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Post by El Gunner Sat May 17, 2014 9:30 pm

Rambo!
What a guy!
What a player!

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sun May 18, 2014 12:16 am

Are we playing the 'Let's bump this thread when Ramsey scores a goal' game?

Both different players, both ridiculously talented. Depends what you want from your midfielder.

But,

Brb gonna make a Luca Toni Vs Messi thread and bump it every time Luca Toni scores.
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Post by Onyx Sun May 18, 2014 12:19 am

We don't need either of them, so hopefully we don't make any unnecessary transfers.

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sun May 18, 2014 10:22 pm

If Khedira goes.. which is a complete possibility, I would still take either one of Ramsey or Pogba

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Post by jibers Sun May 18, 2014 10:52 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Are we playing the 'Let's bump this thread when Ramsey scores a goal' game?

Both different players, both ridiculously talented. Depends what you want from your midfielder.

But,

Brb gonna make a Luca Toni Vs Messi thread and bump it every time Luca Toni scores.

Yea not getting what Lex is on about tbh.
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Post by RealGunner Sun May 18, 2014 11:30 pm

Agreed
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Post by Lex Mon May 19, 2014 1:16 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Are we playing the 'Let's bump this thread when Ramsey scores a goal' game?
I don't remember bumping this thread every week though hmm
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon May 19, 2014 1:45 am

Was aimed at all y'all
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon May 19, 2014 7:51 am

vanDEEZ wrote:If Khedira goes.. which is a complete possibility, I would still take either one of Ramsey or Pogba

we will get rakitic if khedira leaves and I am perfectly fine with that
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Post by jibers Mon May 19, 2014 11:04 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
vanDEEZ wrote:If Khedira goes.. which is a complete possibility, I would still take either one of Ramsey or Pogba

we will get rakitic if khedira leaves and I am perfectly fine with that

Rakitic will be perfect. He will get the ball so quickly and accurately to your forwards that things could get scary. A ball winner with Rakitic and Illara behind would be perfect. Who would be the best ball winner for you? Martinez would be the perfect player but Bayern will not give him up.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon May 19, 2014 11:17 am

I have always considered Illarra as an excellent ball winner. I don't know the stats but even as a CM half the time he has won the ball the most in our team after Pepe. But if we were to go after a DM then I wouldn't mind luiz gustavo. Martinez is unobtainable and would be too expensive anyways. we need alot of depth next season especially if we win CL because we are going to play alot of games. We need 2 midfielders at least
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Post by Killer Wed May 21, 2014 12:23 pm

Pogba has more talent and is more skillful.

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Post by Valkyrja Wed May 21, 2014 5:07 pm

Khedira will stay. Carlo likes him too much and he is different from any midfielder we have. We need another one. Ramsey or Rakitic hopefully.
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Post by McAgger Wed May 21, 2014 5:17 pm

Jesus, Illara is so overrated. The most average player on that Madrid squad.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed May 21, 2014 5:23 pm

No he is not. He is a very good player, but he is trapped into a situation where he hasnt played anything close to what he has done at La Real all season. You can say that he is not very adaptable, that's a better criticism. But truth is that playing Interior or defensive pivot is not natural to him, so us going 433 has seen him struggled for the most part of the year. If you dont play him enough minutes to get him used to his role, and ask him to back up in the most stressful situations, of course it's not going to work.

saying that he is overrated blablabla is a cheap comment
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed May 21, 2014 5:38 pm

Illarra's problem is that he has not been played in his preferred position alot this season and people are basing their opinions of him from two very recent games in which he didn't have the best of games playing as a CM.

Carlo has played him as a CM because we are short on those, while for Carlo this is a good short term strategy until he gets a back up CM it has made people draw conclusions about Illarra based on his performances there eventhough he is a CDM. For some people it's mindboggling how a CDM can't perform as the CM but it's very simple, they have got different skillsets and Illarra's skillsets fits the CDM role he has played all his life.

This is like asking Motta, Bosquets, Martinez or Gabi to play CMs it just won't happen and they are going to be left horribly exposed and people ate going to start calling them overrated and whatnot, the reality is that some players especially the defensive ones are made to play one position only even if they are very good passers because their style of play is different from that of the CMs and vice versa, you can't make a CM play at CDM because the same would happen with them
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Post by sportsczy Wed May 21, 2014 5:47 pm

I think Illara was overrated in terms of physical ability and raw football talent... his ceiling is just not that high imo. But he can be good if played in his preferred role. He''s not capable of doing the job in all the CM roles... very few are. Pretty much limited to the role he played at LaReal. I actually felt that way before he came in so i wasn't that shocked in this regards. Madrid just deceived themselves here.

The part that did suprise me is that he's so timid on the pitch. He just seems afraid to take any risks. This part is on him completely...
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Post by Arquitecto Wed May 21, 2014 8:00 pm

Sports, Illara in LaReal played in a 4-2-1-3 /4-2-3-1 in the two of the Montanier pivot.

That was partnered with Ansotegi, who covered the more physical role for him, he doesn't get that at Madrid.

He also has not thrived in a 3 man midfield to which he was always replaced for Pardo during Montanier's occasional 4-3-3. So far he's thrived on being the crux of the midfield with ample freedom.

The combination of that added with the fact that agree his breakthrough year and being bought for a GRAND sum to Real Madrid; will naturally extend the time he takes to adapt. You know this.

Hence why he is completely different in playing mannerism right to what he was in Sociedad.




Edit: FANTASTIC posts by Nick and HalaAtlético. You guys are on fire lately.

I just don't see how Sports doesn't share the same perspective.
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Post by FilthyLuca Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:57 pm

Lex wrote:I love polishing this thread off Thumbs up

As do I.

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Post by jibers Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:01 pm

FilthyLuca wrote:
Lex wrote:I love polishing this thread off Thumbs up

As do I.


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