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Post by Robespierre Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:51 am

mr-r34 wrote:Do you guys know why Shaqiri prefers Inter over Liverpool?
He is starter 100% to Inter, even if he would be drunk. We are very poor for offensive solutions.
In Liverpool he would have competition. ( LFC has many players in that side, infact it 'd have other needs on paper)
And if he leaves Bayern ... he wants to have certainties . Otherwise he stays in Bayern . There is not great advantage.
And basically if you must choose among 2 top teams for name but not for present you choose where you play as sure starter, at least.
If he prefers Inter, I think there are the reasons


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Post by rwo power Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:53 am

transfermarkt.de claim that the Viola are interested in Roman Weidenfeller. LOL, Fio made Basel the incredible offer of 3 mio Euros for Yann Sommer not too long ago (which was rightfully laughed off), and now they want to go cheaply for Weide... rofl
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Post by farfan Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:02 am

Taarabt is fundamentally a perfect player :

ambidexterity.
great crosses.
great finishing.
great free kicks .
great one vs one skills .
great passing and vision .

on his best day he's better than Ben arfa , menez etc..

too bad those days are very rare Laughing
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Post by mr-r34 Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:07 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:probably because pool are a declining mess in a league where too many teams are better than they are

Robespierre wrote:
mr-r34 wrote:Do you guys know why Shaqiri prefers Inter over Liverpool?
He is starter 100% to Inter, even if he would be drunk. We are very poor for offensive solutions.
In Liverpool he would have competition. ( LFC has many players in that side, infact it 'd have other needs on paper)
And if he leaves Bayern ... he wants to have certainties . Otherwise he stays in Bayern . There is not great advantage.
And basically if you must choose among 2 top teams for name but not for present you choose where you play as sure starter, at least.
If he prefers Inter, I think there are the reasons

You ask a simple question, you get 1 fairly logical answer and then you get 1 tard answering it as well.

Like honestly Nick did you think your answer through or are you just a dumb *bleep*?

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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:10 am

i genuinely think you are a shit tard club, just calling it as it is bra
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Post by mr-r34 Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:18 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:i genuinely think you are a shit tard club, just calling it as it is bra


That's fine and acceptable but when the comparison is against Inter there really is no grounds.
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Post by Kaladin Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:20 am

farfan wrote:Taarabt is fundamentally a perfect player :

ambidexterity.
great crosses.
great finishing.
great free kicks .
great one vs one skills .
great passing and vision .

on his best day he's better than Ben arfa , menez etc..

too bad those days are very rare Laughing


For me, i'd put Menez when on form ahead of him, this is gauged from both player's time at Milan. Both have similar qualities tbh, but Menez for me is a game changer, he can singlehandedly tip the scales in our favor. Plus, Menez is a better finisher. The only criteria i'd put Taarabt ahead of Menez is probably workrate and maybe selflessness.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:26 am

mr-r34 wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:i genuinely think you are a shit tard club, just calling it as it is bra


That's fine and acceptable but when the comparison is against Inter there really is no grounds.
just messing with you lol

But it's just as Robes explained, playing time, more guarantees to be a starter.

Something i eluded as well which you couldn't read since blood was rushing to your brain, Inter look like a more stable club to me, building up, adding piece and value like Podolski few days ago. They have Kovacic whom they are trying to build around, and it will be easier for them to reach the top of Serie A if they continue with the same level of focus and signing.

As opposed to your club which is tail spinning, legend of the club retiring, performances from last season plummeting. And competition in EPL makes it much harder to jump level from one year to the other, specially when we are talking about those 4 CL spots.

All and all, Inter is a better option all things considered at the moment. And we all know he is looking to play to make that extra step to the chelsea, madrid, bayern level of club, all those young players do.
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Post by mr-r34 Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:53 am

No you didn't. Podolski value LOL.

Rumors suggest clubs are after Kovacic, can they keep him though?

Not sure if your trolling for the last sentence or you really just mean he wants to increase his level of play to match what's required at the clubs you mentioned. If then wouldn't be asking for a loan option be better so that he can skip all the transfer BS later.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:09 am

not sure what will happen to Inter, but they have less to do to go back to the top of their league than Liverpool atm. That's a key point.

And yes i meant that he wants to play a lot more to reach the level (if he can) that's required to be a starter in those big clubs.

A loan is not enough because it would take at least 2 or 3 seasons for him to build that reputation and show consistency at a high level. Besides, the way a club threats a loanee and a player they feel they can build around or for, is completely different.
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Post by Red Alert Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:54 am

Robespierre wrote:
mr-r34 wrote:Do you guys know why Shaqiri prefers Inter over Liverpool?
He is starter 100% to Inter, even if he would be drunk. We are very poor for offensive solutions.
In Liverpool he would have competition. ( LFC has many players in that side, infact it 'd have other needs on paper)
And if he leaves Bayern ... he wants to have certainties . Otherwise he stays in Bayern . There is not great advantage.
And basically if you must choose among 2 top teams for name but not for present you choose where you play as sure starter, at least.
If he prefers Inter, I think there are the reasons


We're not even interested according to Barrett. lol

Stupid though, as he'd walk straight into our starting XI. :facepalm:
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Post by B-Mac Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:55 am

mr-r34 wrote:Do you guys know why Shaqiri prefers Inter over Liverpool?

Mr Nick09 wrote:probably because pool are a declining mess in a league where too many teams are better than they are

nail...head


Inter have a better shot at CL then liverpool do as well for the foreseeable future
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Post by Red Alert Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:01 am

Inter is riddled with debt lmao. Didn't they just loan 150m to pay off some of their debt? lol

Inter might look like a better option now, but Liverpool >>> Inter given their situation behind the scenes at the moment. Won't be long before Rafa comes home and we're up there again. Neutral

EDIT: Speaking of Rafa, Napoli will probably steal the last CL spot anyway. Sorry robes. :\


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Post by rwo power Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:02 am

Italy has better food and Shaq's hairdresser doesn't have to drive too far from Aargau to Milan?
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Post by McAgger Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:11 am

We should already be up there. We've been in transition for so *bleep* long it's unreal. It's like we keep letting inept people run the club. Jesus, man can someone with two brain cells come in and build a *bleep* squad that makes sense.

We're in the top 10 richest clubs in the world. Why are we not in top 10 best clubs in the world with our resources? If money is what's running todays game why isn't that the case? It's fckin infuriating.

Get some intelligent people in the club. That's all I *bleep* want. That is the only *bleep* wish I have for my club. There is really no direction we are heading. I don't care what bull shit logic any idiot posts in response to this, we really have no idea what direction we are heading that I can forsee.

Spoiler:
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Post by Kaladin Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:21 am

#ThanksObama
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:35 am

Red Alert wrote:Inter is riddled with debt lmao. Didn't they just loan 150m to pay off some of their debt? lol

Inter might look like a better option now, but Liverpool >>> Inter given their situation behind the scenes at the moment. Won't be long before Rafa comes home and we're up there again. Neutral

EDIT: Speaking of Rafa, Napoli will probably steal the last CL spot anyway. Sorry robes. :\
Shaqiri wouldn't go there to solve their debt situation lol, he would go to get games in, shine and find a new, bigger club after...

anyway, only reason i quoted u is because of that first line.

So...if you have debt (meaning you owe money), and you borrow 150 mil to pay off some of that debt, doesn't that mean you still have a debt of 150 mil? Laughing

i didn't follow Inter situation lately but that bit made me chuckle Laughing
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Post by Red Alert Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:26 am

And he couldn't do that at Liverpool? We've turned into a selling club ffs. rofl

I remember reading it a couple of months ago, not sure if links credible but first link of google:

Inter Milan, the Italian football club majority owned by Indonesian business tycoon Erick Thohir, has secured a €230 million ($313 million) club loan mid-June in order to repay its existing debt and fund operations.

http://www.financeasia.com/News/388048,inter-milan-scores-landmark-8364230m-loan.aspx

EDIT: Reading up on it, Moratti made them a mess, and Thohir looks like he's trying to fix it.

Still, they've lost over 100m Euros last season. lol
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Post by zizzle Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:40 am

Thats basically thohir transfaring Moratti's debt into his own accounts. That puts us in better situation because a lot of tht debt is no longer on our books (a decline of 10m in interest expenses last year, do the math)
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:41 am

Thohir did a LBO (leverage buyout)... he didn't buy Inter with equity.  His investment was in the form of debt.  It's lower interest debt than the previous regime so the interest payments are lower... but it's still debt.  Manchester United was bought in the same way.

It's a means on insuring that the club is running in an optimal manner since it has to keep making the interest payments every month.

I did a lot of LBOs in the 90s and it's ruthless but effective.
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Post by iftikhar Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:50 am

B-Mac wrote:
mr-r34 wrote:Do you guys know why Shaqiri prefers Inter over Liverpool?

Mr Nick09 wrote:probably because pool are a declining mess in a league where too many teams are better than they are

nail...head


Inter have a better shot at CL then liverpool do as well for the foreseeable future
Inter is 11th, Nine points from CL place. We are 8th, Seven points from CL place.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:58 pm

Moussa Sissoko on his way to PSG

at least that's what Eurosport france are saying, advanced talks for the deal.

Motta wants to go, very badly.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:28 pm

It's clearly going to happen imo, but Eurosport are not exactly the most reliable.

Not sure how it effects Motta though.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:36 pm

Motta wants to go, very badly from what i understand.

Cabaye is probably dancing somewhere
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:47 pm

Yeah but how does Sissoko coming effect Motta? They play completely different and Sissoko is completely incapable of replacing Motta.
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Post by Onyx Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:50 pm

Arsenal are interested in Saint-Etienne centre back Loic Perrin, according to Sky Sports.

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