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Post by Juveman17 Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:56 am

conte blew it when he put on pogba for osvaldo :facepalm:

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Post by dronte Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:57 am

Conte shows his inability to step up for Europe once again. This is downright depressing. We are far from being eliminated, 1-0 would have been a good score for us, but to be honest, I didn't expect too much from Gio-Osvaldo partnership, let alone our defense. I have no problems with Ogbonna or Caceres individually but Fiorentina got deadly players who could expose any minor mistake (Cuadrado, Gomez for example).

Also, we can't play like that in Europe, the match was extremely boring after the first 20 mins.

But the WORST moment, after we concede, Conte brings on Padoin. Seriously, this f*cks up my mind badly.

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Post by dronte Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:59 am

Juveman17 wrote:conte blew it when he put on pogba for osvaldo :facepalm:
Actually that was a totally legit sub, Osvaldo didn't do much in the whole match while Pogba is perfect for both holding the ball and counter attacking (just check what he almost scored right after a few minutes).

But Padoin..

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Post by GIGItheBest Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:59 am

Conte Shouldn't have subbed Osvaldo for Pogba, he should've took Pirlo off for Pogba and Lichsteiner for Isla a bit earlier. This was a very bad score line because now we have to go to their stadium and score a goal
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Post by salmano9 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:00 am

What so fkin negative -,-? And don't give excuses cuz everyone was saying why sont we play ogbonna blah blah blah.... why the fak did he didnt play our regulars and rest them vs genoa? The probability of winning the league is greater than the probability of winning EL

And ya, just look at in CL how we wasted our opportunity by drawing home vs gala... the same thing would happen here. Viola will play for the 0-0 draw. It will be much easier for them now
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Post by Juveman17 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:00 am

dronte wrote:
Juveman17 wrote:conte blew it when he put on pogba for osvaldo :facepalm:
Actually that was a totally legit sub, Osvaldo didn't do much in the whole match while Pogba is perfect for both holding the ball and counter attacking (just check what he almost scored right after a few minutes).

But Padoin..

We needed another forward ffs not a midfeilder. He tried to camp the box and hold the 1-0. Why didnt he put Vucinic on? Or Llorente? We are up by 14 points ffs
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Post by Juveman17 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:01 am

Conte still rests for Serie A :facepalm:

He needs to go after the damn EL title not treat it like it means nothing
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:01 am

Nevermind all that, we sat back after 15 minutes. We're too defense minded. No matter how shitty our opposition is, soon as they attack we go to our counter attacking game plan and refuse to move from it


Fiorentina with half a team and F*CKING AQUILANI at Right mid dictated the play
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Post by salmano9 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:03 am

Fuk this shit really.. its really depressing to see us sit back after scoring a goal
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Post by dronte Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:03 am

Clean sheet is all that matters at home soil. That's why he subbed in Pogba. We scored in every Serie A match since last May, that shouldn't be a problem next week either. We badly missed Tevez though Sad

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Post by Juveman17 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:03 am

But dronte you CANNOT think that we will hold 1-0 for 20 min of a game.......it was a risky move and it cost us in the end
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Post by dronte Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:05 am

I totally agree, it was bad tactics right from the start, but I thought (probably Conte too) that we could hold on for the last 15 minutes. Fiorentina looked tired at that time.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:07 am

Conte in Europe has the most disgusting mentality.... He is Capello JR.


Back then our team was stacked, yet we played the most boring predictable football i've ever seen.

This is happening again.
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Post by lucianomoggi Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:10 am

I think our strikers made a terrible performance; I don't criticize other players because they done really good...

MIDFIELDERS were always creating Chances;

Vidal Scored a GOAL

Strikers were a waste of the time; that is why CONTE put in POGBA for OSVALDO

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Post by GIGItheBest Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:12 am

I just hope we beat them next game/advance because if we get eliminated from the Europa league, we lose money, a trophy and we get made fun of because we couldn't get past the round of 16 in the Europa League. Maybe next game we should play a 4-3-3 with Caceres/Lichsteiner at RB and Asamoah at LB, Giovinco RW and Tevez LW and they can switch in the game if they want to. I also think Marchisio should play instead of Pirlo if his injury isn't serious.
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Post by GIGItheBest Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:13 am

Also, why is it that a bit after we score a goal, our team decides to let them have possession?
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Post by salmano9 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:21 am

GIGItheBest wrote:Also, why is it that a bit after we score a goal, our team decides to let them have possession?

Because Conte's mentality was shit
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:21 am

Let's all blame Padoin for 1-1 draw.
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Post by salmano9 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:22 am

DeviAngel wrote:Let's all blame Padoin for 1-1 draw.

Padoin was shit, he cost us the match ... such a a shitty player.. LOL JK.... It was a dumb sub tho lol
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:26 am

I don't want to see another Juve - Fiorentina thread until Genoa match has passed.
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Post by salmano9 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:27 am

Well, let me see say my statement first:
Don't let your hope up guys, that juve in Europe...
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:33 am

3-5-2

pass back, back again, midfield (> defense)

back to another defender > goalie

> defender like (Mehbgonna) loses his mind, back to goalie

back to midfield back to defender (wasted 10 mins already back and forthing whilst we desperately need to attack)

defender loses his mind shoots long ball at nobody (opposition gets the ball back and builds an effective attack)

or

back back back then back and forth among each other in defense, one defender gets pressed to death (or Pirlo) back passes to Buffon, opposition striker steals the ball and causes damage :facepalm:

today is one of he clear reasons why we need to scrap 3-5-2 it involves our CBs and wingbacks in too much, they fatigue quickly or press high and lose concentration so letting long balls often get the better of them like we saw today :facepalm:

Conte needs to switch and practice the 4-3-3 formation now (with the league 60% won) and next season we need to get some good/quality wingers that can take on their man also, please don't waste 12m (whatever) on Osvaldo we can add some extra money to it and get a quality striker like say (Mandzukic, Jackson Martinez or Dzeko etc)

cos 3-5-2 doesn't work for Llo, 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 for next season, Llo can be back up or if the 4-3-3 proves effective for him then he can start....
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Post by salmano9 Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:35 am

Yes, we must cjange formation. I guess fiorentina read the way we played. This is why they were controlling. I guess we are becoming predictable.
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:49 am

also next week I should make the away thread, baraja spark was clearly missing....
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Post by salmano9 Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:22 am

#BlameSuragForDraw
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:38 am

salmano9 wrote:#BlameSuragForDraw

Surag and mehbgonna....
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