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Post by El Jefe Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:03 am

^ That.

Nothing against Ramsey, clearly a very good player with a lot of potential, but he's got to do this over at least a year or two before being considered up there with the best.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:46 am

Pogba ffs wow

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Post by FilthyLuca Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:36 am

cyberman wrote:Ramsey.
The aspects that pogba excels at is at a higher level, but he hasnt the attitude to develop into an all round player.
Ramsey has that attitude.
You base this off what?
What has he done or said to make you think he doesn't have the attitude?
that his hair looks like Balotellis?
Or that he dared ask for a move away from united?

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:29 am

Lol this attitude nonsense is ridiculous

He's had no attitude problems to speak of.

What he wanted to take £1,000,000 per season and regular 1st team football as opposed to 4 cup games a year and a bunch of games infront of 50 people in a local park against some reserves. Not to mention his wage would have been pitiful compared to first team footballers.


Football is a short career, why should he wait until Fergie finally notices him? What happens if he gets a career ending injury? He's left with hardly any money and the highlight of his career was coming on for some poverty minutes in a cup game.

Yeah, Pogba you evil, evil man. How dare you do what's best for your career and life?
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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:32 am

Very different players.  Pogba has forced Conte to bench Marchisio... think about that for a second.  He's also an undisputed starter for France NT now... think about that too given how many holding mids France can choose from.

He's played out of position too... but he's handling it because it helps the team.  As Pogba put it today in the presser for NT:  "At Juve, i play more of an attacking position.  At NT, they ask me to play a more defensive role.  It doesn't matter to me.  As long as i'm on the pitch, i'm happy."

His natural position is to play the Patrick Vieira role...

As far as Ramsey, he showed flashes at the end of last season and he's put it together to start this season.  He doesn't have all the tools that Pogba has...  but he's very opportunistic.  Basically a scoring version of what Jack Wilshere was a couple of seasons ago.


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Post by ExtremistEnigma Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:43 am

Man Utd could've had both of these players at present.. let that sink in for a moment. Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:14 am

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Man Utd could've had both of these players at present.. let that sink in for a moment. Laughing
It's pretty Ironic that SAF built his empire on trusting Man U youth players and then finished his career by shunning them... midfielders too, which is even more baffling.
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Post by Doc Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:30 am

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Man Utd could've had both of these players at present.. let that sink in for a moment. Laughing
Oh yeah, totally forgot Utd was very interested in Ramsey. Can't remember who turned down who though and well, Pobga was their loss honestly.

As for the debate, Pogba for me. Nothing about talent as they are both quite talented in their own right, simply a "I like that player more" sort of thing.
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Post by jibers Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:50 am

sportsczy wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:Man Utd could've had both of these players at present.. let that sink in for a moment. Laughing
 It's pretty Ironic that SAF built his empire on trusting Man U youth players and then finished his career by shunning them...  midfielders too, which is even more baffling.
Not really, he knew the end was near and he shafted long term vision with short term fixes. RVP should never have been brought in with kagawa bought as well. The Rooney drama was his fault
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Post by ExtremistEnigma Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:03 pm

Or maybe he wanted to leave the club in a turmoil.. getting rid of interesting prospects and not developing young talent, having a squad that lacks hunger, naming a second rate manager as his successor, so that no manager would be able to repeat his success, thereby making himself look bigger than the club for eternity? Ramsey vs Pogba - Page 2 Lulcas11
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:05 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:Or maybe he wanted to leave the club in a turmoil.. getting rid of interesting prospects and not developing young talent, having a squad that lacks hunger, naming a second rate manager as his successor, so that no manager would be able to repeat his success, thereby making himself look bigger than the club for eternity? Ramsey vs Pogba - Page 2 Lulcas11

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Post by jibers Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:24 am

Pogba's ceiling is *bleep* ridiculous. He will be the undisputed best MF in a few years. I reckon his ceiling could be close to Zidane's if I'm honest. We gave up on this kid and now we have Fellaini :facepalm:

Thanks SAF
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:37 am

jibers wrote:Pogba's ceiling is *bleep* ridiculous. He will be the undisputed best MF in a few years. I reckon his ceiling could be close to Zidane's if I'm honest. We gave up on this kid and now we have Fellaini :facepalm:

Thanks SAF
You realize that in a few years the likes of Gundogan and Thiago will be in their primes ? Cut off the bulshit, Pogba isn't on these guys level.

btw, cut that Zidane phrase please.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:38 am

Pogba isn't getting anywhere close to his so called ceiling if he keeps being a lazy *bleep* and offering zilch defensively.

At this point he's a Yaya clone.
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Post by jibers Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:39 am

Valkyrja wrote:
jibers wrote:Pogba's ceiling is *bleep* ridiculous. He will be the undisputed best MF in a few years. I reckon his ceiling could be close to Zidane's if I'm honest. We gave up on this kid and now we have Fellaini :facepalm:

Thanks SAF
You realize that in a few years the likes of Gundogan and Thiago will be in their primes ? Cut off the bulshit, Pogba isn't on these guys level.

btw, cut that Zidane phrase please.
Thiago? rofl

Please stop. Pogba is better than Thiago. Thiago wouldn't get into France's mf. Thiago wouldn't start for Juve. Gundogan and pogba are different players.
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:42 am

jibers wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:
jibers wrote:Pogba's ceiling is *bleep* ridiculous. He will be the undisputed best MF in a few years. I reckon his ceiling could be close to Zidane's if I'm honest. We gave up on this kid and now we have Fellaini :facepalm:

Thanks SAF
You realize that in a few years the likes of Gundogan and Thiago will be in their primes ? Cut off the bulshit, Pogba isn't on these guys level.

btw, cut that Zidane phrase please.
1.Thiago? rofl

2.Please stop. Pogba is better than Thiago. Thiago wouldn't get into France's mf. 3.Thiago wouldn't start for Juve. 4.Gundogan and pogba are different players.
1. Thiago is better than Pogba
2. Thiago wouldn't get in France's MF ? rofl
3. That's because he is suitable to Pirlo's role
4. You said "the best undisputed MF" :facepalm:
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Post by FilthyLuca Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:43 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Pogba isn't getting anywhere close to his so called ceiling if he keeps being a lazy *bleep* and offering zilch defensively.

At this point he's a Yaya clone.
Honestly, if you haven't watched him play, dont make absolute statements like that. you sound ignorant.

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Post by FilthyLuca Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:47 am

Valkyrja wrote:
jibers wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:You realize that in a few years the likes of Gundogan and Thiago will be in their primes ? Cut off the bulshit, Pogba isn't on these guys level.

btw, cut that Zidane phrase please.
1.Thiago? rofl

2.Please stop. Pogba is better than Thiago. Thiago wouldn't get into France's mf. 3.Thiago wouldn't start for Juve. 4.Gundogan and pogba are different players.
1. Thiago is better than Pogba
2. Thiago wouldn't get in France's MF ? rofl
3. That's because he is suitable to Pirlo's role
4. You said "the best undisputed MF" :facepalm:
oh ok, since you put it that way.


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Post by jibers Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:48 am

Valkyrja wrote:
jibers wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:You realize that in a few years the likes of Gundogan and Thiago will be in their primes ? Cut off the bulshit, Pogba isn't on these guys level.

btw, cut that Zidane phrase please.
1.Thiago? rofl

2.Please stop. Pogba is better than Thiago. Thiago wouldn't get into France's mf. 3.Thiago wouldn't start for Juve. 4.Gundogan and pogba are different players.
1. Thiago is better than Pogba
2. Thiago wouldn't get in France's MF ? rofl
3. That's because he is suitable to Pirlo's role
4. You said "the best undisputed MF" :facepalm:
Thiago is definitely NOT better than POGBA. What has he done exactly?
Fine he will be one of the best players in Europe. You happy?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:51 am

Aye i have never watched Juventus play.... never ever.

Listen son, you are going to come here with better comebacks he's said negatively about my player SO HE MUST HAVE NEVER SEEN him play.

Look here's the facts Pogba is a ridiculously talented footballer on the ball he's ridiculous.... but off the ball he has a lot to learn he doesn't track his runners and doesn't offer anywhere enough defensively to get the hype he recieves.

But yep i've never seen him play..... such a tired response that is used by clueless idiots when they have no response.

Next time actually tell me why i'm wrong instead of boring me with.... wawaaawaawa you don't watch him play wawawaawaawa.
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Post by FilthyLuca Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:53 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Aye i have never watched Juventus play.... never ever.

Listen son, you are going to come here with better comebacks he's said negatively about my player SO HE MUST HAVE NEVER SEEN him play.

Look here's the facts Pogba is a ridiculously talented footballer on the ball he's ridiculous.... but off the ball he has a lot to learn he doesn't track his runners and doesn't offer anywhere enough defensively to get the hype he recieves.

But yep i've never seen him play..... such a tired response that is used by clueless idiots when they have no response.

Next time actually tell me why i'm wrong instead of boring me with.... wawaaawaawa you don't watch him play wawawaawaawa.
You don't play on Juventus if you don't track back and mark. PERIOD. Conte will let you rot on the bench. So NO YOU HAVENT watched Juventus play.

And Thiago doesn't even play. and the one game he played he was mediocre.  So or you to say he's on another level than Pogba shows your ignorance.

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Post by jibers Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:54 am

I agree with Mole. That is one of the reasons I was skeptical about how he would do in a 2 man pivote like we play. He loses his marker quit often but he is improving game by game. TBH i doubt that aspect of his game will improve drastically as he always has cover from either Vidal or Pirlo. Still a valid point by Scousma...Mole...Sad
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Post by jibers Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:55 am

jibers wrote:I agree with Mole. That is one of the reasons I was skeptical about how he would do in a 2 man pivote like we play. He loses his marker quit often but he is improving game by game. TBH i doubt that aspect of his game will improve drastically as he always has cover from either Vidal or Pirlo. Still a valid point by Scousma...Mole...Sad
Dude sometimes Pogba let's players run by. No need to go mental ffs. It is what it is. And where did mole say Thiago was better than Pogba ???
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Post by FilthyLuca Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:58 am

no ones going mental, he's full of it.

And I admit I did get confused with the other poster on the Thiago stuff.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:02 am

Ok Laughing

Ask anyone on this forum and they will tell you i do watch Juventus.... they are on TV almost every other week lol.

Because i'm not blinded to Pogba's imperfections like you don't mean i'm wrong..... he's lazy off the ball and doesn't track his runners.... Conte clearly doesn't let him rot on the bench because he's starting every week despite these imperfections.

I never said he's awful there btw but has a lot to learn to before he can be the next Vieira or best MF in the world etc etc....

Compared to Marchisio and Vidal he's very very lazy and can be seen caught ball watching many many games as well as the standard not tracking his runners.

Off the ball his intelligence also needs a lot of improvement before he can be spoke about in such terms.... as i said on the ball he's an offensive juggernaut but off the ball compared to the other elite CMs he has a lot to learn.

Now run along kid.
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Post by FilthyLuca Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:05 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Ok Laughing

Ask anyone on this forum and they will tell you i do watch Juventus.... they are on TV almost every other week lol.

Because i'm not blinded to Pogba's imperfections like you don't mean i'm wrong..... he's lazy off the ball and doesn't track his runners.... Conte clearly doesn't let him rot on the bench because he's starting every week despite these imperfections.

I never said he's awful there btw but has a lot to learn to before he can be the next Vieira or best MF in the world etc etc....

Compared to Marchisio and Vidal he's very very lazy and can be seen caught ball watching many many games as well as the standard not tracking his runners.


Off the ball his intelligence also needs a lot of improvement before he can be spoke about in such terms.... as i said on the ball he's an offensive juggernaut but off the ball compared to the other elite CMs he has a lot to learn.

Now run along kid.
Whohohoa....BURN!

whatever you say buddy, ok compared to Vidal and Marchisio, two BBMs known for their hustle hes lazy so therefore hes " a lazy *bleep* who offers zilch defensively".

but yeah make it seem like im blinded blah blah blah

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