Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 16

by Pedram Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:49 am

Yohan Modric wrote:CM Punk leaving, production crew leaving, WWE network not doing well, talent not getting paid and the quality of the product the worst it's ever been. WWE to go out of business by the end of 2014 imo.

Calma Triple H got this.

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:51 am

It's almost as if MT works for TNA

by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:07 am

I do.

I want WWE to fail so it improves again. hmm

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:13 am

WWE out of business won't improve anyone.

by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:17 am

WWE will improve if they're on the verge of going out of business imo. They have potential to offer a better product, but they don't because they're doing adequately financially.

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:28 am

If they are on the verge of going out of business then they will clear out half the roster and backroom staff lol. TNA etc will buy the wrestlers/staff with offering better packages.

Vince is a genius and so was his dad. WWe will never see those times thankfully.

The product is fine.

by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:25 am

TNA won't be able to afford anyone from WWE, let alone offer them better packages. hmm

WWE will take risks and improve the product if they're on the verge of going out of business. For anyone who has watched WWE in the past, compared to then WWE nowadays is awful.

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:26 am

different times, different audience.

by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:29 am

I'm sure there's people who watched WWE 20 years ago that still watch now. hmm

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:33 am

not literally you pleb. Figuratively. Obviously wwe lifelong fans will always watch it, even if Bryan and Rollins are main eventing every year.

But WWE have been changing the product to newer fans for last few years. That's where the money is at. More women and children are into wwe than ever before. They like the segments which you hate on. They like the wrestlers you hate on.

No one is going to drop reigns or Cena because you don't like them.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:55 am

RealGunner wrote:not literally you pleb. Figuratively. Obviously wwe lifelong fans will always watch it, even if Bryan and Rollins are main eventing every year.

But WWE have been changing the product to newer fans for last few years. That's where the money is at. More women and children are into wwe than ever before. They like the segments which you hate on. They like the wrestlers you hate on.

No one is going to drop reigns or Cena because you don't like them.

It's easy to tell at exactly which post mt infuriated you and you snapped Proud

by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:01 am

WWE have been changing the product to cater to kids and women, which is why it sucks. hmm

WWE know they can offer better than this, but they're playing it safe with all the sponsors etc they have.

Why was the product PG in 1995 and why did the ratings etc improve once the attitude era started? Because it was geared towards young adults, not women and kids.

Obviously WWE have no competition nowadays so they don't need to put a good product out. They can play it safe knowing that people will watch, because WWE to most people is the only wrestling to watch. Now if WWE was on the verge of going out of business, they'd have to improve and take risks again. hmm

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:07 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
RealGunner wrote:not literally you pleb. Figuratively. Obviously wwe lifelong fans will always watch it, even if Bryan and Rollins are main eventing every year.

But WWE have been changing the product to newer fans for last few years. That's where the money is at. More women and children are into wwe than ever before. They like the segments which you hate on. They like the wrestlers you hate on.

No one is going to drop reigns or Cena because you don't like them.

It's easy to tell at exactly which post mt infuriated you and you snapped

pls go. Mt is me. I am mt.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:11 am

I can relate to that

Ich bin Germany, und Germany ist meine.

by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:12 am

Rg turning heel on me. hmm

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:12 am

Yohan Modric wrote:WWE have been changing the product to cater to kids and women, which is why it sucks.

WWE know they can offer better than this, but they're playing it safe with all the sponsors etc they have.

Why was the product PG in 1995 and why did the ratings etc improve once the attitude era started? Because it was geared towards young adults, not women and kids.

Obviously WWE have no competition nowadays so they don't need to put a good product out. They can play it safe knowing that people will watch, because WWE to most people is the only wrestling to watch. Now if WWE was on the verge of going out of business, they'd have to improve and take risks again.

Which will never happen. Not in this age.

I don't know about 1995. But I can take a guess and say Rock, Austin and co were not there at that time and wrestlers who no one gives a shit about like Jeff Jarrett, Bob Holly and Davey Boy Smith( Laughing

).

WWe have miles better entertainers now. Rightly or Wrongly. El Shitty Cow entertains kids. Star Dust entertains star wars fans and Reigns entertains women. Cena entertains young teens. Bo entertains everyone. Bray entertains Tom and other hippies

It's a complete product, eventhough if its shit for you or me. It makes money.

RAW is house full every week. So is smackdown. So are all the house shows.

Vince is a genius. WWE will live for another 100 years.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:13 am

Gtfo u absolute pos, u just mad Cena has a few years left in him max.

Bob Holly > John Cena

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:17 am

just realised Bob Holly was hardcore Holly. Still irrelevant. Ziggler would be more over than him

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:18 am

I thought they were brothers

I am sure there was 2 of them

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:24 am

brb searching "Irrelevant brothers in WWe history"

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:26 am

RealGunner wrote:brb searching "Irrelevant brothers in WWe history"

"You see that Jimmy? He's talking about us dawg"

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by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:27 am

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

rofl

ffs A grade banter. This is why i get out of bed early at 7pm

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:32 am

dat crack addict sleeping pattern Proud

Banter makes it all worth it though, and tbh it's half *bleep* 4 so i'm off to bed Laughing

by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:32 am

It doesn't matter if WWE have better entertainers nowadays. It's not the roster that's the problem. It's the actual product. If prime WCW existed right now, who would get better ratings, WWE or them? Clearly WCW. Would WWE improve if WCW existed right now? Yes they would. Would that imply the product isn't good enough? Clearly.

But right now they have no competition, so they play it safe and cater to kids and women, which is why it sucks. As I said, to most people WWE is the only game in town. TNA doesn't exist. So regardless of how poor the product is, people will still watch. That's how they make money. They have no competition and they do what's adequate. The product right now could be better, but they don't need to make it better.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:36 am

Imo WWE should take a different approach if they're struggling

Let the kids have their segments, but give the older generation more of a reason to watch

Each freaking RAW is over 3 hours long, they should cram in some more attitude era, give us more gimmick matches likes TLC and all that, and give us some crazy moments.

by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:55 am

Yohan Modric wrote:It doesn't matter if WWE have better entertainers nowadays. It's not the roster that's the problem. It's the actual product. If prime WCW existed right now, who would get better ratings, WWE or them? Clearly WCW. Would WWE improve if WCW existed right now? Yes they would. Would that imply the product isn't good enough? Clearly.

But right now they have no competition, so they play it safe and cater to kids and women, which is why it sucks. As I said, to most people WWE is the only game in town. TNA doesn't exist. So regardless of how poor the product is, people will still watch. That's how they make money. They have no competition and they do what's adequate. The product right now could be better, but they don't need to make it better.

Running the Company this way is the reason why WCW doesn't exist and why TNA is trash lol. Vince has done it all. He has no competition because he killed it. Now he is making money because of that. It's different times man. You just have to live with it. You are living in the past.

There will be NO other WCW ever again. Vine has made sure of that. This is how WWe will be unless RAW etc are getting Serie A attendance and people completely stop watching it on TV. And they won't. Because as bad as the product might be, it's still entertaining for people.

back in the days, wrestling was the shit. It wasn't sports entertainment but pure wrestling. Top class matches all around. Because it was the peak of wrestling. Same in Attitude Adjustment era. People would boo the shit out of el shittyco n co because they wanted hardcore blood filled gore wrestling. But that won't work today. All the kids will be gone. All the women will be gone.

But, you might ask if it will get new people in? No it won't because people actually know wrestling is fake compared to the 90s etc as everyone thought people actually wanted to kill each other.

niccah, times, they are a changing.

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