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Post by McAgger Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:20 pm

Oh no, I'm saying he's not as a bad a loss as you one would think. Sure it's not ideal to replace him with Collison but you don't want to overpay for Thomas or Collison for that matter.

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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:24 pm

I wouldnt call 6.75m a year for Thomas as overpaying.

He is a near 20 point scorer and in terms of advanced stats, he is comparable to Kyrie Irving.

He is small and plays suspect D because of it, plus he is a little dribble happy..but like I said, not even 7m a year.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:56 pm

NBA on ESPN ‏@ESPNNBA 11m
Bulls making push for Kevin Love, Cavs still in lead (via @ESPNSteinLine & @WindhorstESPN).

F*cks sake if that happens Laughing

Rest of the East can say goodnight rofl
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:02 pm

The TWolves are probably drooling at the thought of Mirotic (that Euro core of Pek-Rubio-Mirotic), a pick and say Gibson.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:10 pm

They probably don't get it done without Gibson, but if i'm the Bulls i do everything i can to keep Gibson.

For all the offense you add by getting Gasol and Love, the athleticism and defense you lose could be just as impactful.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:36 pm

But if you keep Gibson, thats him, Love, Pau and Joakim. Not enough minutes to go around.

I would rather keep Gibson than adding Pau (if Love comes) but Pau is already there so its too late.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:37 pm

Also, Gibson the only contract big enough to make it work. Butler still on his rookie deal.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:47 pm

Do agree on the minutes thing, i'm just thinking about the bigs rotation and aside from Noah in this instance there's really none which are that good defensively.

They would have basically just flipped the script. Gone from a lockdown defensive team who had scoring problems, to a in theory at least a free scoring team who has troubles defending.

From that starting 5 the only one who you could consider great defensively is Butler(outside of Noah), Thibs is a fantastic coach but that's a big ask to expect Rose-Butler-Dunleavy-Love-Noah to produce the goods defensively.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:52 pm

I agree, Love and Pau...thats going to get destroyed.

And really, only Noah and Butler going to be able to do anything defensively. 2 cant hold together all 5.

I guess they would do everything to limit the time Love and Pau play together only to the 2nd unit.

Somewhere between 10-16 Noah less minutes.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:10 pm

I think they could of sort fix the issue if they get a defensive wing.

It doesn't complete solve the problem but it at least gives Butler/Hinrich some help on the perimeter.

But i doubt they have the cash to do that, i heard some rumours the other day about Marion but think he gets paid more than the money that's being talked about ( i.e. Lakers 2.7m exception)
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:22 pm

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Post by dmize Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:29 pm

The Bulls can't offer enough to get Love comparable to what everyone else is offering. Probably a smokescreen by Minny's FO to get Cleveland to up their offer, or to get GS to include Thompson.
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Post by dmize Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:47 pm

Bit of a rant here, but I love how NOW they decide to change the lottery format.

Only after the NBA hands out three #1 picks in 4 years to the Cavs... Which was a blatant fix job to make Cleveland more appealing for Bron. A #1 pick 3x out of 4? The odds of that happening legitimately are .0074256, seven thousandths of one percent(good article by a Stanford student http://www.stanforddaily.com/2014/05/20/venkataraman-circumstances-numbers-show-rigged-nba-draft-lottery/ )

LeBron goes back to Cleveland = most marketable player goes back to his hometown team, the team he walked away from four years ago. A city who hasn't won a professional sports championship in 50 years. Viewership, revenue all go up. Why wouldn't the NBA rig the lottery?

Wouldn't be the first time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1kMlG8c7Y
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Post by The Franchise Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:21 pm

dmize wrote:The Bulls can't offer enough to get Love comparable to what everyone else is offering. Probably a smokescreen by Minny's FO to get Cleveland to up their offer, or to get GS to include Thompson.

What do you think the Wolves should be looking for?

Mirotic, Gibson

Smart, Bass

Lee, Thompson

Wiggins, Waiters, Thompson

Whats the best for them, in order?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:10 am

doesnt Love hold all the power in this? i mean, if he tells Boston or the bulls he is not resigning because he wants to join lebron, wouldnt all those offers get off the table? who is his agent? they can strong arm minnie into dealing only with the cavs
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Post by dmize Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:52 am

The Franchise wrote:
dmize wrote:The Bulls can't offer enough to get Love comparable to what everyone else is offering. Probably a smokescreen by Minny's FO to get Cleveland to up their offer, or to get GS to include Thompson.

What do you think the Wolves should be looking for?

Mirotic, Gibson

Smart, Bass

Lee, Thompson

Wiggins, Waiters, Thompson

Whats the best for them, in order?


Wiggins + Waiters/Bennett

Until GS is offering Thompson, Boston has the 2nd best offer imo. Not just Smart, Young or Olynyk but picks for days. The unprotected Brooklyn picks, our own picks, Clippers 1st, Cavs 1st, Philly protected 1st.

Apparently the Nuggets have a good offer for Minnesota but I don't know what it is. Faried/Harris maybe
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Post by dmize Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:53 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:doesnt Love hold all the power in this? i mean, if he tells Boston or the bulls he is not resigning because he wants to join lebron, wouldnt all those offers get off the table? who is his agent? they can strong arm minnie into dealing only with the cavs


Well if Kevin Love came out and said that, the Cavs would probably take Wiggins out of the offer. Kills Minny's leverage.
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Post by dmize Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:02 am

"The Utah Jazz will trade John Lucas, Malcolm Thomas and Erik Murphy to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Carrick Felix, a future second round pick and $1 million in cash."

non-guaranteed contracts. Seems like the Wiggins/Love trade will go down this week.
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Post by Freeza Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:20 am

Joel Embiid Proud already locked down this year's twitter awards rofl
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Post by The Franchise Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:46 am

I think if I am the Bulls I trade for Love even if he says he wont resign.

Because I think he would bes simply bluffing to try and move where he wants.

Once he gets to Chicago and plays with a better team that the Cavs would be, he would resign despite his bluster. Especially given his zero playoff to this point vs what the Bulls would do with him. Love aint leaving a team which goes to the finals (as the Bulls very well might with him)...even to play with Lebron.

Whats his next option after that? Cavs cant just pick him up in FA without him taking a major paycut. It wouldnt be like Miami, Lebron and Kyrie getting taking up more cap than any of that big 3, plus Varejao on like 8m.

Its a risk for the Bulls, but if the option is there I would take it. Their offer isnt as strong as Wiggins plus whoever, but you can feel that the Cavs are doing everything possible to get Love without Wiggins and that might open the door for the Bulls.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:50 pm

Roy Hibbert training with Kareem.

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Post by dmize Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:45 pm

The Franchise wrote:I think if I am the Bulls I trade for Love even if he says he wont resign.

Because I think he would bes simply bluffing to try and move where he wants.

Once he gets to Chicago and plays with a better team that the Cavs would be, he would resign despite his bluster. Especially given his zero playoff to this point vs what the Bulls would do with him. Love aint leaving a team which goes to the finals (as the Bulls very well might with him)...even to play with Lebron.

Whats his next option after that? Cavs cant just pick him up in FA without him taking a major paycut. It wouldnt be like Miami, Lebron and Kyrie getting taking up more cap than any of that big 3, plus Varejao on like 8m.

Its a risk for the Bulls, but if the option is there I would take it. Their offer isnt as strong as Wiggins plus whoever, but you can feel that the Cavs are doing everything possible to get Love without Wiggins and that might open the door for the Bulls.


They could do that but it's definitely a risk. With the bigger cap in 2015 and 2016, he'll probably opt out regardless, even just to get more from Chicago.

The Cavs payroll for 2015-16
LeBron 21.5 option
Irving at 16(estimating)
Wiggins at 6
Thompson: 7.1 QO
Bennett at 5.8 TO
Waiters 5.1 TO

so that's 61.5m right there of the expected ~66m cap. However if LeBron opts out, they are at 40m, you can sign Love starting at 17 or so, and then go over to re-sign LeBron(possibly even avoiding lux tax before min deals)
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:03 pm

According to Sheridan, Bulls have offered Gibson, Mirotic and McDermott for Love.

I can't be the only one who thinks that's a bit OTT? mainly because it basically guts your SF depth to solely Dunleavy. Laughing
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Post by dmize Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:07 pm

It won't let me start a Yahoo Fantasy League for another month or so probably. But Dani start thinking of the League Name, that is your prize for winning last year :coffee:


Been playing Yahoo Fantasy Baseball the last few months, been killing it. Started off the season winning 13 straight weeks, before I finally lost my first last week(only cause Tanaka the gawd got injured). Was up 20 games on the 2nd place guy before that.http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1/113633/8


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:11 pm

When does the season actually start again? i forgot Laughing

Going away for first 2 and half weeks in September and i really can't be arsed following it while im out the country lol.

In any case i think i'll probably start gauging interest before then, be nice if we can get a full league of people who consistently keep up to date this time.

Just to be clear for those put off by time, it really doesn't take that long. Laughing

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Post by dmize Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:12 pm

I don't want to up the MLB thread, but this Jordan commercial for Jeter is one of the best sports commercials I've seen. Even if you don't know the sport.
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