by nichabr Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:46 pm

ok so we just sold our best and most promising player for a 2m loan....and 15m forced buy if he plays 15 games.....didn't we pay 15m for him? and isn't Monaco stacked?
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Post by Dante Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:11 pm

Bad news for us , selling El Shaarawy is a mistake . Although , the price is more or less understandable , SES has played like 1/3 of the last 2 seasons . An obligation to pay 15m after 15 games ... that alone isn't a bad deal . What's a bad deal is that they are selling him in the first place .

Having said that , perhaps this is for the best . SES at LCM is laughable and it would never , ever , work . Obviously Mihajlovic has other plans for the AM , or the management that is , so no room for him there afterall .

I used to say it all the time , that i was worried about SES ; about where he would play and all , elsewise what it could mean. Turns out my fears were correct and that the worst came to worst , way sooner than expected. Truth be told , if Milan are such idiots so as to not give SES a starting place as an AM , then we deserve to lose him .

We can't expect SES to take a gamble in (left) central midfield . That's ridiculous and could even destroy his career . We can't ask him to stay on the bench either , so maybe that's just what's best for him . I wish it doesn't happen , but yeah , lol .

What's funny is what Tassoti was saying , 'what happened with Darmian can't happen again' . Well , maybe this begins differently in comparison to Darmian's case , but you can bet your house , SES will eventually find himself in his own Manchester United. Especially if SES has a good season , or what i would bet my money on , have a Gourcuff v.2 season , well ; he's off to PSG next summer , or something like that.  

It's incredible just how stupid the management is .
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Post by M99 Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:34 pm

Buy Bertolacci for 20 million and now you have to sell El Shaarawy for 15 to make room for funds? Fckin geniuses :facepalm:
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Post by Ganso Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:02 pm

im not against selling SES, but considering how much we paid for him , how much we sold him for and how much we pay for other players, this is a pretty bad deal
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Post by Il Diavolo Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:25 pm

This is a bummer! Selling SES in itself is a bit incomprehensible, since he is our brightest player and could (probably will if we sell him) go on to become a major player. And 18m.... Da fuk... Sure he was injured and whatnot, but he's a player who is relatively proven in a big league and has champions league experience etc. This is an extremely inflated transfer market. I don't understand the need to sell him at this point, his recent injuries have definitely devalued his price, so just wait for him to have a good season so that we can at least get some good money... How is he not in Mihajlovic's plans? He is one of our teams most versatile and hark working players... He can play pretty much anywhere in the attacking third. I'm totally baffled.
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Post by uzonero Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:28 pm

Just logged in to find this
someone, tell me it's a joke
We are *bleep* selling SES?
*bleep* the management
I can't believe I keep supporting this club
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Post by uzonero Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:33 pm

How can we sell SES while we still have Menez?

I still can't believe this

This management, this club, they give us a glimmer of hope then they take it all away and spit on our faces

*bleep* whoever is responsible for this
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Post by uzonero Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:33 pm

How can we sell SES while we still have Menez?

I still can't believe this

This management, this club, they give us a glimmer of hope then they take it all away and spit on our faces

*bleep* whoever is responsible for this
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Post by M99 Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:16 pm

Selling El Shaarawy for less than we bought Bertolacci rofl
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Post by nichabr Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:42 pm

Galiani was responsible for the deal....I would put my savings towards organising his assassination honestly...
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Post by Guest Sat Jul 11, 2015 11:53 pm

unbelievable!!! when we should be shipping out guys like nocerino montolivo, zaccardo, menez..

we sell him now, and we are even close to selling mastour!


the management are just out of mind right now! i think they are trying to raise money to get either witsel or gundogan but ...

i would have sold the likes of de scilgio montolivo while getting rid of all dead weight... el shaarawy deserve to stay

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Post by Kaladin Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:23 am

Why are you so fixated on MDS and Monty leaving Laughing, both have given so much in the same manner as ES in the past, none of them have to leave
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Post by Forza Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:43 am

El Shaarawy wrote:Why are you so fixated on MDS and Monty leaving Laughing, both have given so much in the same manner as ES in the past, none of them have to leave

I agree, they are not high on the Hit List. There are so many more unworthy players in our team that should be cut before Monty & MDS.
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Post by Cookie Monster Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:15 am

Guys, every time we sell a young player that supposedly has potential and everybody likes, everyone goes bananas. But what happens to those players? Pato? Garbage. Balo? Garbage. When we sold Kaka everyone went nuts but how did that turn out for madrid?

I liked shawarma. But let's he honest, he had one half of a good season. That's it. One half. You guys are acting like we're selling a world class player. In all honesty, he'll most likely never end up as good as we all wanted him to be. He may become a good player one day, but aside from the emotional side of losing our golden child, this isn't really that bad of a move practically speaking.
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Post by Forza Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:12 am

Cookie Monster wrote:Guys, every time we sell a young player that supposedly has potential and everybody likes, everyone goes bananas. But what happens to those players? Pato? Garbage. Balo? Garbage. When we sold Kaka everyone went nuts but how did that turn out for madrid?

I liked shawarma. But let's he honest, he had one half of a good season. That's it. One half. You guys are acting like we're selling a world class player. In all honesty, he'll most likely never end up as good as we all wanted him to be. He may become a good player one day, but aside from the emotional side of losing our golden child, this isn't really that bad of a move practically speaking.

Good point, but on the other hand... if you asked me at the start of this week, "who is more likely to go to Monaco this transfer window, SES or Mexes?", I would've said Mexes. As things stand, we're keeping a 33 y.o. past-it CB whilst selling a promising 22 y.o. attacker.
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Post by dostoevsky Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:21 am

M99 wrote:Selling El Shaarawy for less than we bought Bertolacci rofl

This. I was worried when we were told we would buy three strikers that El Shaarawy would either hit the bench or leave but I allowed myself to be fooled by the focus put on him in Sinisa's press conference. Yet another short term reshuffle that gets us nowhere.

I don't see what Mexes' renewal has to do with this however. His departure would not have raised funds and his renewal does not preclude the arrival of a new central defender, he's being kept as a reserve.
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Post by Forza Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:33 am

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M99 wrote:Selling El Shaarawy for less than we bought Bertolacci rofl

This. I was worried when we were told we would buy three strikers that El Shaarawy would either hit the bench or leave but I allowed myself to be fooled by the focus put on him in Sinisa's press conference. Yet another short term reshuffle that gets us nowhere.

I don't see what Mexes' renewal has to do with this however. His departure would not have raised funds and his renewal does not preclude the arrival of a new central defender, he's being kept as a reserve.

1. Mexes' renewal is not directly related to SES' sale, but is is a timely sign of lack of ambition and poor decision-making.
The renewal of a player who is clearly not good enough and the sale of a player who is good enough in the same week is ludicrous, stupid and revolting. The timing says everything about where our club is at right now. We are striving to move forward with new money, but, at the same time, we are being hamstrung by poor decision-making in terms of our overall squad composition. No top tier club is content to sell youngsters cheaply whilst continuing to pay deadwood for below-par performances.

2. Regarding Mexes' renewal.

Let's deal with this issue once and for all: Mexes' renewal is unequivocally bull$hit. It is not good in any way. I fail to see how Mexes' being kept on serves any purpose whatsoever. We don't need him as a reserve, we have  4 other pleb CBs who can pretend to defend just as well as him in Alex, Zapata, Zaccardo and Paletta (not to mention Albertazzi). Furthermore, it appeared as if it was our management's intention that our very first signing of this transfer window, Rodrigo Ely, should make sure that Mexes' never sees the field on game day if our first two CBs are injured or suspended. As it stands, we have far too many crap CBs and a severe lack of will to force their sale or removal. Pathetic.
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Post by dostoevsky Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:14 pm

The timing is irrelevant. Our window is to be judged by the composition of the squad at the end of the transfer period. There is emotional resonance in the timing perhaps but all that matters is how it affects us on the pitch in the upcoming season.

If you look at the top squads in European football, the general standard is 4-5 recognised central defenders. It has been made clear that Sinisa wants at least one central defenderi. Whether he trusts Ely has not yet been established, it's still to be seen whether he'll go out on loan or stay with the squad.

So in our finished squad we can say there'll be at least one new arrival with four of our current options beside them. For argument's sake we'll say there's the possibility of a second new arrival in which case we must choose three of our current options to act as reserves.

We thus have the choice of Alex, Mexes, Paletta, Zapata, Zaccardo, Albertazzi, Ely and Vergara.

Albertazzi is absolutely inadequate at CB. He's been poor for us whenever used there, even in friendlies. He's a passable LB but we can't go into the new season expecting him to get many minutes in the centre and he should leave.

Ely and Vergara have no Serie A experience but neither did Romagnoli or Rugani prior to last season and they are now highly sought after in Europe. The ultimate call must be Mihjalovic's but there's been no real indication he is going to rely upon them.

Zaccardo's a train wreck and the only reason he's still around is that no one wants him, at least no one willing to pay him as much as we will.

Zapata's inadequate but there are worse reserves floating around. Not better than Alex, Mexes or Paletta however and could be used to raise a bit of cash. He must surely leave in search of playing time in any case lest he lose his spot for Colombia.

The only two defenders we have that are comparable to Mexes are Paletta and Alex. The former most seem happy to retain whilst the latter may well leave, hopefully raising some funds. So what is the big fuss about Mexes renewing? He's on a fairly standard contract, costs nothing and will simply be around to act as a reserve and compete for time with a new, younger arrival. If we brought no one else in then I'd be very disappointed with our prospective back four however there is still a long time yet in which to bring in players.

We need to retain some experienced heads at the back. Both Alex and Mexes are 33 so I don't see why we're choosing to differentiate between them. I only want one to stay, in addition to Paletta and given that Alex is on a larger contract and can be used to raise funds, I'd prefer to see him move on. Either way, this should be the last contract for both at Milan.
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