Re: Barcelona given 2 transfer periods transfer ban by FIFA

by MaraVilla Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:54 pm

really hope ter stegen's still coming. What a colossal fk up.

by Kick Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:54 pm

I could see Valdes re-signing a contract with this in mind.

by fatman123 Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:56 pm

Kick wrote:I could see Valdes re-signing a contract with this in mind.

Thats what i was thinking, unless of course Valdes had already signed for a new club and just handt announced it yet hmm

by mr-r34 Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:56 pm

So the whole thong with chelsea was they weren't found not guilty they just coughed out money to push it under the rug.

If barca did it with 10 players, wouldnt this just make it much much harder for them to sweep it under the rug?

by Forza Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:57 pm

Kick wrote:I could see Valdes re-signing a contract with this in mind.

Of course, he will now be entitled to write a blank cheque for himself because Barca can't sign anymore players and his contract is expiring. 10m wages a year Proud

by fatman123 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:00 pm

mr-r34 wrote:So the whole thong with chelsea was they weren't found not guilty they just coughed out money to push it under the rug.

In short; yes.

Although given that the crux of Lens' argument was that Chelsea coaxed Kakuta into breaking a legally binding agreement (his pre contract) which turned out to have no legal weight or binding capacity, it really didnt look like Lens had a leg to stand on. That of course doesnt excuse Chelaea of ethical misconduct, but thats not the issue at hand here

by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:01 pm

This is an april fool joke is it? too good to be believed.

by harhar11 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:02 pm

But seriously, I fking hate Rosell & co.

by S Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:02 pm

Mole ,i think its 2 transfer periods as opposed to 2 years(which would make it 4 transfer periods then).

At worst it'll get reduced to one transfer period on appeal imo.

by fatman123 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:02 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:This is an april fool joke is it? too good to be believed.

Its on FIFAs website, so i highly doubt it

by Mr Nick09 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:06 pm

the ban only goes to 2015? that's not two years, pos thread

by S Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:06 pm

GuillemBalague
@GuillemBalague

About FCB. Sanction is for two consecutive transfer windows (Jan and summer 2015). Club plans 2 appeal. Chelsea did so in 2010 and similar sanction was lifted

Summer 2015 ? scratch

by cyberman Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:07 pm

Why would it be overturned?
Chelsea were cleared of any wrong doing.. Lens made a big deal of a non binding contract and Chelsea paid them off to get them out of the way. Happens all the time in transfer fees..you think Ronaldo would've cost 80m if they didn't piss off United?
This case is different. Barca have broke the rules in black and white and unless they can prove it's a team full of misunderstandings.. They will be punished.
All they can do is appeal and try to sign somebody before it's handed down.. I doubt it tho.
Which top player will join now?
If you were a top player you'd jwait till the ban is served.. How can anyone have a long term vision for the club if the next player they can sign is the season after next?

by M99 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:07 pm

S wrote:Mole ,i think its 2 transfer periods as opposed to 2 years(which would make it 4 transfer periods then).

At worst it'll get reduced to one transfer period on appeal imo.

You are right, it was me who wrote two years. Apologies.

So they are banned from summer 2014 and winter 2015 transfer windows. That's one full season of no new players. I am pretty sure they can sell players right?

by fatman123 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:08 pm

The scene is primed for SF to return Proud

by Limpakulli Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:08 pm

by M99 Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:11 pm

Kick wrote:I could see Valdes re-signing a contract with this in mind.

Yo kicky can you change the thread title? It was mistake from me, it's two windows, not two years bounce

by Cassius Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:12 pm

Who are the players in question that have been unlawfully signed?

by S Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:14 pm

Barca have like 10 illegal cases apparently.This will be difficult to get out of.

by Limpakulli Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:16 pm

Who are those 10 players exactly?

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:17 pm

This is actually something that has raised eyebrows at the Barca section before, so I'm not entirely surprised about this. Here is the relevant rule:

I don't see how Messi's case is exempt from those three rules as well.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Article 19 Protection of minors

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/01/06/30/78/statusinhalt_en_122007.pdf

1. International transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over
the age of 18.
2. The following three exceptions to this rule apply:
a) The player’s parents move to the country in which the new club is
located for reasons not linked to football;
b) The transfer takes place within the territory of the European
Union (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) and the player
is aged between 16 and 18. In this case, the new club must fulfi l
the following minimum obligations:
i) It shall provide the player with an adequate football education
and/or training in line with the highest national standards.
ii) It shall guarantee the player an academic and/or school and/or
vocational education and/or training, in addition to his football
education and/or training, which will allow the player to pursue
a career other than football should he cease playing professional
football.
iii) It shall make all necessary arrangements to ensure that
the player is looked after in the best possible way (optimum
living standards with a host family or in club accommodation,
appointment of a mentor at the club, etc.).
iv) It shall, on registration of such a player, provide the
relevant association with proof that it is complying with the
aforementioned obligations;
c) The player lives no further than 50km from a national border
and the club with which the player wishes to be registered in the
neighbouring association is also within 50km of that border. The
maximum distance between the player’s domicile and the club’s
headquarters shall be 100km. In such cases, the player must
continue to live at home and the two associations concerned must
give their explicit consent.
3. The conditions of this article shall also apply to any player who has
never previously been registered with a club and is not a national of
the country in which he wishes to be registered for the fi rst time.
4. Each association shall ensure the respect of this provision by its clubs.
5. The Players’ Status Committee shall be competent to decide on
any dispute arising in relation to these matters and shall impose
appropriate sanctions in the event of violations of this provision.

by S Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:19 pm

M99 wrote:
S wrote:Mole ,i think its 2 transfer periods as opposed to 2 years(which would make it 4 transfer periods then).

At worst it'll get reduced to one transfer period on appeal imo.

You are right, it was me who wrote two years. Apologies.

So they are banned from summer 2014 and winter 2015 transfer windows. That's one full season of no new players. I am pretty sure they can sell players right?

I think they cant sell players either or thats what i'm reading.

by sportsczy Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:20 pm

It's both buying and selling players btw... not just buying. Complete transfer ban. Nobody is allowed to do business with Barca for the next 2 periods.

by Collblanc Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:22 pm

sportsczy wrote:It's both buying and selling players btw... not just buying. Complete transfer ban. Nobody is allowed to do business with Barca for the next 2 periods.

..until the decision is final. If we appeal we can buy/sell in the next window. Watch us spend 120m+

by sportsczy Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:23 pm

And the Chelsea ban was overturned because the legal basis for it was proven wrong. The pre-contract between Chelsea and the player was not a legally binding contract. So the ban on Chelsea was deemed illegal and, thus, overturned since there was no legal contract to sanction. Lens was going to file a civil lawsuit and the civil case was settled between Chelsea and Lens... the monetary settlement had nothing to do with FIFA or UEFA.

Apples and oranges.

Barca would have to prove that the legal basis for the ban is incorrect to get it overturned. Since it involves more than 10 players, i highly doubt that's possible.

by cyberman Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:28 pm

If barca appeal it will be heard before the transfer window opens.
If not, you don't spend 120m on players in a short period of time lol. Players would rape you in wages and the clubs would sit back and let you desperately up the asking price

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