Is Mesut Ozil the best player in the PL?

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Post by Nishankly Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:23 pm

MJGunner wrote:I'm just gonna make sure I read what you two are saying correctly. Mesut Özil isn't better than Aaron Ramsey. Coming from a fervent Ramsey supporter, you just said he's a better player than Mesut Özil.

There's a very big difference between form and talent, if you play like Ramsey has been for a matter of seasons, not months, then we can talk about talent. Never thought I'd see the day.  Shocked 

You didnt read it properly.

First list was based on both form and "talent" for this season.

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Post by RealGunner Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:25 pm

Red Alert wrote:No you're not.

You're claiming I've stated Ramsey is superior to Ozil; I never said that. I said he's having a better season. There's a difference. You can't automatically be the best player in the league because of hype.

Ozil has been in the league for 7 months now. He's not even been the best player at Arsenal in those 7 months. So how can you state he's the best in the league?

We signed Ozil in June ? scratch
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Post by MJ Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:09 pm

You very rarely have more talent one season than you do the next, not a substantial difference. Talent is over a matter of seasons and Özil has only been here for four months, I've been kind of embarrassed to correct you because I thought that was just a bad typo  hmm 
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Post by Red Alert Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:04 am

RealGunner wrote:
Red Alert wrote:No you're not.

You're claiming I've stated Ramsey is superior to Ozil; I never said that. I said he's having a better season. There's a difference. You can't automatically be the best player in the league because of hype.

Ozil has been in the league for 7 months now. He's not even been the best player at Arsenal in those 7 months. So how can you state he's the best in the league?

We signed Ozil in June ? scratch

End of August, apologies.

Again, not denying his class, I just can't claim him as the best player in the league just because he's played for Madrid. He's done well at Arsenal, but he hasn't exactly done anything to warrant him as the best in the PL. Not when Aguero, Suarez, Rooney and Yaya have out performed him and they're all in the same tier of talent. Maybe you could add David Silva too...
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Post by futbol Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:55 am

€ 50 million. Laughing Someone bought the Mehdrid fan hype. Laughing

Chelsea, City, Yanited, Napoli, Dortmund. Did he even play those games? Got 2 assists against Cardiff though. 60 minute Mesut. :bow:

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Post by MJ Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:12 am

He got a goal and assist vs Napoli, no one showed up vs United, no one did anything vs Chelsea on both sides, he got an assist vs City and and was very good against Dortmund creating the chance that led to Ramsey's goal.

Maybe you should know your stuff first.
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Post by Nishankly Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:33 pm

MJGunner wrote:You very rarely have more talent one season than you do the next, not a substantial difference. Talent is over a matter of seasons and Özil has only been here for four months, I've been kind of embarrassed to correct you because I thought that was just a bad typo  hmm 

You're going the wrong way, We ( At least I if this reply was for me) dont give a shit about other seasons.
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Post by MJ Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:37 pm

Then this thread is "Who is the most in-form player this season" and that's obviously not Özil.

The way the question is asked seems to indicate talent because if I were to have been asked that two months ago I wouldn't have said Ramsey just because he was in godly form, I would have to think about who had been consistently performing at a very high level for at least a season or two, not four months.
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Post by Motogp69 Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:17 am

The joy of "who is the best" threads, they never die before they become ironic :coffee:
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Post by 3lite Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:03 am

World class again after the FA match.

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:52 pm

3lite wrote:World class again after the FA match.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:23 pm

Lol at this thread

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