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Post by RED Sat 12 Jul - 15:02:53

Killing innocent people, especially kids, and getting away with it. Again.

These bastards are going to get what's coming to them. In this life or the next.
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Post by Mamad Sat 12 Jul - 15:42:45

Didn't you hear? they are DEFENDING themselves  :facepalm: .
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Post by McLewis Sat 12 Jul - 15:52:37

Been trying to follow the latest news from this region. Was this latest round of violence not started because Hamas killed 3 innocent kids who wondered too far from home? Israel were always going to retaliate to something like that. This is obviously not the right way to respond to something like this, but should we really expect cooler heads to prevail among so much hot-headedness?
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Post by Freeza Sat 12 Jul - 15:57:13

The last week something like 98 Palestinians have lost their lives while only 3 Israelis have lost theirs. Palestine has no army, and the Israeli army which is sponsored by USA is killing defenseless people... this is despicable. Something needs to be done here.
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Post by McLewis Sat 12 Jul - 16:06:03

Honestly, Obama and Netanyahu are not on the best of terms. Haven't been for some time. This has greatly pissed off the Republicans, who feel we should be supporting Israel completely in everything they do. So while the USA will outwardly say they support Israel, the truth is, we have not supported them anywhere near as much as the Bush Administration did.

This appears to be a repeat of what we've seen before. A rogue terrorist group that just so happens to be Palestinian kills some Israelis and instead of trying to target that group specifically, Israel takes the more general approach to retaliation. I think that's the problem here.

Why are they not working with the Palestinian government to root out and eliminate Hamas as a threat? Is that something the Palestinians would even entertain the idea of doing?

Perhaps it's my own ignorance of the politics of this region, but I feel like there's room for both sides to find diplomatic solutions. They're just content to ignore them.
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Post by Freeza Sat 12 Jul - 16:10:45

I think there is too much hate between the population of both these populations to even start a conversation. Palestine would probably help any other government than Israel's is this happened, but the fact that they feel Israel has robbed them of their home country (rightfully so to an extent) makes the possibility of cooperation impossible.
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Post by Mamad Sat 12 Jul - 16:37:23

Israel are the terrorists. they kidnap a kid and burn him alive and call Hamas terrorists....

It's funny, Israel is sucking the life out of some people, destroying their home and country, and says if you fight back with some mini rockets we will bomb you and kill your children, and people blame Hamas.
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Post by TalkingReckless Sat 12 Jul - 17:08:38

This a good response i found on reddit

Problem is, everyone including Hamas knows what will happen when it stops its rocket attacks. This is not something new. This happened 2 years ago as well. There is a temporary ceasefire, the world goes back to not caring, and then starts a pretty farce of a round of negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians. Meanwhile, Israel goes back to expanding and consolidating its illegal territories (before you downvote, USA have pretty much condemned Israel for this as well), while Hamas goes back to stockpiling missiles and arms.

Do you really expect Hamas then to just lay around and accept encroachment on Palestinian territory then? It is quite a vicious cycle here. And Israel has as much to blame for these frequent spikes in violence as does Hamas. But unfortunately, any views expressing even slightly perceived anti-Israel stance is downvoted to oblivion here, so yeah.
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Post by RealGunner Sat 12 Jul - 21:14:33

Israel is the biggest terrorist nation on earth. Puts Al Qaeda to shame.

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Post by RealGunner Sat 12 Jul - 21:16:07

McLewis wrote:Been trying to follow the latest news from this region. Was this latest round of violence not started because Hamas killed 3 innocent kids who wondered too far from home? Israel were always going to retaliate to something like that. This is obviously not the right way to respond to something like this, but should we really expect cooler heads to prevail among so much hot-headedness?


There was no trial for it. Hamas denied any responsibility which they could be lying about or not. But it was never proved that Hamas actually kidnapped or killed those 3 teenagers.

This is a pretty good article

http://www.sott.net/article/281706-Psychopathic-Morality-The-Truth-Behind-the-Kidnapping-and-Murder-of-3-Israeli-Teens
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Post by McAgger Sat 12 Jul - 21:24:26

The other day I watched a video of a Palestinian baby being dug out of a pile of rubble after an explosion. Still alive. Some men dug him out with their hands.

That image right there is everything that's wrong with the world today. Hope everybody responsible dies a horrible horrible death.
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Post by MJ Tue 15 Jul - 13:00:39

It's funny how people think this was the result of 3 Israeli kids being killed when they were killed in retaliation of 5 Palestinian kids being killed, who did it is up for grabs, nothing necessarily indicates Hamas but Israel will see it how they like and blame who they want.

Wake up and smell the coffee. The death toll in Gaza is going to push past 200.

200, imagine that, imagine a movie theater full of men women and children slaughtered for no apparent reason, no good enough reason if there's ever a good reason to kill someone.

And they're going to get away with it again, it's going to get brushed under the rug once again because "Israel is defending itself" and you're anti-semitic if you criticize the terrorist zionist state.

The most ironic happening of all time is the state of Israel birthed through the world's sympathy to the holocaust succeeds Nazi Germany in becoming the next racist, discriminatory, murdering police state.
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Post by Winter is Coming Tue 15 Jul - 17:45:03

IMO right now all these nations are poking a sleeping beast. The day all these muslim country decide to join forces, along with Saudi/Dubai who will also fund them the world will be for a rude awakening.
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Post by RED Tue 15 Jul - 18:12:54

The terrorist state has come out today and told more lies, saying that Hamas has rejected peace talks. Hamas has stated that they are unaware of any such actions.

More lies from the terrorist piece of sh*t state to fuel and justify their massacre.

There is no available words in the dictionary to express how much hatred and disgust I have for this country. None at all. The day will come when this rogue state will pay for their decades of crime on innocent civilians and the genocide they are commiting. The day this terrorist state is wiped off the map, I'll be in the front row celebrating.
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Post by MJ Tue 15 Jul - 18:31:05

I usually find it weak to try to discredit someone or invalidate claims by comparing them to views held by Hitler, but God dammit if they don't make it too easy.

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Post by Pedram Tue 15 Jul - 18:38:04

Seems like they are trying to make a Holocaust version of their own against the poor Palestinians.
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Post by RED Tue 15 Jul - 18:51:13

That whore represents everything evil and wicked about that scum terrorist settler state.

She will eat those words soon, in the same mouth she eats something else every night. Whore.

Please, also, can you spoiler that image. I nearly puked looking at her face.
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Post by Kaladin Tue 15 Jul - 19:24:46

Absolutely inhuman what's happening there. Its even unbelievable that a human being, can even say something like that woman above said.
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Post by RealGunner Tue 15 Jul - 20:53:02

Winter is Coming wrote:IMO right now all these nations are poking a sleeping beast. The day all these muslim country decide to join forces, along with Saudi/Dubai who will also fund them the world will be for a rude awakening.


Nope, that's wishful thinking. Saudi will never interfere and nor with any wealthy Middle Eastern country.
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Post by MJ Tue 15 Jul - 21:03:44

Neither Islam nor Arabic is as motivating a factor as people would think for uniting.

The UAR proved as much, albeit on a smaller scale and during more pressing times.

A Moroccan has nothing in common with a Lebanese in terms of heritage, loose cultural and lingual ties, same with a Lebanese to a Saudi or a Syrian to a Libyan etc.
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Post by Pedram Tue 15 Jul - 21:14:52

Mideast countries joining together against Israel will never happen, first because every western country will back up Israel in a war, second because Israel is the only country in the middle east who has nuclear weapons, and not just a few, a lots of them. if it happens that Israel feel they're surrounded from all sides, for its own survival they will resort to nuclear attacks and will turn Mideast into radioactive wasteland.
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Post by Mamad Tue 15 Jul - 21:43:11

The problem is superpowers and their media. as long as the media supports Israel and feeds twisted facts to people ( specially in US and Europe ) there will be no consequence for Israels crimes.

about the countries in middle east, Saudi and countries like Saudi are friends with Israel. not publicly though. they are too Dependant to go against Israel.

The only country who has been against Israel is Iran and the consequence has been wars and sanctions.

As long as super powers support Israel they will keep killing and destroying the homes of innocent people.
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Post by KevinNYC Tue 15 Jul - 22:34:12

Americans tend to support Israel because of government propaganda (through the media) but I don't because if you look beyond rhetoric and simply check the facts, its obvious who is the real victim in these constant wars and atrocities. Don't get me wrong, Hamas is not exactly an angelic organization either. However, there have been hundreds of deaths caused by Israel in this most recent ridiculous conflict and it is not an even war at all.

It is always innocent people who will suffer the consequences of war. However, it wouldn't be nearly as bad if people (and governments) actually stood up to Israel and put their foot down.

But then again, I hate to say it, but we Americans should probably focus on cleaning up our own government first before worrying about something going on half way across the world. However, one of those things that needs to be reexamined is our countries unapologetic support of Israel.

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Post by MJ Tue 15 Jul - 23:41:44

Part of the US cleaning up it's own act would come with re-allocating its budget spent on making Israel the world's most terrifying war machine.

Billions per year to kill innocent men, women and children? To deny human beings basic rights and dehumanize millions so that you can force them out and take their land, creating a country filled only with your race?

Someday people will look back at the similarities between Nazi Germany and Israel and be disgusted at how quickly people turn to repeat past mistakes.
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Post by KevinNYC Tue 15 Jul - 23:47:30

Part of the US cleaning up it's own act would come with re-allocating its budget spent on making Israel the world's most terrifying war machine.

I agree. That is what I meant by the last paragraph of my post.

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