Re: Townsend - The second coming of Robben

by RealGunner Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:07 pm

Average player.

by zigra Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:14 pm

I could say he's average at best as that's what I think but instead I think I should do a Harmonica here and rate him as the PLs 24th best player so far this season http://www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/2/Seasons/3853/Stages/7794/PlayerStatistics/England-Premier-League-2013-2014 bounce

by free_cat Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:16 pm

Gil wrote:He's better than Deulofitoasdaof

He is also 3 years older. Let's see where's Deulofeu in 3 years.

by RealGunner Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:17 pm

lol ignore Gil. Deulofeu is better than Townsend. Easily.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:19 pm

Zaha and Towsend have big talent, people putting them down, but you will see soon.

by Eman Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:21 pm

lenear1030 wrote:Never heard of the guy before the NLD and he was Spuds most impressive player to me... He seems the real deal

lenear1030 wrote:He looks like a fusion between Henry & Obertan.

All it takes is one game for an English player to be the next big thing Proud

Don't want to pick on you mate, just using these comments as examples. So much knee-jerk on the first page :bow:

Not that he doesn't have potential, but pls stahp guys. Wait until he has proven that he is a good player before saying that he is the next coming of so many world class players.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:22 pm

Henry and Obertan lolz Laughing

by Busby Babe Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:24 pm

Eman wrote:
lenear1030 wrote:Never heard of the guy before the NLD and he was Spuds most impressive player to me... He seems the real deal
lenear1030 wrote:He looks like a fusion between Henry & Obertan.
All it takes is one game for an English player to be the next big thing

Don't want to pick on you mate, just using these comments as examples. So much knee-jerk on the first page

Not that he doesn't have potential, but pls stahp guys. Wait until he has proven that he is a good player before saying that he is the next coming of so many world class players.

In reference to Henry and Obertan I think he was talking about Townsend's facial appearance not style of play

by Eman Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:27 pm

^Perhaps. The man would have a point hmm

I've seen so many pundits putting Townsend ahead of Walcott in England's best XI for the World Cup over the past few weeks :facepalm:

. Proves that many people will jump on a hype bandwagon without any problem before they will ever give Theo Walcott any credit.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:33 pm

Tbf Eman and i have said this to RG before ( don't think he liked it tbh Laughing

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Walcott hardly ever performs for England and so far Townsend has been pretty good for England he's nowhere near the player however.

I'd actually have Oxlade over both of them considering their performances for England.... but he's never going to be fit again is he :facepalm:

by Gil Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:49 pm

Oxlade, Zaha and Townsend are all alot more talented than Deulofeu.

by Eman Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:50 pm

You do have a point Mole, but I think we would agree that Theo is one of England's most talented individual players. Unless he is struggling to adjust to a different system than Arsenal's, I would think that the better player would start in the long-run between him and Townsend. Theo has been injured during Townsend's run of caps, so it's not like he has been given an opportunity to fight for his place. Assuming that Townsend will keep him out of the side is a stretch for me.

I guess Townsend deserves to play while he is performing, but Theo's coming for him :coffee:

by Kick Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:39 pm

Kick wrote:I really don't rate the guy, every time I see him he seems to be a very poor mans bale/Robben.

I don't think he'll ever hit the heights of those two either.

by Donuts Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:43 pm

I like Gils sudden obsession over deaulofeu Smile

by CBarca Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:50 pm

Townsend has great raw ability.

Unfortunately unaware that passing is a big part of the game, unaware that he isn't Bale and shouldn't take shots to waste possession hoping one will go in (because it won't), he's definitely unaware that running yourself into a corner is bad, and doesn't know what combination play is.

Still, I feel like all of this can be improved with maturity and the right coaching. But to say he doesn't have talent is wrong, he has plenty of talent, he just misuses it because he's got rocks for a brain.

I actually think he should go on the left right now. Makes his job more simple and he doesn't have to over think and do stupid crap whenever he cuts in. His job there can be to get to stay out wide, get to the sideline, beat his man and get the cross in to Soldado and/or Paulinho or whoever is in the middle. That he can do effectively.

Infuriating player to watch given the ability he possesses.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:27 pm

lennon never improved it, i have little hope for towsend

by Motogp69 Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:19 pm

Well, so far Lennon has looked well above his form from last year since coming back form injury, but it's a small sample size so we'll see how things look a few games from now.

Sounds like Townsend was a force on the left wing today, but consider the competition. I'm hoping to watch the game on my flight home tomorrow night so I'll post my thoughts then.

All I know is I heard Soldado finally got the service we've been asking for and he put two in the back of the net as a result of it :bow:

by CBarca Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:08 pm

Anzhi is terrible team. Nobody should take anything away from the game other than Soldado can indeed finish, which everyone knows, and it's a good confidence booster for the Spurs.

by Red Alert Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:15 pm

Kick wrote:
Kick wrote:I really don't rate the guy, every time I see him he seems to be a very poor mans bale/Robben.

I don't think he'll ever hit the heights of those two either.

Bale was at the same level when they were both 22...

People forget Bale has only been "special" for around a year now.

by Gil Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:26 am

Red Alert wrote:
Kick wrote:
Kick wrote:I really don't rate the guy, every time I see him he seems to be a very poor mans bale/Robben.

I don't think he'll ever hit the heights of those two either.

Bale was at the same level when they were both 22...

People forget Bale has only been "special" for around a year now.

What are you on about? Bale has been special ever since Redknapp moved him to LW in the 2nd half of 09/10 season. He was the main reason Spurs qualified for the CL that year.

by M99 Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:16 am

Gil wrote:Oxlade, Zaha and Townsend are all alot more talented than Deulofeu.

Hyping the wrong players. Barkley, Shaw and Ward Prowse are legit.

by Red Alert Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:58 am

Gil wrote:
Red Alert wrote:
Kick wrote:

Bale was at the same level when they were both 22...

People forget Bale has only been "special" for around a year now.

What are you on about? Bale has been special ever since Redknapp moved him to LW in the 2nd half of 09/10 season. He was the main reason Spurs qualified for the CL that year.

He was "good" not "special".

He was at Walcott's level ffs.

by zigra Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:12 am

Bale was very good in 11/12 and "special" (imo wrong word but whatever) in 12/13 only. Before that he was good but not more.
10 goals and 7 assists in the league in 09/10 and 10/11 combined. And as a winger the end product does matter.

by Gil Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:55 am

M99 wrote:
Gil wrote:Oxlade, Zaha and Townsend are all alot more talented than Deulofeu.

Hyping the wrong players. Barkley, Shaw and Ward Prowse are legit.

Point still stands. Those three players will go on to have better careers than Deulofeu who is a supersub at best.

by Gil Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:06 am

Red Alert wrote:

He was "good" not "special".

He was at Walcott's level ffs.

zigra wrote:Bale was very good in 11/12 and "special" (imo wrong word but whatever) in 12/13 only. Before that he was good but not more.
10 goals and 7 assists in the league in 09/10 and 10/11 combined. And as a winger the end product does matter.

Since when did Goals and assists = performances?

If you can't see why someone would label Bale "special" long before last season then you're both clueless.

Walcott level ffs. Theo is a "wide striker", Bale is much more rounded as a player.

by zigra Fri Dec 13, 2013 8:45 am

Not in general but Bale is worth as much as his goals and assists and he certainly wasn't "special" back then. Maybe you think one could see his potential back then? I'd agree with that.

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