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Post by S Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:31 pm

Who is more talented out of the two or rather ,who would you have out of the two ?

I hope to hear more opinions from Non-Arsenal and Juventus fans.

And please dont come with this 'different roles,different system' BS.They play similar roles in their respective teams as far as i'm concerned.
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Post by REWB Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:08 pm

pogba has always looked incredibly lazy to me, am i wrong about this?? i hate lazy midfielders, thats why i dont like yaya toure, and i didnt like song.
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Post by jibers Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:15 pm

Ramsey. Ramsey's talent is ridiculous. Could have played at this level long ago were it not for that injury he suffered against stoke. Not that much in it.
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:27 pm

Ramsey by far, every way you take it. Have always seen him as better than Wilshere too.
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Post by LeBéninois Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:48 pm

More takented out of the two ? i don't know but i'm pretty impressed by Pogba. Someone above pointed out that he seems lazy like Yaya but you can't expect players with that body to be able to move like ramsey, Essien, vidal etc ...

Right now i'd take Ramsey but if i had to choose one for a long term i'd go with Paul. Hard choice though.
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Post by Dante Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:11 pm

Both are great and whatever everyone thinks in compoarison is quite ok , but i would not think twice by picking up Ramsey. Before any says bias or this kind of bs , i always liked Ramsey more , even though i've seen Pogba play for United only once.

At Juventus he has impressed big time , but what Ramsey has been doing with Arsenal so far i haven't seen from Pogba , always in comparison , Pogba is an immense talent obviously. But Ramsey has taken up so much responsibility whilst being succesfull in the process and you can see it in the way he's been playing that's he is fearless during games.

Not afraid to try stuff , not afraid to shoot , assist , tackle , throw himself into dangerous situations e.t.c , simply outstanding . Pogba is at this point which has already won the fans , doubters and i dare say general opinion , but he still ain't there and he's been trying to impress . Ramsey doesn't even try , he dominates on the field .

If Ramsey can keep this up , there's no contest for me. Remembering what he had to deal with so far , makes his return that more impressive and admirable , to say the least.
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Post by Lex Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:01 pm

What's Pogba like defensively? 'Cos Ramsey isn't afraid to get stuck in when the situation calls for it
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Post by aleumdance Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:41 am

Valkyrja wrote:Ramsey by far, every way you take it. Have always seen him as better than Wilshere too.
Ramsey was ALWAYS better than jack..

the Injury did some damage to him


as for the title,,, tenacity, ruthlessnes, grit.. Ramsey wins.. pogba edges with technique though
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Post by RealGunner Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:09 pm

aleumdance wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Ramsey by far, every way you take it. Have always seen him as better than Wilshere too.
Ramsey was ALWAYS better than jack..

the Injury did some damage to him


as for the title,,, tenacity, ruthlessnes, grit.. Ramsey wins.. pogba edges with technique though
No he wasn't.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:10 pm

Let's face it, the hype is around Ramsey atm, and it's justified hype too. BUT, it's only October so i'm not gonna even bother debating this for a few months.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:41 pm

the hype around ramsey is getting ridiculous, surprised no one has called him the best CM in football already.

As for me, i take Pogba, rare combination of a physically dominant player, with great skills and technique. I dont think he has found a natural role in midfield yet, but he is versatile to handle everything thrown his way atm.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:04 pm

Like I said, the hype is so strong that essentially people who don't even watch Pogba will be laughing at the fact that he is even compared to the demi-god Ramsey.

So i'm going to wait until the end of the season. By then one of two things will have happened.

1. Ramsey continues to prove the doubters wrong. He replicates his top form for a whole season.

2. He dies down, he goes back to lesser performances and people stop sucking up dat hype and come back down to earth.


How many games have Arsenal even played this season? Ramsey wasn't even spoken about that much until this season.

So a string of performances from Ramsey and he's all of a sudden infinitely better than 20 year old Pogba who played a crucial part in Juventus' Scudetto campaign, won the award for best player in the U-20 World Cup and is now working his way in to the France National team.

K then.
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Post by DuringTheWar Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:18 pm

I wouldn't hold my breath on ramseys form going down, its been the best part of 30 games since he got his act together. Hes put the injury in the past, hes back (at last) and he is here to stay. Hes not elite technically, but neither is pogba, and ramsey is just better at winning the ball, has ridiculous stamina and is a pretty good passer, he also would've been doing this long ago if he didn't have a horror injury.
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Post by cyberman Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:03 pm

Ramsey.
The aspects that pogba excels at is at a higher level, but he hasnt the attitude to develop into an all round player.
Ramsey has that attitude.

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Post by McAgger Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:16 pm

The hype is justified, you just have to see him play once you'll realize that his current form dictates that he's probably the best performing midfielder in the world at the moment.
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Post by REWB Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:26 pm

i can see ramsey scoring 20+ goals this season!
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Post by Highburied Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:39 pm

I dont care how many goals Ramsey scores.

I care about Pass % and how many interceptions he makes.

As for comparison ...

Who is Pogba?
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Post by Highburied Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:39 pm

RealGunner wrote:
aleumdance wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Ramsey by far, every way you take it. Have always seen him as better than Wilshere too.
Ramsey was ALWAYS better than jack..

the Injury did some damage to him


as for the title,,, tenacity, ruthlessnes, grit.. Ramsey wins.. pogba edges with technique though
No he wasn't.
I always liked you for being consistent... like me Smile

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:59 pm

'Who is Pogba' Laughing

Sums up the general idea when comparing one in-form player to a player people don't watch


Them not watching a player = player can't possibly be better than somebody they watch

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Post by El Jefe Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:43 pm

Pogba for me, better now and more potential. Pogba could easily be one of the best midfielders in Europe in a few years, don't think Ramsey will reach that level.
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:57 pm

El Jefe wrote:Pogba for me, better now and more potential. Pogba could easily be one of the best midfielders in Europe in a few years, don't think Ramsey will reach that level.
he is quite there already.
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Post by El Jefe Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:58 pm

No he isn't. A few good months doesn't mean you're up there with the best.
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Post by McAgger Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:19 pm

He's been playing like this since January.
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Post by DuringTheWar Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:45 pm

McAgger wrote:He's been playing like this since January.
No, hes been good since about January. But his current level has lasted a few months not more.
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Post by El Jefe Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:03 pm

^ That.

Nothing against Ramsey, clearly a very good player with a lot of potential, but he's got to do this over at least a year or two before being considered up there with the best.
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