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Post by breva Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:23 am

This manager has better players available than Conte had. Ventura has no charisma and not only effectively lacks intellect, he looks the part of someone lacking intellect. I am doubtful that Italy will get the World Cup next year, but if they do, they will drop out in the group stage.

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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:49 pm

You seeing those odds for italy to win rincon?

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Post by rincon Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:04 pm

What are the?
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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:05 pm

1.53

100% italy win tbh.
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Post by rincon Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:08 pm

Nice,gonna get on that.
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Post by rincon Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:12 pm

I think Barzagli got injured.

I'm reading something like this:

Buffon; Spinazzola, Chiellini, Bonucci, Darmian; Gagliardini, Parolo; Insigne, Immobile, Eder, Candreva

Hopefully they woke up and play properly.
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Post by breva Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:20 pm

The funny thing, Albanian fans are writing on a Facebook page (in Italian) say that they are excited to finally see the Italian National team in person. They don't realize that they can actually win this game with the team Ventura has out there. As I said, the guy is a dummy. A two man midfield with two inexperienced players and only one barely decent is a formula for defeat.
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Post by Luca Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:21 pm

Eder starting in 2017

Candreva will shatter the crossing record tonight

I saw rumours of Bernardeschi starting, knew it wouldn't happen

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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:28 pm

Spinazzola has been on loan since 2012 lmao. Juve ffs
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Post by rincon Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:43 pm

Really looking forward to Eder's goal and Immobile scoring from Candreva's cross.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:02 pm

How are Italy doing?
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Post by breva Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:04 pm

I can see an Albanian late goal winning this one. One of the worst Italian teams I've ever seen.
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Post by breva Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:16 pm

Italy very lucky. 3 shots on target and one is a goal. Albania has had 6 I think.
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Post by rincon Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:35 pm

The U21's win 4-0 against Morroco. Doing great again.

Parigini 25, Cutrone 38, Bonazzoli 65, Vido

Italy (first half): Audero; Calabria, Romagna, Mancini, Pezzella, Locatelli, Murgia, Parigini, Cutrone, Favili, Chiesa

Italy (second half): Audero; Adjapong, Capradossi, Mancini, Pezzella, Pessina, Valzania, Depaoli, Bonazzoli, Vido, Orsolini

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Post by Luca Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:24 pm

Ventura looking at the possible matches and envisioning his 4-2-4

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Post by giovanni_milan Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:29 pm

I think Sweden is one of the better draws we could have, i feared either of the other three options would be a very nail biting 180 mins of Catenaccio

Praying to the gods that ibra decides to stay retired

however, a serious Italy team would be nice for a change

Ventura will not do that, but i want to see this team with a healthy mid and defence at least for the tie

if we bottle this i dont know what ill do

Save us Immobile
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Post by Luca Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:38 pm

Sweden was the best of the four teams we could have faced ffs

Not good

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Post by Warrior Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:09 pm

Would have been a formality to qualify if the coach wasn't Mr. Clueless himself, now there is a little suspense. Without too many injuries and with the proper formation (which is 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1), Italy is far above. Like Giovanni said, be serious for once and everything should be ok.

Greece was the worst scenario.
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Post by M99 Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:12 pm

Yikes, Sweden is the one team from Pot 2 that I think can beat Italy.
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Post by rincon Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:17 pm

With some players back I wish (and hope) that Ventura will go back to a reliable system and play something like a 3-4-3 inistead of a 4-2-4.

There will be not much time to test new things like the 4-3-3, so go with a system that has the most players in familiar roles as they play in the clubs.

Bonucci in the middle of a back 3, Insigne as a forward, Immobile as lone CF, Spinazzola as a wing back, etc.

Buffon; Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli; Spinazzola, De Rossi, Verratti, Florenzi; Insigne, Immobile, Candreva

Darmian could be in for either wingback.

They should be able to win this.
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Post by Warrior Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:19 pm

Who are their best players ? Forsberg, but after that ?

i wonder if Juve legend Ekdal is still called for the NT hmm
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Post by rincon Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:29 pm

Berg was legit for them, no clue if he still plays.
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Post by Warrior Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Never heard of him Laughing

ForsBERG wannabe imo
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Post by Robespierre Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:43 pm

Sweden was the worst team we could face

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Beatable though
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Post by Luca Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:53 pm

I think the only good part is that in contrast with the other 3 teams we could have faced, Sweden will actually come to play against Italy. Historically, we elevate our level when we play decent teams.

I'm fully expecting a 4-2-4 away to Sweden with a dominant 2-1 loss, then a 1-0 win in Italy. The stuff of dreams.

We can win but this is a tough match and I wouldn't be surprised at all if we do lose. If we carry on from the group, then we absolutely will lose.

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Post by giovanni_milan Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:51 pm

I think historically we elevate ourselves (or lower) to any team, be it gibraltar or spain we will pay close attention to their style and know that going into the game

See Cyrpus-Italy 4-3 or more recently the macedonia and albania series

But then also remember how we played very well against many teams in the euro

I honestly did not want Greece or the two Irish contestants, all three of them would press the hell out of us and esp. greece would sit back just like we would. Sweden is fair and i think that if they hold out in the first leg then it will be easy business in Milan
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