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Post by Crimson Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:03 pm

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/es/Actualidad/1330159172422/noticia/Noticia/Los_ingresos_del_Real_Madrid_alcanzan_los_520,9_millones_de_euros,_el_beneficio_neto_asciende_a_.htm

Net debt was downgraded by 27.4%, to 90.6 million euros, 34.1 million euros less than the previous year.
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Post by chinomaster182 Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:11 pm

And it just went back up withe the bale purchase?

Arsenal is the real king, its just not cool to mention it.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:14 pm

Arsenal ffs


King of finances :bow:


Change this thread name pls.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:30 pm

Bayern also deserve a mention
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Post by Grooverider Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:39 pm

this is why Real deserve to have respect, they continue to go from strength to strength not only on the field but also business wise.
Other clubs should take note and learn from this

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Post by Crimson Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:41 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Arsenal ffs


King of finances :bow:


Change this thread name pls.
We have less net debt than Arsenal Smile

Also "Real Madrid ranks as the most solvent football club in the world" - Forbes!!!
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Post by Abramovich Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:08 pm

Thieves robbing from the poor, shameful.
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Post by Freeza Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:24 pm

Abramovich wrote:Thieves robbing from the poor, shameful.
And please do tell, how are they robbing from the poor?
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Post by Abramovich Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:42 pm

Jesus christ, have to spoon feed everything to the mehdrid half wits.

TV DEAL.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:43 pm

Madridistas: would you rather be 100m in net debt and win La Decima or be as you are now?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:49 pm

decima all day
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:51 pm

I rest my case.
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Post by Mamad Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:51 pm

Win Decima with zero debt.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:55 pm

Win zero debt with La Decima
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Post by ioilersrock448 Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:02 pm

Still in debt :coffee: :coffee: 
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Post by sportsczy Thu Sep 05, 2013 7:02 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Madridistas: would you rather be 100m in net debt and win La Decima or be as you are now?
How are the two even remotely related. If you're referring to keeping Ozil.... having him or Bale sit on the bench wouldn't help anything and would only create drama. We're getting rid of drama as much as possible if you hadn't noticed.

For Madrid... control the locker room = chance at decima. Talent is never an issue.
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Post by StrugaRock Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:07 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:Win zero debt with La Decima
zero la win with decima debt
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Post by zigra Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:30 pm

Being in debt isn't such a bad thing as long as your debts are not too high and 90m isn't really a lot compared to an income of 520m.
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:51 pm

I don't really get the freak out some of you have against Madrid with the Bale deal.

None of you take into account the talent they let go in order to buy Bale. It's not like they just bought Bale and didn't make a sacrifice to get him

I mean they did sell Higuain and Ozil in the same window and almost already completely made the money back. That was 35 mill Euros for Higgy and 42-45 mill Euro's for Ozil.

They bought Bale for 80 mill Euro's or around that. I'm not a banker but that pretty much a wash.

I mean other teams spent a lot more than them in this window.
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Post by Swanhends Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:56 pm

Crimson wrote:Also "Real Madrid ranks as the most solvent football club in the world" - Forbes!!!
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Madridistas: would you rather be 100m in net debt and win La Decima or be as you are now?
"Solvency is like a trophy" - Perez
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Post by Harmonica Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:07 am

So how much total debt RMA has? hmm 
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Post by Highburied Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:24 am

Arsenal, Dortmund and Bayern ftw!

As long as Real Madrid and Barcelona steal the TV money theres nothing to be proud of.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:56 am

91 ME net debt ffs :bow: lol at all those newsoutlets who were claiming we had 600 ME debt. Are Arsenal the only team with 0 net debt?? if so watch your backs we are coming thick and fast

btw this is the only area Perez is competent in unfortunately No
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Post by BarcaLearning Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:10 am

I dont believe in any of these "financial statements" anymore, total crap.
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Post by jibers Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:56 am

Just to be clear - the entity named "financial debt" is 90.6m. It may be net debt or just bank debt.
If it's net debt, then the (bank+creditor)debt is at least 402.5m Euro. Why?
Real have declared to have equity of 311.9m Euro and have arrived at the 90.6m debt by deducing the equity from the overall debt(the definition of which is up to Real's accountants and is VERY, VERY FLEXIBLE), so adding the "financial debt" to the equity we arrive at what Real defines as total debt, at least 402.5m Euro.

The net profit of 36.9m from 520m Euro revenue is more than respectable and its increase of 52.4% over the previous year(24.2m Euro in 2011-2012) seems enormous at first glance. However, one should not forget that the 2011-2012 year Real won La Liga, which entitled the players to serious bonuses. This year(2012-2013) there were NO such bonuses. Wink

In comparison, Barcelona declared profits of 32m Euro out of a 491m Euro revenue - and that includes the 16-20m of bonuses for winning La Liga. Net debt remained practically unchanged at 331m Euro from 334m the previous year.

Some clarification - since this is for the 2012-2013 period, Barcelona's debt includes the 57m paid for Neymar. On the other hand Real's debt doesn't include the spending made for this summer's signings, because they are for 2013-2014.

For 2013-2014 the relative finances are as follows:
Real Madrid -65m to -72m(depending on the definition and variables)
Barcelona +27.1m to +28.1m(depending on variables)
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