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Post by Collblanc Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:14 am

If Bale is going for 100m, surely Messi would bring up to 300m?
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Post by Onyx Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:29 am

A value of a player can't always be determined by looking at other players values.

Carroll wasn't wasn't worth £35m and Bale isn't worth £85m/€100m.

However realistically I'd say Messi is worth around €130m and Bale around €60m. But clubs would have to pay a lot more due to Messi's hype and other factors. So yeh, €300m is a possibility.

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Post by jibers Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:39 am

Whatever price Barcelona are willing to let him go for and the price a club is willing to pay. It's not science. Couch managers don't decide, market forces do...
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Post by Firenze Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:44 am

2.5million barrels of oil and Lavezzi
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:55 am

I'll give you a cheeky fiver for him if you're selling hmm


But nah, I don't think he has a 'value' as such


If Barca were open to selling it'd end with a bidding war in excess of 120M probably. Depending on how much an oil-wealthy club wanted him.
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Post by Donuts Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:58 am

If Bale went for 100m based on "hype"
any new oil team would easily offer 150m+
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:59 am

It depends on how far people are willing to go. If you apply a strict rato E.G Carrol £35M

Fernandinho £30M etc etc then yes, he'd go for the price of a small country.

BUT, that's not how it works at all.
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:01 am

Worth? €250 milly but players are going for double what they're worth so.. He would probably go for €500 milly
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:03 am

Nobody out there would invest half a Billion into 1 player.


We all forget from time to time, these people actually physically MADE their money from whatever it happened to be. They're probably not going to be that reckless.

Apart from Uncle Roman, to every rule there is an exception, in this case it takes the form of a Mad b*stard.
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:07 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Nobody out there would invest half a Billion into 1 player.


We all forget from time to time, these people actually physically MADE their money from whatever it happened to be. They're probably not going to be that reckless.

Apart from Uncle Roman, to every rule there is an exception, in this case it takes the form of a Mad b*stard.
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Post by Lex Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:07 am

What's half a billion squid to people who have 20 billion sitting in a bomb proof bunker somewhere in the desert?
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:08 am

Dem Golden Balls would look mighty fine to an oil barren
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Post by Lex Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:10 am

Also, I hate the "worth whatever a buyer is willing to pay for" mentality. So if my niece makes a horse out of popsicle sticks and some eccentric foreign trillionaire buys it for £100k, does it mean it's actually worth £100k? No........
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Post by Donuts Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:10 am

For a player who wouldn't want the move in the first place it'd take a large amount of money to get Barca to even sell, unlike when Bale or Ronaldo wanted to go to Madrid.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:13 am

Doesn't mean it's worth 100k No


But the base fact is that it DID go for 100k.


'Value' is a pointless concept here because 'Value' doesn't decide the prices. That's just the way it is.
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:23 am

I think some of you forget it only takes 1 team to offer an insane amount of money.

People saying 120-150 mill are not really in reality. There would be a line of teams ready to backup dump trucks of money if Barcelona let it be known they would sell Messi for 150 mill. That would still be a great deal on whoever buys him as in the long run they would make money off of that deal. I mean he's only 26 years old, a 5 year contract would get pretty much most of his prime.

If you look at it teams spend over 200 million in a couple transfer windows and I guarantee if you asked them weather they would rather have the lot of players Monaco or PSG or Man City bought or Messi they would choose Messi going away.

His value is 500 Mill plus. And that still wouldn't be that bad of a deal with shirt sales and the other amounts of money he brings in. I'm sure Real would tell you Ronaldo was a steal at 100 mill.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:24 am

Prices are set by the margins. If A bids $4, B bids $5 and C bids $10 for an apple then the apple is worth $10. Is C an idiot for bidding so much higher than B? Perhaps, but he's still setting the price.

I think if Chelsea/PSG/Monaco/City knew for sure that they could get Messi for 200m euros then they would bid it, FFP be damned.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:28 am

No he wouldn't make you money in the long term at Half a Billion ffs rofl

You want to talk about being in 'reality'?

Ok, let's say he went for £500,000,000

His wages would no doubt be £30,000,000-£40,000,000 per season for 5 seasons. That's approx £700,000,000

And you're telling me they can get MORE than £700,000,000 out of Messi, and do so within 5 or so years?

Or are you implying they can make most of it up? Which is still insane.


Tell me more about your reality. Pls.


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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:29 am

Oh and by then being fairly old and all, his re-sale value would be peanuts.
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:45 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:No he wouldn't make you money in the long term at Half a Billion ffs rofl

You want to talk about being in 'reality'?

Ok, let's say he went for £500,000,000

His wages would no doubt be £30,000,000-£40,000,000 per season for 5 seasons. That's approx £700,000,000

And you're telling me they can get MORE than £700,000,000 out of Messi, and do so within 5 or so years?

Or are you implying they can make most of it up? Which is still insane.


Tell me more about your reality. Pls.
Reading is FUNdamental.

I never said they would make money at 500 mill, please show me where I said that?

I said at 150 mill they would easily make money and at 500 mill it "still wouldn't be that bad of a deal".

Please just try to live in reality for at least a couple minutes.

Stop making stuff up.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:48 am

'Still not be that bad of a deal'


Is your idea of 'not a bad deal' losing £300,000,000?

Your concept of money and wealth is shocking.
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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:00 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:'Still not be that bad of a deal'


Is your idea of 'not a bad deal'  losing £300,000,000?

Your concept of money and wealth is shocking.
You really are slow, don't be mad because everyone thinks you lost it by claiming he's worth under 150 mill.

Madrid made up Ronaldo's fee in less than a year and a half. The Ronaldo deal was so successful they are willing to do it again on a player that is about half as good as him and worth way way less.

And LOL, you don't buy a player for 500 mill with the expectations to sell him the minute his contract is up. Madrid will make way more than 500 mill off of ronaldo before he leaves the white house.

At 31 Messi will not be close to past it and over the length of 1 or two contracts they will def make money off of the deal. It's not out of the relm of possibility to make back the money in the first 5 years if he were to bring them a couple league titles and 2 Champions Leagues, if he were to win the Wold cup next year then all bets would be off and 500 mill would be a breeze to make back.

You see it's an investment, and you plan on him winning multiple trophies with your club and he has a great shot to win a World Cup in South America as well. You also plan on him being there for the rest of his career plus you buy him for the cache he brings your team he makes any team credible as a contender from day one and that is money you can't measure especially because when you buy him you can attract the best talent in the world.



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Post by zizzle Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:21 am

How much does Messi bring in for Barca each year in shirt sales and endorsements ?
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Post by ronalessi Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:38 am

Probably €130 m + 2 great players + performance bonuses
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Post by B-Mac Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:35 am

I am worth €160 million


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