Re: Are Madrid the Real Deal?

by jibers Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:59 pm

The_Badger wrote:
jibers wrote:Agreed Nick. Varane is really a freak. He is just *bleep* insane at the basics. A defensive prodigy. Ramos won't get benched for political reasons.

People said that about Casillas.

Not anyone with sense.

by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:01 am

If the rumors that Carlo hates Ramos are true, then i think he will consider benching him more often to install Ramos in the position of starter that he deserves. Some tough choice needs to be made, and carlo is paid for that. Perez cant stand Ramos and his stupidity as well, he shouldnt feel stressed at all.

#BenchRamos, i support that, he can go retire at sevilla if he wants.

by The_Badger Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:02 am

jibers wrote:
The_Badger wrote:
jibers wrote:Agreed Nick. Varane is really a freak. He is just *bleep* insane at the basics. A defensive prodigy. Ramos won't get benched for political reasons.

People said that about Casillas.

Not anyone with sense.

jibers, you are my favourite ever human being. I love you more than my own family, but you are talking complete bum cheese here.

There are no political reasons for keeping Ramos in the side.

by jibers Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:14 am

The_Badger wrote:
jibers wrote:
The_Badger wrote:

People said that about Casillas.

Not anyone with sense.

jibers, you are my favourite ever human being. I love you more than my own family, but you are talking complete bum cheese here.

There are no political reasons for keeping Ramos in the side.

by huntsman Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:17 am

Madrid are a fragile team. The heart of Madrid bleeds. They are not champions material but they will become temporary champions.

by RealGunner Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:20 am

Huntsman, can you bring them back?

by Beautiful Football Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:24 am

When Your Star Player play's for himself, You are never going to become great great team.You might become temporary champion. Thats the curse of Ronaldo.
You have to live up with that.

Real Madrid were More of a team even in 2006-2008 despite less talented and win more trophies(important).

by Onyx Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:28 am

What did Ronaldo do wrong?

by Beautiful Football Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:47 am

Yohan Modric wrote:What did Ronaldo do wrong?

Normally Most of the times he does noting apart from scoring goals, Despite he is being winger. He has zero vision, his passing and decision making is not good. He takes 10 shots to score a goal, completely ignoring his team mates. And unbelievably selfish. In-fact he is the most selfish player i have ever seen[for top player]. He is just not my kind of player.

The main Reason i don't like this guy , i believe he plays for himself rather than his team. I never like this type of player never will. Gerard Deulofeu is same type of player and i don't like him, never will unless he change. Even though he is Barcelona's one of the top young player.

by FennecFox7 Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:51 am

OK.. but he didn't play bad.. he wasn't good, but he wasn't like you said either..

by Beautiful Football Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:01 am

Giggity5313 wrote:OK.. but he didn't play bad.. he wasn't good, but he wasn't like you said either..

He was not bad today. but generally he plays like that. Even though he is some how effective. But in big games those small decision will make the diffidence. I am not comparing but some of you believe he and messi are on same level. Just look at messi he has way better decision making and most of the time Messi really come out on top in big games because of that.

I am not saying Messi is not selfish, all CF are but messi has balance when to become selfish when to not.
Anyway i don't want to make another messi vs ronaldo debate.Ronaldo still a great player. Thats my two cents.

by Onyx Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:16 am

Ronaldo doesn't need to be creative though, his job is to score goals. Not every winger has to be the same. Plus tonight he only had a few shots.

However what he does need to do better is track back consistently.

In terms of Messi, it's clear he's always been a better player than Ronaldo. He offers much more than just goals.

by Valkyrja Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:21 am

Ramos won't get benched. The press will go wild and Perez likes him.

by Mamad Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:29 am

Ramos is the cancer. there is no cure.

by harhar11 Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:54 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo doesn't need to be creative though, his job is to score goals. Not every winger has to be the same. Plus tonight he only had a few shots.

However what he does need to do better is track back consistently.

In terms of Messi, it's clear he's always been a better player than Ronaldo. He offers much more than just goals.

True, but that's why I get irritated when people call him a winger. A winger is supposed to take on the fullbacks and cross/create chances for the striker, where as you will see C.Ronaldo making more off the ball runs towards the middle of the box to try and score for himself. If anything he is more of a left forward, in the same way that Messi was a right forward and not a winger at the start of his career. The reason why he stays on the left is because there is more space there and that's what he needs to be what he is.

by Le Samourai Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:55 pm

He tries to be a winger, he's just not very good at it. Just slows us down tbh.

by Onyx Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:24 pm

harhar11 wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Ronaldo doesn't need to be creative though, his job is to score goals. Not every winger has to be the same. Plus tonight he only had a few shots.

However what he does need to do better is track back consistently.

In terms of Messi, it's clear he's always been a better player than Ronaldo. He offers much more than just goals.

True, but that's why I get irritated when people call him a winger. A winger is supposed to take on the fullbacks and cross/create chances for the striker, where as you will see C.Ronaldo making more off the ball runs towards the middle of the box to try and score for himself. If anything, he is more of a left forward, in the same way that Messi was a right forward and not a winger in the start of his career. The reason why he stays on the left is because there is more space there and that's what he needs to be what he is.

Ronaldo is a winger, just not a traditional one.

by harhar11 Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:14 pm

I still think that he is more of a left forward than a winger. Just because you play on the left side, it doesn't mean that you are a winger. In the same way that I wouldn't call Xabi Alonso a DM or Messi when he started, a winger..

by Blue Barrett Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:36 pm

Still can't beat Barca hmm

Guess its not entirely on Mou, then? hmm

by harhar11 Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:43 pm

Or entirely on Tito/Roura :coffee:

by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:45 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:Still can't beat Barca

Guess its not entirely on Mou, then?

well, we pummelled barca last year. actually they won the league without beating us.

by futbol Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:45 pm

harhar11 wrote:Or entirely on Tito/Roura

True. Only season Barca was Mehdrid's punching bag was under Tito managing from the hospital in New York, sending tactics via WhatsApp.

DAT Roura chin though. Sad

by Blue Barrett Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:50 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:Still can't beat Barca

Guess its not entirely on Mou, then?

well, we pummelled barca last year. actually they won the league without beating us.

With Mou.

That's besides the point. I'm focusing on the times you've lost against them in the past 4 years.

There's almost always a large section of Madrid fans that seem to blame Mou for all those losses(kinda hard when your CBs are two headless chickens tbh).

A lot of it is on him, of course, but a lot of it is also on your players. It was just convinient to make Mou the easy target.

Also, a lot of it has to do with....Barca just being better(though not exactly this season). Seems to be a mental block these days against Barca as well.

Maybe its just me reading too much, but that's what I see.

by harhar11 Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:51 pm

Fußball wrote:
harhar11 wrote:Or entirely on Tito/Roura

True. Only season Barca was Mehdrid's punching bag was under Tito managing from the hospital in New York, sending tactics via WhatsApp.

DAT Roura chin though.

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by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:54 pm

Barrett using Mou as a bragging point is not a good idea

It took him till Pep's final game to win one in normal time and the rest of his wins came against a Barca who had already for all intensive purposes won the league and where without a coach.

by Onyx Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:54 pm

harhar11 wrote:I still think that he is more of a left forward than a winger. Just because you play on the left side, it doesn't mean that you are a winger. In the same way that I wouldn't call Xabi Alonso a DM or Messi when he started, a winger..

There's different types of wingers though. Traditional wingers like Navas, Valencia etc, then players like Ribery/Hazard/Nasri/Mata, goalscorers like Ronaldo, Bale, Walcott, Pedro, Reus etc.

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