Re: Transfer Saga: Sami Khedira

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:47 pm

windkick wrote:All Real Madrid fans think any players is there's for the taken

by jibers Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:53 pm

I am speechless...

by jibers Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:54 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
windkick wrote:All Real Madrid fans think any players is there's for the taken

TBF if Madrid want a player they usually get them. They have the arrogance that comes with any institution that is the top of the food chain. It's that simple tbh.

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:57 pm

Yeah if they want to pay insane sums of money then they normally do.

But thinking they can get Vidal for 40M euros is insane.

Can they get most players? Yep. When they pay over the odds.

Do big players all line up at their clubs HQ and demand cheap moves because Madrid want them? No. But some fans attitude seems to suggest otherwise.

by sportsczy Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:59 pm

Two ways Madrid can get players by force: Player forces the move OR Madrid overpay. Otherwise, no.

Vidal and Pogba are perfectly happy at Juve right now. No reason for them to move.

by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:00 pm

it has been proved we make better players when we buy them cheap and still inexperienced. But with our president we will always prefer other teams fan favourites. Heck id rather we promote players than sign in the first place

I am probably the only madrid fan who would prefer J-Rod to Gundo"anothersahin"gan or someone like Benavente to Bale. I just don't like it when we buy players in positions we have quality ones in our youth its just waste of money but this debate has been beaten to death so I don't want it to start again Proud

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:03 pm

sportsczy wrote:Two ways Madrid can get players by force: Player forces the move OR Madrid overpay. Otherwise, no.

Vidal and Pogba are perfectly happy at Juve right now. No reason for them to move.

This is the proper attitude to have here

by S Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:12 pm

It will take nothing short of a Zidane-esque prize to land Vidal.We have already rejected big 40m+ offers before.Players wont force moves as long as we're in contention for the CL.

by Onyx Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:13 pm

They're happy at Juventus, but as I said if Juve fail to win the CL and Real Madrid explicitly declare interest, they could ask to move.

So let's say Juve don't win the CL and next Summer Real Madrid bid anywhere around €40-50m, it could happen.

by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:14 pm

mt we haven't won CL for how many years ffs. so why would they come if Juve don't win it scratch

you are probably one of those who thought we could just pluck Ribery out of Bayern without scratch

pls stahp mt. they can't buy happy players from us and vice versa. we are both top teams there is no reason to make such a dumb move

by Onyx Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:17 pm

The same reason Ronaldo, Bale and others sign.

by S Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:19 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:They're happy at Juventus, but as I said if Juve fail to win the CL and Real Madrid explicitly declare interest, they could ask to move.

So let's say Juve don't win the CL and next Summer Real Madrid bid anywhere around €40-50m, it could happen.

No.Juventus arent going to get bullied that easily.They're not a selling club and if the player forces himself out(which is extremely unlikely in Vidal's case) ,you'd have to pay what we demand.

Heck you got bullied by freaking Spurs for Bale Laughing

The delusion is riding high in you mt so calma.

by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:The same reason Ronaldo, Bale and others sign.

Ronaldo had already won evetything with United including balondor and needed a new challenge.

Spurs will never be competitive whoever they buy

by Onyx Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:23 pm

For a lot of players it's a dream to play for Real Madrid. Even without winning trophies, we're still an attraction to top players.

by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:30 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:For a lot of players it's a dream to play for Real Madrid. Even without winning trophies, we're still an attraction to top players.

didn't stop us getting rejected by the likes of Ribery and Totti eh??

lets face it mt. if you are regular in a big team which realistically can win all competitions at stake there is absolutely no reason to move clubs unless you are a money wh*re but even then you could do a Rooney.

this doesn't only apply to juve but any other club including our very own. If PSG offeted us 40mill for Varane I wouldn't even be worried because I know he is happy here and a regular so it wouldn't even make sense for him to leave

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:30 pm

Lol no stop changing your point AND overrating prestige.

Trophies and wages come first.

by Onyx Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:39 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:For a lot of players it's a dream to play for Real Madrid. Even without winning trophies, we're still an attraction to top players.
didn't stop us getting rejected by the likes of Ribery and Totti eh??

lets face it mt. if you are regular in a big team which realistically can win all competitions at stake there is absolutely no reason to move clubs unless you are a money wh*re but even then you could do a Rooney.

this doesn't only apply to juve but any other club including our very own. If PSG offeted us 40mill for Varane I wouldn't even be worried because I know he is happy here and a regular so it wouldn't even make sense for him to leave

Some players are loyal, so they may want to stay. But being at Real Madrid is the pinnacle regardless of whether we're winning trophies or not. We're an elite club and many players dream of joining. It's clearly possible for us to sign players from other top clubs.

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:51 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:For a lot of players it's a dream to play for Real Madrid. Even without winning trophies, we're still an attraction to top players.
didn't stop us getting rejected by the likes of Ribery and Totti eh??

lets face it mt. if you are regular in a big team which realistically can win all competitions at stake there is absolutely no reason to move clubs unless you are a money wh*re but even then you could do a Rooney.

this doesn't only apply to juve but any other club including our very own. If PSG offeted us 40mill for Varane I wouldn't even be worried because I know he is happy here and a regular so it wouldn't even make sense for him to leave
Some players are loyal, so they may want to stay. But being at Real Madrid is the pinnacle regardless of whether we're winning trophies or not. We're an elite club and many players dream of joining. It's clearly possible for us to sign players from other top clubs.

Rubbish

Winning trophies is the pinnacle of football. If your club don't win anything you don't attract the biggest players (Minus a fat paycheck)

Fast forward 15 years. Pretend RM have won nothing since now, you think players will leave league and CL winners to join RM because of the name?

If you answer yes, you're living in la la land.

by halamadrid2 Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:52 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:For a lot of players it's a dream to play for Real Madrid. Even without winning trophies, we're still an attraction to top players.
didn't stop us getting rejected by the likes of Ribery and Totti eh??

lets face it mt. if you are regular in a big team which realistically can win all competitions at stake there is absolutely no reason to move clubs unless you are a money wh*re but even then you could do a Rooney.

this doesn't only apply to juve but any other club including our very own. If PSG offeted us 40mill for Varane I wouldn't even be worried because I know he is happy here and a regular so it wouldn't even make sense for him to leave
Some players are loyal, so they may want to stay. But being at Real Madrid is the pinnacle regardless of whether we're winning trophies or not. We're an elite club and many players dream of joining. It's clearly possible for us to sign players from other top clubs.

football first, dreams later

we are a club that change players when we feel like it even if they do very good. We are not exactly a very attractive club to those players who want guaranteed starting spots

unless they have won balondor or are spanish stars there is no point of players coming(unless they are mentally strong) because they will never be immune to the chopping block. its a tough place to survive. you are underrating that, you have got to be very tough mentally to survive

at other clubs you have outspoken presidents and coaches who will protect you from any criticism. at our club we have a president who gives no support to the player after he has signed them and politically correct coaches (which could be a good thing) and newspaper that chew on our players to sell their papers

its a very tough place so anyone that comes will have taken a gamble

by Onyx Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:55 pm

Why do all these big players move when we aren't winning the CL and when we've won 1 league in like the past 5 years or so? Real Madrid are an elite club even without winning the CL/trophies.

Obviously it would influence a players decision if we aren't winning something within 15 years, but that isn't happening.

by Tomwin Lannister Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:57 pm

But you said regardless of trophies you're THE pinnacle of football.

That's dangerous dillusion.

How do you think Madrid got a lot of that prestige? By winning TROPHIES.

by Onyx Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:00 pm

Yeh 15 years would be too long, but if we're occasionally winning trophies, then it's fine in terms of influencing a players decision to join.

by REWB Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:32 pm

not everyone dreams of playing for rm

by Grooverider Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:36 pm

aleumdance wrote:United fans must really hate this summer lol

christ wouldn't you? lol

a crappy new manager and a non nonexistent midfield

by EL Patron Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:56 pm

Grooverider wrote:
aleumdance wrote:United fans must really hate this summer lol
christ wouldn't you? lol

a crappy new manager and a non nonexistent midfield

thats a bit harsh lol

by Mr Nick09 Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:25 pm

bump

Giroud
Sanchez-Ozil-Walcott
Khedira-Ramsey
D--E--F--E--N--S--E
zzzzzzz

Will Arsenal have the best midfield in the kingdom?

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