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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:42 am

That isn't 35m pounds like you insinuated though.

As of right now no one in the PL has a striker over 30m pounds other than Aguero.

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Post by S Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:45 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:That isn't 35m pounds like you insinuated though.

As of right now no one in the PL has a striker over 30m pounds other than Aguero.


There are huge chances that record will be broken shortly.

I mean Kane is valued at £45m Laughing

Its not just the striker market.There have been inflated deals across other positions.

Di Maria €80m
Oezil €50m
Defenders going for €40m and above

And did you forget Torres and Caroll that easily ?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:52 am

I like how your original argument was 35m pounds and then you are using Euros to inflate your argument in your favour Laughing

Also Carroll was a one in a million years type thing, will never happen again.

Also funny how you have now moved to other positions when it's become clear you were wrong about strikers Proud

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Post by S Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:59 am

Nice try.Those figures are surely higher than £35m.

Mole if you dont think Aguero's transfer record broken shortly,you're mistaken.Man United are in search of a striker.Arsenal too.

With Man United's desire to buy as many big names as possible,i'll be not surprised to see a big striker signing this year and the likes of Higuain fits in that category.

And Caroll definitely isnt a once in a million years thing Laughing Its a sign of things to come rather especially when it comes to buying English players.
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Post by Dante Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:01 am

S wrote:
Anyway , like i said , it's just fantasy talk . I doubt we are even interested in Hamsik to begin with , but honestly , it makes little difference if he's their captain. For the right price , ADL would sell him , there's no doubt about this. It's just that nobody seems to be willing to pay such a ridiculous price he would command.

Really ? One important thing you have to consider is the exchange rates.
For example £35m=€50m and thats like a normal price for an International calibre striker for EPL teams.A bidding war could easily take it to £40m+ and they'd get the price they want.(which would be about closer to €60m).
Hard to imagine Higuain being short of interest from EPL teams.They pay a premium for players nowadays.ADL just needs to give Woodward a call and he'd get the price he wants.


why do you quote the Hamsik part and go on to talk about Higuain and exchange rates Proud

anyway , i get your response obviously was for Higuain , but that part you quoted i was talking about Hamsik.

If the player would like to play for Milan , i am positive there could be something there , but as far as Milan goes , i can't see Milan offering more than 50m , obviously if the player would like to be with us. Nevertheless , i am yet to be convinced Higuain will go for around 60m whatever the case , even if he's meant to end up in EPL.  

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Right. And btw , Diego Costa went for 38-40m euros , iirc.

Chelsea and Atletico share a very good relationship.Chelsea basically loaned them Courtois for free for four years and both teams have made business several times.
It was hardly surprising to see Costa go for a fee less than he would normally go in today's market.



What Chelsea and Atletico have between them is one thing , that still doesn't change the fact that D. Costa went for that 40m and no matter how many clubs are going to be in for Higuain , they all won't be so positive in spending near 20m more on Higuain . As a matter of fact , i think there's no chance in hell anyone does that Laughing

Who may be so desperate to spend 60m euros on Higuain ? Best i can see is Arsenal and Tottenham offering around 45-50 tops , i don't see any other club that will offer more for him from EPL . Yanited don't need him , they have strikers . Chelsea certainly don't , Liverpool got Firmino and they are after Bacca. So it's 2 epl clubs that could probably pay as much as Milan would , if you think Arsenal and Tottenham would be willing to pay up to 60m for Higuain , idk what to say , i simply disagree .
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Post by S Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:07 am

Obviously i was hinting at United when i talked of EPL interest.They are in the market for a CF.

Higuain sold in the 50s or lesser could very well be possible but i'm only suggesting that if more than two clubs show concrete interest,that could well play into Napoli's hands and he would go to the highest bidder in the end.Basically i wouldnt rule out a bidding war for him with some desperate EPL club paying crazy money for him.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:12 am

S wrote:Nice try.Those figures are surely higher than £35m.

Mole if you dont think Aguero's transfer record broken shortly,you're mistaken.Man United are in search of a striker.Arsenal too.

With Man United's desire to buy as many big names as possible,i'll be not surprised to see a big striker signing this year and the likes of Higuain fits in that category.

And Caroll definitely isnt a once in a million years thing Laughing Its a sign of things to come rather especially when it comes to buying English players.


Carroll happened like 5 years ago, it's like bringing up all the Serie A transfer records. In terms of average players going for 35m it was a once in a life time thing.

Also you said strikers, you changed that when you realised i was right that Aguero is the only one lol. Whether it gets broken or not is irrelevant when your original post says it happens already....

For example £35m=€50m and thats like a normal price for an International calibre striker for EPL teams.

It's quite clearly not a normal price for international calibre strikers for EPL teams when only one player has cost that much in the last 5 years lol.
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Post by S Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:13 am

I'm saying its going to be the norm going into the future.Why arent you getting it ?

And love how you completely ignored Torres btw.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:16 am

Has any other striker got close to Torres since? No so again it's not normal.
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Post by S Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:19 am

No,but it will.
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Post by Dante Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:27 am

Manchester would win any bidding war for Higuain , if it came to that..

I know you implied Manchester , obviously they most likely would have a striker even though they have strikers already , but since they didn't sign Falcao.. Higuain tho? Not sure why they would go for him .

Depay , Rooney and Van Persie , Mata too .. who knows who else they get. Surely they would like that lad Kane too. Not sure why they would spend 50-60m euros on Higuain , will they just bench Van Persie for the entire season? It's too complicated . And why not invest that on Kane , surely it would make more sense for Yanited.

To conclude , i do agree Yanited is the only club that would actually win a bidding war for Higuain , even for 60m.. but does Manchester-Higuain make sense as things stand?? To me , it doesn't actually. And in any case , wouldn't there be some heavy rumours if a move of this sort was on the cards for them , you would expect serious buzz about it.. i'd say even before the summer , but there doesn't seem to be anything really.

And in any case , for that kind of money , Manchester would most likely preffer Kane , no? And i still don't see how and where Higuain would fit at Manchester , it's not just the money. United could buy almost any player if it was just the money.
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Post by S Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:37 am

Van Persie is old on the decline and they cant rely on him as evidenced by the past yr or so.
They lack a frontline CF apart from RVP and that Wilson kid.
Depay is a winger.That doesnt stop them from going for a proper CF.
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Post by Dante Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:41 am

i meant where are they going to field all of them , lol i know their players well enough .

Obviously Van Persie is growing older , but that doesn't mean any of the two will accept a bench role , or that Yanited will spend 60m euros to have Higuain play half a season .

I really don't see United getting involved with Higuain , but let's see. Higuain may as well stay at Napoli for all we know.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:20 am

According to RO, Pool are pursuing a striker, this means that they won't target Kovacic. Also, Inter are close to signing Imbula, as well as Salah. Inter demanding 30m for Kova, which i don't mind, but will they sell to a direct rival? Highly unlikely
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Post by Dante Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:03 pm

http://www.football-italia.net/68267/napoli-%E2%80%98%E2%82%AC94m-higuain%E2%80%99

“Napoli are keen to clarify certain articles, published in some newspapers, about the departure of Higuain,” the statement began.

“The official clarification from Napoli is the following: there is a clause in Gonzalo Higuain’s contract. The clause is €94,736,000.

"There have been no bids. Anyone who wants the player will have to pay the club that amount."

And no logic was found that day .

gtfo here , 94.736.000 ? No wonder why we didn't see Higuain's agent shopping him around

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Post by dostoevsky Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:14 pm

Well that settles that. Laughing

I'm far from convinced that Higuain isn't obtainable for far less than 94 million however it would surely require Gonzalo to kick up a fuss and for a strong offer from a Champions League side to arrive. Could he force a move to Milan if it was his heart's desire? Of course and De Laurentis is a shrewd enough businessman to realise when it is better to sell but a comment like this to my mind demonstrates that they remain committed to keeping him despite Benitez' departure. If he is to leave it will be once they've secured any desired replacements for Sarri's project. I personally don't think anyone other than Callejon will leave for the record nor do I think Sarri will dogmatically enforce the 4-3-1-2 on the squad. Napoli's great strength is their attack and the flexibility they have up front. Sarri will no doubt want to repair their midfield and control games in a manner Benitez never did when up against comparable teams but to dismantle their attack? I'm not yet convinced. Callejon's been preparing to leave for a long time, I don't see it a a sign and particularly not for Hamsik's departure. He puts up with more nonsense in a year at Napoli than most footballers endure in a career and yet he's remained loyal for so long. Saponara had a great few months upon his return to Empoli but you don't cast aside a long suffering servant and captain like Hamsik for him, particularly when Marek can drop into a deeper position even.
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Post by Dante Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:38 pm

Actually , if Sarri is indeed a poor man's Sacchi .. he could actually play 4-2-3-1 with Napoli . Won't be the same as Benitez , not so offensive especially if Callejon does leave , but it would be dynamic with a more secure defence .

I've said this before countless times , the people who say 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are similar don't understand shit about tactics . The 4-2-3-1 is the new 4-4-2 and if there's any formation the 4-3-3 is similar to , that's the 4-3-1-2 . Depending on his players , surely there's a very good chance Sarri continues to play 4-2-3-1 , in fact my money would be on that actually.

As for Higuain , i am sure the dude would entertain the idea to play elsewhere , but if that's true and there's such a clause in his contract.. it will be very difficult to force himself out. It could be done .. but he will have to pull certain strings that can be undone after . I don't see him willing to tarnish his reputation and face in Napoli .

In other news :

Tuttofraud reports Witsel rejected us , media in Belgium insist this is a done dealio , Zenit's president says there's no offer rofl

I guess the news that came out after the Kondogbia and Martinez failures were true afterall. #Silence . TBH , he works better alone and in silence really.

You don't need more than a phone and some privacy to secure the likes of Baselli and Jose Mauri rofl
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Post by Forza Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:58 pm

De Jong has renewed until 2018 - great news.
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Post by dostoevsky Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:35 am

M’Baye Niang has signed a contract extension with Milan until June 2019 after his loan spell at Genoa.

“I’m with the Rossoneri for another two years,” wrote the 20-year-old on his Twitter account.

“I am very happy. Thanks to Milan for having faith in me, I’m always proud.”

The striker joined Milan from Caen in August 2012, but didn’t score a single Serie A goal for the club.

It was during a six-month loan at Genoa that he really burst into life, finding the net five times in just 14 games for the Rossoblu.

His contract had been due to expire in June 2017, but tonight Niang added another two years to that agreement.
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Post by dostoevsky Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:39 am

It's also being reported that we are trying to sign Luiz Adriano on a pre-contract to join in January, which may persuade Shakhtar to accept a lower fee now rather than lose him for free in six months.
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Post by dostoevsky Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:42 pm

We're reported as offering 14 million for Romagnoli by Il Giornale. We can expect it to be rebuffed but from here we'll see just how determined Roma are to hold onto him.

It's also reported by Tuttosport that Llorente's agent has offered him to us but we aren't acting on this proposal currently. Hopefully we won't in the future, either.
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Post by Dante Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:14 am

dostoevsky wrote:We're reported as offering 14 million for Romagnoli by Il Giornale. We can expect it to be rebuffed but from here we'll see just how determined Roma are to hold onto him.

It's also reported by Tuttosport that Llorente's agent has offered him to us but we aren't acting on this proposal currently. Hopefully we won't in the future, either.


Unless Garcia guarantees him a place next to Manolas , there's a good chance a transfer may happen this summer . I don't know if it will be to Milan , because apparently Romagnoli is apparently already thinking about the Champions League , but yeah , if the right offer came , Roma will probably consider selling him . Again , that's if he finds no guarantees from Roma .

TBH , if Roma really wants 20m , we should pay the price and take the risk . We know Mihajlovic trusts him , he would be a regular from day 1 at Milan. But let's see , somehow i don't see this happening either way .
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Post by Il Diavolo Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:35 am

Gabriel has also extended until 2018, which I think is good. But with Abbiati extending, I think the best option for him would be to go out on loan again (Carpi are in Serie A now, hopefully they pick him up again).
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Post by Dante Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:40 am

Rami sold to Sevilla . Wish him good luck , unfortunate it didn't work out for him at Milan . He'll surely be great for them.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:58 am

According to Sky, Zenit are asking 40m for Witsel, Milan deem that amount too high but will try a lower offer.

What alternatives do you guys have in mind in case Witsel is out of the picture? There's always Cabaye, rotting at PSG's bench, though i dunno if they want to sell now that their ban is lifted. At his best he was a NT starter and a great midfielder. There's also the option of Jordy Clasie, NT player, relatively young, could be an inexpensive option as well.
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Post by Il Diavolo Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:38 pm

Bacca is official!

And I agree with our management on Witsel. 40m is definitely crazy, considering the fact that he has never played in a one of the big leagues and has been playing in Russia for the last three years.  We could probably go for someone like Eriksen for a lower price.
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