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Post by LeSwagg James Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:37 am

Why can't players just say that they believe they're 'one of the best in the world' and leave it at that?

I don't watch him much but I do know he flopped on the biggest stage there is, you can't be the 6th best player in the world if you do that.

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Post by CBarca Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:41 am

LeSwagg James wrote:Why can't players just say that they believe they're 'one of the best in the world' and leave it at that?

I don't watch him much but I do know he flopped on the biggest stage there is, you can't be the 6th best player in the world if you do that.


flops in nearly every big game*

But no he's one of the best
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Post by Zealous Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:50 am

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For me the only that comes close to Hazard in the league is Di Maria.


LMAO What has Hazard done in his entire career to be considered better than Di Maria who is a legit elite footballer?
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Post by Gil Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:27 pm

Zealous wrote:
Blue wrote:
For me the only that comes close to Hazard in the league is Di Maria.


LMAO What has Hazard done in his entire career to be considered better than Di Maria who is a legit elite footballer?


Statpadding as the 4th/5th wheel in Spain with one of the best players ever means nothing. Hazard could have easily moved to Spain and beefed up his statistics but wanted to prove himself as a leader in England first.

As of now Hazard is having the better season. Di Maria has a better final pass and is a superior crosser but that's about it. Stop pretending Hazard isn't elite himself, his dribbling ability alone makes him otherworldly.
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Post by MaraVilla Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:55 pm

if having great games means ghosting on a pitch for 89 minutes/game then yes hazard is top 5 :coffee:

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Post by RED Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:50 pm

Gil wrote:
Zealous wrote:
Blue wrote:
For me the only that comes close to Hazard in the league is Di Maria.


LMAO What has Hazard done in his entire career to be considered better than Di Maria who is a legit elite footballer?


Statpadding as the 4th/5th wheel in Spain with one of the best players ever means nothing. Hazard could have easily moved to Spain and beefed up his statistics but wanted to prove himself as a leader in England first.

As of now Hazard is having the better season. Di Maria has a better final pass and is a superior crosser but that's about it. Stop pretending Hazard isn't elite himself, his dribbling ability alone makes him otherworldly.


:facepalm:

4th/5th wheel at RM and stat paddling? He was arguably their 2nd best attacking player last season.

Hazard is having a better season so far?

Hazard 2 goals- 1 assist.

Di Maria 3 goals 3 assists.

Then taking into consideration Di Maria missed 2 of our opening matches, is in a new team, new league. He's already shown more to his game than a player who has been in the league for 3 years now.

Take those blue tinted specs off.
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Post by sree999 Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:01 pm

Isn't fabregas having a better season  than hazard ? I have a question. Who is the clutch player for renties? Hazard or fabregas
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Post by Zealous Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:03 pm

Gil wrote:
Zealous wrote:
Blue wrote:
For me the only that comes close to Hazard in the league is Di Maria.


LMAO What has Hazard done in his entire career to be considered better than Di Maria who is a legit elite footballer?


Statpadding as the 4th/5th wheel in Spain with one of the best players ever means nothing. Hazard could have easily moved to Spain and beefed up his statistics but wanted to prove himself as a leader in England first.

As of now Hazard is having the better season. Di Maria has a better final pass and is a superior crosser but that's about it. Stop pretending Hazard isn't elite himself, his dribbling ability alone makes him otherworldly.

Except for the fact that anyone with eyes knows Di Maria is a few notches above Hazard right now.

Di Maria in addition to being an actual winner and a great champion is already out preforming Hazard despite playing less games lol. The gap will only get bigger once Angel finds out how many scrub teams there are in England.
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Post by Bankz Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:17 pm

Do people genuinly know the meaning of carrying a team? Smh, just an example for u gil, cr7 (this season), messi (for 2012/13 season) neymar for santos (2010-2013, infact in 2012 santos played 16 without him and lost 9 and drew 3),ronaldo nazario (98 league, uefa cup) ibra (for ac milan in 2011), maradona boca juniours (78-81), henry (05-06 season) these are to name a few..most of the other things we see/hear/percieve are just a combination of the right players being there at the right time (france 98, la decima win with bale and cr7, the 2004 invincibles with henry, falcao 12/13 season with atl madrid), and team chemistry (i.e messi 2009, spain 2008-2012, germany 2014). These are the things people/fans see and pick out a best player on those teams and say they 'carried' the team..they're more or less the cherry on the cake..trust me, when hazard can nearly do that, we'll help you blow his trumpet.. If he has one.
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Post by Bankz Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:17 pm

Tbh, hazard isnt better than sanchez, maybe more likable and flashier.


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Post by Bankz Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:19 pm

Smh..


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Post by Bankz Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:19 pm

Di maria shits on hazard in dribbling..di maria is actually a top 5 dribbler in the world right now. Apart from the occasional headless chicken syndrome


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Post by Gil Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:21 pm

Lets stop pretending Di Maria was a factor in the CL until the final.

In order of importance it was

1. Ronaldo
2. Ramos
3. Modric
4. Pepe (dat Allianz performance remains legendary)
5. Bale
6. Alonso
Then Benz and ADM tied for 7th.

He built up a ton of hype on the basis of his two games against Barca alone. The "assist" against Atleti was the cherry on top. Didn't he miss an almost crucial pen against BVB as well? Laughing


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Post by Valkyrja Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:31 pm

1. Ronaldo
2. Xabi
3. Ramos/Pepe
4. Modric
5. Di Maria/Bale
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Post by RED Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:35 pm

keep telling yourself that if you think it'll help you sleep at night. deluded.

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Post by RealGunner Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:38 pm

The length people go at to discredit a player just to make their favourite seem higher Laughing

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Post by The Franchise Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:46 pm

Gil's hype jobs are incredible Laughing

You-tubing us Ligue 1 stuff like it means something. Thats baby sh!t, nobody cares.

Di Maria been crucial to a team that won a CL,actually lets go one step further..putting it straight, if he didnt play the way he did and in the position he did, they dont win the CL. Plain and simple.

What has Hazard done? Europa League Champ and win a pen vs Arsenal? Laughing
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Post by Glory Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:47 pm

Gil wrote:

Hazard is the main man for the best club in the country. It's time to accept facts.


Ha! So what you are trying to say here is he is the best player in the league because he is the main player of the so called best team in the league.  Shocked  I am sorry man but thats one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

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If you don't rate Hazard, fine that's your problem. Maybe pick another sport to follow though, he's an elite player.


And this rofl what sort of a counterargument is this.

Please.. People are only going to loose any sort of respect they have of hazard if you go on putting up comments such as this. full metal LOL Laughing

We rate hazard, but believe me bro,. he is clearly not the player you are so desperately making him to be.

Gil wrote:For me the only players in the World better than Hazard are Messi, CR, Robben, Ibra, Suarez, Neymar & Neuer.

If Hazard doesn't rest on his laurels like Iniesta and improves on his stats then he's just a level below Messi/CR.


seems you are really on a roll today. keep em' coming. Proud

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Post by izzy Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:22 pm

Valkyrja wrote:1. Ronaldo
2. Xabi
3. Ramos/Pepe
4. Modric
5. Di Maria/Bale


Gil wrote:Lets stop pretending Di Maria was a factor in the CL until the final.

In order of importance it was

1. Ronaldo
2. Ramos
3. Modric
4. Pepe (dat Allianz performance remains legendary)
5. Bale
6. Alonso
Then Benz and ADM tied for 7th.

He built up a ton of hype on the basis of his two games against Barca alone. The "assist" against Atleti was the cherry on top. Didn't he miss an almost crucial pen against BVB as well? Laughing


Suspect

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Post by Gil Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:24 pm

Valkyrja wrote:1. Ronaldo
2. Xabi
3. Ramos/Pepe
4. Modric
5. Di Maria/Bale


Valk :bow:

Ramos despite that performance away at Dortmund is 2nd on that list for me. Unlike La Liga he was pretty consistent in defense in the knockout rounds and you simply can't underplay the importance of his two headers at the Allianz and of course the fabled 93 minuto goal.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:30 pm

Gil wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:1. Ronaldo
2. Xabi
3. Ramos/Pepe
4. Modric
5. Di Maria/Bale


Valk :bow:

Ramos despite that performance away at Dortmund is 2nd on that list for me. Unlike La Liga he was pretty consistent in defense in the knockout rounds and you simply can't underplay the importance of his two headers at the Allianz and of course the fabled 93 minuto goal.


Yes but Xabi was by far our best performer in the first leg of the Bayern game. Infact that was the best game I saw him play in a Madrid shirt. We also saw the difference between our team on the field last season with him and without him, in the Dortmund game. He was the real turning point for us, not Di Maria. And I agree, the argentine was instrumental in the final, but he was bad vs Dortmund(his penalty miss could have been decisive) and good but not great vs Bayern(he played RW in the first leg)
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Post by Kaladin Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:34 pm

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If you don't rate Hazard, fine that's your problem. Maybe pick another sport to follow though, he's an elite player.

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Post by Gil Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:35 pm

Call it bias or whatever I'm simply offering some perspective on Di Maria's skewed performances. After several inconsistent years he plays well against Barca and suddenly he's "untouchable". The fact that some of you actually consider him the 2nd best player in the La Decima run is utterly laughable. I even heard several people claiming he was Argentina's best player in the World Cup until his injury. Laughing

As for his PL performances. The goal against Leicester was special and so was the one against Everton but lets not forget a good proportion of those goals/assists were mishit shots or crosses. He's had a great start but he's also been very fortunate so far.

I think in terms of overall play Hazard is the PL's standout player so far. Statistically and impact wise it could be either one of Costa or Cesc but the fact that Hazard was the man in the big games means he shades it for me. The stats to back up his current play will eventually come, Palace is a great time to start.
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Post by The Franchise Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:37 pm

sree999 wrote:Isn't fabregas having a better season  than hazard ? I have a question. Who is the clutch player for renties? Hazard or fabregas


Chelsea's best player is whoever your arguing against.

If you say something bad about Costa, Costa is the best player. Say something bad about Cesc, he is the best player....say something about Hazard? Hazard.

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Post by farfan Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:44 pm

fabregas has been chelsea's best player this season .

some butthurt barça fans don't like that for some reason .
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Post by Glory Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:45 pm

Valkyrja wrote:1. Ronaldo
2. Xabi
3. Ramos/Pepe
4. Modric
5. Di Maria/Bale


is this because you guys have now started to win games again on a regular basis all courtesy cronaldo or is it because you want to still make yourself feel better; these efforts to discredit di maria all of a sudden. Conveniently overlooking his contributions last season. Anyway its your wish, your opinion. You can say whatever you want. But the world aint blind bruh.


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