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Post by Onyx Mon 24 Mar 2014 - 19:54

harhar11 wrote:I still think that he is more of a left forward than a winger. Just because you play on the left side, it doesn't mean that you are a winger. In the same way that I wouldn't call Xabi Alonso a DM or Messi when he started, a winger..

There's different types of wingers though. Traditional wingers like Navas, Valencia etc, then players like Ribery/Hazard/Nasri/Mata, goalscorers like Ronaldo, Bale, Walcott, Pedro, Reus etc.

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Post by harhar11 Mon 24 Mar 2014 - 19:58

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harhar11 wrote:I still think that he is more of a left forward than a winger. Just because you play on the left side, it doesn't mean that you are a winger. In the same way that I wouldn't call Xabi Alonso a DM or Messi when he started, a winger..

There's different types of wingers though. Traditional wingers like Navas, Valencia etc, then players like Ribery/Hazard/Nasri/Mata, goalscorers like Ronaldo, Bale, Walcott, Pedro, Reus etc.

Then, according to this, Messi was a winger until 2011? I always considered him a right forward, but seeing as you consider Pedro and Ronaldo a winger, maybe I was wrong?

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Post by Donuts Mon 24 Mar 2014 - 21:23

It's like people forget Mou was the one that lost 5-0 to Barca, right when Ramos came back from winning the world cup along with alonso / iker etc.

so far this year the two classicos have been very close and anyones game.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 21:41

Soooo this is awkward
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Post by Doc Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 22:43

In no uncertain terms: Yes we have become the real deal...
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Post by jibers Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 22:44

Treble is very much on. Watch pathetico slip up :bow:
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Post by Valkyrja Sat 25 Oct 2014 - 23:01

Are Madrid the Real Deal?
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Post by Mamad Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 9:36

So is there anyone who doubts that we are the best team in the world?
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 9:54

Me.
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Post by rwo power Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 10:36

Me too :coffee:
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Post by Mamad Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 11:32

Well then who is better?
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Post by Nishankly Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 12:27

Attacking wise yeah. Midfield is a pair of headless chickens while defending. Defense makes up for some of the lost cause though.

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Post by REWB Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 12:31

Mamad wrote:Well then who is better?


bayern. they have improved, and defensively they are better, so we will see. bayern will not be a naive as last season if they were to face madrid again.
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Post by rwo power Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 12:36

Mamad wrote:Well then who is better?
Well, you need to improve your goalkeeper department big time, then we might talk. ATM that is pretty much a weakness of yours and could cost you.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 12:41

impossible to claim Bayern is better until we have met them again and beat them, or beat a team that kicked them out.
So until proven otherwise, Real is still the best team in Europe.
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Post by sportsczy Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 12:45

Madrid is the best team in the world right now and has been since destroying Bayern and then beating Atleti in the CL.  It's undeniable.

We're even better this season where we're on pace to score 141 goals in La Liga (record is 120 something).  We're not just winning... we're destroying teams.

Iker is not a weak GK.  He's been quite good lately.  His issue is confidence...  he needs complete confidence from his manager.  Carlo has handed him the keys this season and he's showing his worth.  Different story at NT level where he's challenged...  every keeper needs to know he's unquestioned.

As far as the other teams...  Bayern, Chelsea, etc. are nowhere as complete as Madrid.

Just deal with it.  We're the kings and all of you are fawning at our feet.
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Post by chad4401 Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 13:37

how do you smash a team last season, then improved 10x from that time and still be considered worst than the team you smashed?

I don't see bayern better than madrid at anything, you guys were defensively better last season too, who kept the clean sheets? if the teams meet again you lot are conceding 3 more goals

lastly when barca dominates everyone is cool, bayern beats them everyone is cool with them being the best, so why can't everybody just be cool with madrid being the best until proven otherwise?
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Post by Mamad Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 13:53

You tell em guys.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 13:58

who are you actually talking to, chad? Laughing
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 13:59

Bayern better than Madrid lol. We wiped the floor with you recently. Crushing bundesfodder means nothing.
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Post by chad4401 Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 14:00

@haps the other posters who are saying the opposite and fishing for excuses to why rm is not the best
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 14:04

I just wonder if sports will be disappointed if they only score 140 instad of 141 goals hmm
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 14:05

chad4401 wrote:@haps the other posters who are saying the opposite and fishing for excuses to why rm is not the best


ok but why are you telling them "you lot will concede.." Laughing
I'm the only Bayern supporter that has commented on this thread.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 14:06

Hapless_Hans wrote:
chad4401 wrote:@haps the other posters who are saying the opposite and fishing for excuses to why rm is not the best


ok but why are you telling them "you lot will concede.." Laughing
I'm the only Bayern supporter that has commented on this thread.


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Post by chad4401 Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 14:10

i just meant rwo and co, who always back german teams
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Post by sportsczy Tue 4 Nov 2014 - 14:14

Hapless_Hans wrote:I just wonder if sports will be disappointed if they only score 140 instad of 141 goals hmm
I think it's a pace we can't keep anyhow... the La Liga record is 121 (we set it a couple of years ago). We beat that and it's historic enough lol.

Of course, Madrid play in a league that's actually competitive. We can't wrap up the league in March and rest everyone for the CL games like Bayern can... not that it did you much good last season Laughing
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