Gaza Crisis Thread II
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Re: Gaza Crisis Thread II
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Gaza Crisis Thread II
Sky News Newsdesk @SkyNewsBreak 5m
A new 72-hour ceasefire in #Gaza has begun from 10pm UK time after Israel and Hamas agreed to enter indirect negotiations in Cairo tomorrow
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It looks like the fight is genuinely coming to an end.
A new 72-hour ceasefire in #Gaza has begun from 10pm UK time after Israel and Hamas agreed to enter indirect negotiations in Cairo tomorrow
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It looks like the fight is genuinely coming to an end.
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Re: Gaza Crisis Thread II
Isn't this like the 3rd ceasefire?
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Last 2 lasted about 20 minutes combined.
This one seems genuine since the fighting at both ends has slowed down anyways.
This one seems genuine since the fighting at both ends has slowed down anyways.
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I went to the demo on Saturday. Incredible turn out. About 150k people turned up.
People of all background. Saw many Jews too.
I even captured footage of Pedro Pascal (oberyn) from GoT. He was waving a Free Palestine flag from his hotel window in a show of support.
was a great feeling.
People of all background. Saw many Jews too.
I even captured footage of Pedro Pascal (oberyn) from GoT. He was waving a Free Palestine flag from his hotel window in a show of support.
was a great feeling.
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Re: Gaza Crisis Thread II
Israelis' quandary: How to aid Gazans but not Hamas
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/11/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid/13887853/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/08/11/israel-gaza-humanitarian-aid/13887853/
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- JERUSALEM — When the Rev. Raed Abusahliah, director of the Catholic humanitarian aid group Caritas Jerusalem, sought donations of food, clothing and other vital supplies for Gazans, he hoped for generous support from Christians and Muslims eager to help their beleaguered brethren recover from the destruction left by Israel's conflict with Hamas militants.
What Abusahliah didn't anticipate was the outpouring of support from Israeli Jews, who he said constituted about half of the 600-700 donors to the campaign. "I admit that I am somewhat surprised," the Palestinian Catholic priest said. "Many Jews have also sent us messages of solidarity and offers of everything from baby clothes to blood donations."
As a new cease-fire was holding Monday while Israel and Hamas seek a longer-term truce, the casualties of the war have confronted many Israelis with a dilemma: how to help Gaza's civilians without boosting Hamas.
The Israeli government said it lost 64 soldiers and three civilians. The United Nations has tallied more than 1,900 Gazan deaths, including 448 children and nearly 1,000 other civilians. An additional 250,000 Gazans have been left homeless, according to the Palestinian Health Ministry. (Israel claims nearly half the Palestinian deaths were Hamas fighters.)
While polls in Israel show that a vast majority of Jews believe the Israel Defense Forces had no choice but to shell Gaza to stop nearly 3,500 Hamas rocket attacks over the past five weeks, "that doesn't mean we believe the civilians in Gaza are the enemy," said Angy Shavit, one of the Jews who promoted Cariatas' campaign through social media.
Shavit, who is politically left wing, said many of her Palestinian friends in Gaza relayed their need for toilet paper, diapers, baby formula and eye drops.
After spending time at St. Anthony's Church in Jaffa, where cartons full of sugar, flour, bottled water, diapers, baby wipes and other essentials with Hebrew lettering were piled high, Shavit surmised that most of the Jewish Israelis donating "don't feel guilty" about Israel's military operation against Hamas, which the United States, European Union and Israel classify as a terror organization. "It's just that when a baby needs diapers you donate diapers."
This and other initiatives, such as an effort by peace activist Gershon Baskin to buy surplus potatoes in Israel to donate to the people of Gaza, however, have their critics in Israel.
"I've received many phone calls from people who didn't understand why we would be funding 'terror' or people who are afraid these donations will end up in Hamas' hands," Shavit said. "But Hamas's tunnels won't be built with diapers."
Shavit said some callers insist there can be no shortages in Gaza because of all the humanitarian aid Israel and Egypt have been allowing into the impoverished Gaza Strip.
Aid organizations such as Caritas Jerusalem say the deliveries fall far short of meeting the needs in Gaza, where the main power station and most bakeries and factories were destroyed during the war.
"The situation is terrible everywhere in Gaza," Abusahliah said.
The distrust about aiding Gazans is not just in Israel. An Israeli women's organization that is donating large amounts of items for new mothers and their babies did not want its name mentioned for fear Hamas officials who govern Gaza will reject the contributions if they know they were donated almost entirely by Jewish Israelis. So they are being delivered by a third party.
Hamas is not permitting Palestinians to be treated at an Israeli military field hospital and its blood bank politely declined Israeli blood donation offers.
Abusahliah said every donation is vital regardless of its source. Caritas, which also launched an international campaign to raise nearly $2 million, is providing medical supplies to the hospital run by the Anglican church, operating a medical clinic and providing food and other assistance to the 3,000 people who have taken refuge in Gaza's Christian institutions.
Only 1,311 Christians live in Gaza, so the vast majority of the organization's aid is going to needy Muslims, he said. "All Palestinians are suffering. We make no distinctions based on religion."
Kathleen Saba, a Palestinian Israeli who donated to Caritas, said it is "heart-warming" to see Christians, Muslims and Jews pull together for the people of Gaza. "This is what giving is supposed to be," she said.
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Re: Gaza Crisis Thread II
Palestinian delegation head, Azzam Al Ahmad, says new ceasefire extended until MONDAY - that's 5 day/120 hour extension - starting in 15mins
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Hmm getting somewhere. Hopefully it's all over within few weeks.
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Hmm getting somewhere. Hopefully it's all over within few weeks.
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Re: Gaza Crisis Thread II
This threads a ghost town after it got locked.
Anyway;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/palestinians-say-israeli-strike-hit-home-of-top-hamas-commander-in-gaza/2014/08/20/435bfcda-285d-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html
Ceasefire broken, Hamas say it was Israel creating pretext for assignation attempt of Hamas leader, killing his infant child and wife instead. Israel say Hamas fired some rockets first.
So Israel respond to Rockets fired from position X, Y, Z by bombing what they believed to be the residence of the Hamas leader.. I know which sounds more likely.
Anyway;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/palestinians-say-israeli-strike-hit-home-of-top-hamas-commander-in-gaza/2014/08/20/435bfcda-285d-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html
Ceasefire broken, Hamas say it was Israel creating pretext for assignation attempt of Hamas leader, killing his infant child and wife instead. Israel say Hamas fired some rockets first.
So Israel respond to Rockets fired from position X, Y, Z by bombing what they believed to be the residence of the Hamas leader.. I know which sounds more likely.
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Re: Gaza Crisis Thread II
A long-term ceasefire has been agreed between Israel and Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28939350
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Looks like it's over. Thankfully.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28939350
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Looks like it's over. Thankfully.
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Wonderful news.
R.I.P to all the innocent Palestinian kids, women and men who were murdered by the Zionist terrorist.
It may be over, for now, or how it's generally viewed as "paused", but one small glimmer of positive, if you can call it that, is that through social media, those who were oblivious to the Palestinian-Israel conflict now know who the real enemy is. Those who were fed propaganda by zionist run western media now know who the real evil is. Thanks to the internet, especially Twitter, Facebook, IG, Youtube and Whatsapp.
Farah Baker (check her out on Twitter) broke the news on my timeline. I'm so happy right now.
R.I.P to all the innocent Palestinian kids, women and men who were murdered by the Zionist terrorist.
It may be over, for now, or how it's generally viewed as "paused", but one small glimmer of positive, if you can call it that, is that through social media, those who were oblivious to the Palestinian-Israel conflict now know who the real enemy is. Those who were fed propaganda by zionist run western media now know who the real evil is. Thanks to the internet, especially Twitter, Facebook, IG, Youtube and Whatsapp.
Farah Baker (check her out on Twitter) broke the news on my timeline. I'm so happy right now.
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Glad to hear it is over. Wonder why this is being viewed by the Palestinians as a victory on their part. Anyone have any thoughts?
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arabprince wrote:Glad to hear it is over. Wonder why this is being viewed by the Palestinians as a victory on their part. Anyone have any thoughts?
Because the Israeli tried to wipe them off completely. The victory is that they are still alive, and still in their land. Israel failed to accomplish what they intended.
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still survived after been bombed by super high-tech, super "precise" army
yes, palestine can called theirs as victory
yes, palestine can called theirs as victory
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arabprince wrote:Glad to hear it is over. Wonder why this is being viewed by the Palestinians as a victory on their part. Anyone have any thoughts?
It is a victory for Palestine because Israel, after all their indiscriminate murder of 2,139men, women and children, ultimately achieved nothing from their assaults.
All they did was tarnish their self-purported, contrived image as a victim cornered and surrounded by uncivilised barbarians.
Any Israeli citizen with any sense of decency left in them, should see this latest assault for what it was and denounce their illegitimate state and migrate back to where they came from.
OR push for reform (overhaul) of government policy.
I hope the military aid is reduced and whoever is left that clearly has no decency can rot for all I care.
Anyway I am quite sure neither will happen. Military Aid will continue and we will go full circle in a few years time. Israel's probably fairly useful to the US with the rise of the Islamic State.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/09/israel_s_illegal_land_grab_in_west_bank_the_israeli_rationale_is_no_different.html
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israel did not have "peace" word in their dictionary
so sad
so sad
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[Expressly against forum rules. - RO]
Remember, this is just a 'pause'.
Anyways, in the meantime...
Remember, this is just a 'pause'.
Anyways, in the meantime...
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The truce seems to be holding, for some weeks now. Any idea about actual development or to what end the negotiations are directed!!!
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Israel proposes nationality that would officially make non-Jewish people 2nd class citizens (although many argue that is already the case):
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/03/a-country-that-never-wanted-me/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/03/a-country-that-never-wanted-me/
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:Israel proposes nationality that would officially make non-Jewish people 2nd class citizens (although many argue that is already the case):
http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/03/a-country-that-never-wanted-me/
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UN Security Council rejects Palestinian resolution
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30639764
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30639764
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I remember I did this in grade 10 history, but I probably didn't pay enough attention.
What is the point of veto powers exactly. Why have a vote between multiple parties when there is one who has the power to overturn it all at the end? Basically, you just have to wait for the party who has the veto to make a decision and accept it and not bother yourself any further by voting.
Someone enlighten me.
What is the point of veto powers exactly. Why have a vote between multiple parties when there is one who has the power to overturn it all at the end? Basically, you just have to wait for the party who has the veto to make a decision and accept it and not bother yourself any further by voting.
Someone enlighten me.
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Both sides need to be able to compromise and make hard choices if there's going to be a truly meaningful resolution here. There's going to have to be some give and take in these negotiations and I don't think that there was enough of that with this resolution. That much I agree with our envoy on.
As for your question, El G....the short answer? The UN system is a trainwreck of a system that is fixed in favor of the few most powerful countries to the detriment of the smaller ones. Simply put.
As for your question, El G....the short answer? The UN system is a trainwreck of a system that is fixed in favor of the few most powerful countries to the detriment of the smaller ones. Simply put.
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As long as Nathanyahu is in reign there won't be any compromise.
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Peccadillo wrote:
All they did was tarnish their self-purported, contrived image as a victim cornered and surrounded by uncivilised barbarians.
And now the Palestinians are doing their bloody best to restore that image
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