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Post by Adit Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:15 pm

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Lex wrote:Except Bale has never destroyed Arsenal. Sagna has destroyed Bale in the past, though

Could show the La Liga minnows how to actually defend against one trick ponies hmm

Bale vs Gibbs :hmm:bale watching the deulofeu goal over and over to figure out how to beat him Proud

That was a freak goal. Wasn't a defensive error.

That was a big mistake from Gibbs..he couldnt even cover the second post. Terrible positioning. Koscienly screamed at him for a reason.

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:15 pm

cyberman wrote:pogba was not very good RG. kept giving the ball away and added nothing for cover in attack or defence
yepp I felt this as well

Pogba was supposed to do the pirlo role today and really disappointed. lost many balls and tried to be too smart
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Post by RealGunner Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:16 pm

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cyberman wrote:pogba was not very good RG. kept giving the ball away and added nothing for cover in attack or defence

Agreed cyber.You won the small battle here.

Hmm if S says it then I'll believe it. Must have only see his good bits.
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Post by M99 Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Buffon had to pull of a great save after Pogba stupidly lost the ball. This was not a good showing at all but he still is a fantastic player who was given the wrong role today. Juve really needed a vice Pirlo. They are buying Naingollan six months late.
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Post by McLewis Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Not surprising since Pogba isn't a Pirlo.

If anything, Vidal probably would've been a better fit.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:20 pm

McLewis wrote:Not surprising since Pogba isn't a Pirlo.

If anything, Vidal probably would've been a better fit.

they probably needed vidals goal threat and that wouldn't have happened had he played that far back
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Post by Zealous Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:21 pm

Lex wrote:Except Bale has never destroyed Arsenal. Sagna has destroyed Bale in the past, though

Could show the La Liga minnows how to actually defend against one trick ponies hmm



Yes I see what you mean, the marking is especially tight here hmm

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Post by Forza Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:25 pm

In all seriousness though, I don't think the Gala - Juve game should've ever gone ahead on that pitch. UEFA will surely look into that.
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Post by Lex Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:25 pm

46 seconds = destroying? Laughing

Arsenal have ruined Bale's CL dreams for years. Had to run off to a team already in the comp Laughing

Pls dn't be jell, Zealous bro :coffee:
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Post by McLewis Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:27 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
McLewis wrote:Not surprising since Pogba isn't a Pirlo.

If anything, Vidal probably would've been a better fit.

they probably needed vidals goal threat and that wouldn't have happened had he played that far back

Probably, but that's part of his charm as a complete midfielder though. His versatility was needed today I feel and Conte completely ignored it. Marchisio and Pogba have shown themselves to be capable threatening the goal as well, though admittedly not with Vidal's regularity.

I just think Vidal in the Pirlo role would've provided a more stable base for Juve to break up the play by Sneijder and then start new attacks.
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Post by Forza Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:29 pm

McLewis wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
McLewis wrote:Not surprising since Pogba isn't a Pirlo.

If anything, Vidal probably would've been a better fit.

they probably needed vidals goal threat and that wouldn't have happened had he played that far back

Probably, but that's part of his charm as a complete midfielder though. His versatility was needed today I feel and Conte completely ignored it. Marchisio and Pogba have shown themselves to be capable threatening the goal as well, though admittedly not with Vidal's regularity.

I just think Vidal in the Pirlo role would've provided a more stable base for Juve to break up the play by Sneijder and then start new attacks.
They should've eliminated midfield altogether. 5-0-5. Long ball to the box every time.
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Post by Zealous Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:30 pm

Lex wrote:46 seconds = destroying? Laughing

Arsenal have ruined Bale's CL dreams for years. Had to run off to a team already in the comp Laughing

Pls dn't be jell, Zealous bro :coffee:

Bale will have his day ffs

tbh though I want to avoid Arsenal, at least for now. They can beat anyone atm (except Everton)
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Post by Zealous Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:32 pm

Adit wrote:
RealGunner wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:

Bale vs Gibbs :hmm:bale watching the deulofeu goal over and over to figure out how to beat him Proud

That was a freak goal. Wasn't a defensive error.

That was a big mistake from Gibbs..he couldnt even cover the second post. Terrible positioning. Koscienly screamed at him for a reason.

Gibbs was afraid Delolfu would pass to Coleman who was overlapping.

Szczczc is one at fault imo, at least more than Gibbs.
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Post by Adit Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:35 pm

Zealous wrote:
Adit wrote:
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That was a freak goal. Wasn't a defensive error.

That was a big mistake from Gibbs..he couldnt even cover the second post. Terrible positioning. Koscienly screamed at him for a reason.

Gibbs was afraid Delolfu would pass to Coleman who was overlapping.

Szczczc is one at fault imo, at least more than Gibbs.

if cole man was overlapping then shouldnt Gibbs position even more towards the wings???

There was enough players (like 5 or 6 players) in the center... He couldnt even cover the second post,top players wouldve covered the entire post.

No way that was szesznys fault. I play GK, i can confirm.
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Post by McLewis Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:35 pm

Forza wrote:
McLewis wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
McLewis wrote:Not surprising since Pogba isn't a Pirlo.

If anything, Vidal probably would've been a better fit.

they probably needed vidals goal threat and that wouldn't have happened had he played that far back

Probably, but that's part of his charm as a complete midfielder though. His versatility was needed today I feel and Conte completely ignored it. Marchisio and Pogba have shown themselves to be capable threatening the goal as well, though admittedly not with Vidal's regularity.

I just think Vidal in the Pirlo role would've provided a more stable base for Juve to break up the play by Sneijder and then start new attacks.
They should've eliminated midfield altogether. 5-0-5. Long ball to the box every time.

Heh, given Gala's lack of shape in defense and midfield, that may have worked.

You know Conte though....
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Post by DuringTheWar Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:36 pm

sportsczy wrote: In normal conditions, extremely unlikely that Gala even gets the opportunity to get a late goal.  But with those conditions, it became 50/50.

Drogba just owned the Juve CBs on the hoofs.  That decided the game and a lot of luck.

Exactly, 100% right.

It almost hurts me head that some people think the pitch made no difference because its the same for both teams. It significantly increased galas chances FFS

The stupidity is almost making my head hurt and I don't even give a **** about juve
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:38 pm

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sportsczy wrote: In normal conditions, extremely unlikely that Gala even gets the opportunity to get a late goal.  But with those conditions, it became 50/50.

Drogba just owned the Juve CBs on the hoofs.  That decided the game and a lot of luck.

Exactly, 100% right.

It almost hurts me head that some people think the pitch made no difference because its the same for both teams. It significantly increased galas chances FFS

The stupidity is almost making my head hurt and I don't even give a **** about juve

so what you're saying is, if the pitch were better, Gala wouldn't have been able to hoof the ball to Drogba?
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Post by Firenze Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:40 pm

Completely forgot Juve's game was being played early today, checked flashscores  Laughing 

dat routine win
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:42 pm

Without going into a full on rant, tactics, formations, rolls etc etc meant f*ck all on that pitch. The game should never have been played.


As for the previous games which could have turned out better, that's our fault. 3-5-2 with no attacking midfielder and wing-backs who can't attack is just a nightmare. We have truely fantastic players in the spine of our team, players who are just about all defensive minded.

We need to change our system next Summer, 3-5-2 has taken us as far as it can. Our build-up play is just so 1 dimensional at times that teams 1/10th our quality can neutralise it.
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Post by Zealous Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:42 pm

Adit wrote:
Zealous wrote:
Adit wrote:

That was a big mistake from Gibbs..he couldnt even cover the second post. Terrible positioning. Koscienly screamed at him for a reason.

Gibbs was afraid Delolfu would pass to Coleman who was overlapping.

Szczczc is one at fault imo, at least more than Gibbs.

if cole man was overlapping then shouldnt Gibbs position even more towards the wings???

There was enough players (like 5 or 6 players) in the center... He couldnt even cover the second post,top players wouldve covered the entire post.

No way that was szesznys fault. I play GK, i can confirm.

No, it was a 2v1 in it's purest form. Koscielny and Mertesacker had to stick to Lukaku, leaving only one defender on him in the last minutes was out of the question.

The ball then fell to Delolfu who had Coleman in support, if Gibbs pushes towards Coleman he gives Delolfu a much better angle to shoot. If he sticks to Delolfu too tightly Coleman will be free to cross the ball in front of the face of the goal.

Everton's fullbacks were giving Arsenal a difficult time the entire game, at that time Gibbs absolutely had to be aware of Coleman. I play fullback, i can conform the fullbacks overlap so defenders have to divide their attention between the winger and the fullback.

Delolfu shoots with barely any angle, Szczcz even touches the ball, he has to do better there. Also I believe Rosicky should have been covering Coleman but he was off in the centre somewhere.
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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:42 pm

The pitch factor could've gone either way, if Juve had not approached the game the way they did, they could've scored one earlier and then start defending.
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Post by Zealous Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:47 pm

DuringTheWar wrote:
sportsczy wrote: In normal conditions, extremely unlikely that Gala even gets the opportunity to get a late goal.  But with those conditions, it became 50/50.

Drogba just owned the Juve CBs on the hoofs.  That decided the game and a lot of luck.

Exactly, 100% right.

It almost hurts me head that some people think the pitch made no difference because its the same for both teams. It significantly increased galas chances FFS

The stupidity is almost making my head hurt and I don't even give a **** about juve

Juventus didn't have to win, all they had to do was not lose. Chasing the game on a pitch like that was extremely difficult for Gala, all they could do was hope Drogba could repeat his destruction of Juventus in Italy.

On the flip side almost all the passes Llorente got were to his feet lol, Juventus should have just played long balls towards him but that's not what happened.

Gala adapted better to the conditions imo. Yes they were probably going to hoof it to Drogba anyway, but Juventus could have done the same but they didn't.
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Post by McLewis Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:47 pm

Drogba posted this on his Instagram after the match apparently.

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Awesome pic tbh
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:48 pm

poor mans advert Laughing
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Post by elitedam Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:51 pm

The pitch was horrendous. I guess they cared more about keeping up with the schedule then giving the fans something worth watching. With that being said, analyzing the match is kinda pointless when the field is in that condition.
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Post by Zealous Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:52 pm

McLewis wrote:Drogba posted this on his Instagram after the match apparently.

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Awesome pic tbh

The Expendables 4: Featuring The Drog House and Wesly S
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