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Post by Berbatov Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:27 pm

Three finalists were leaked before the announcement #I T K (lol at the I T K censor btw)
Ribéry, Ronaldo, Messi.
Spoiler:
Check the image link if you don't believe it, straight from UEFA.
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/uefa-best-player-award/season=2013/nominees/index.html
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:30 pm

Ronaldo, Messi, Ribery
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Post by Berbatov Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:38 pm

http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/news/newsid=1978972.html

Ranks of the rest

4 Robert Lewandowski (POL) – Borussia Dortmund (80 points)
5 Arjen Robben (NED) – FC Bayern München (55)
6 Thomas Müller (GER) – FC Bayern München (51)
7 Gareth Bale (WAL) – Tottenham Hotspur FC (48)
8 Bastian Schweinsteiger (GER) – FC Bayern München (34)
9 Zlatan Ibrahimović (SWE) – Paris Saint-Germain FC (27)
10 Robin van Persie (NED) – Manchester United FC (24)
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Post by Berbatov Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:40 pm

Oh, and btw, the fix is in. Taken from the link in the previous post:

UEFA wrote:Messi won the Spanish Liga title with Barcelona last term, as well as his fifth successive FIFA Ballon d'Or, and ended the season with an extraordinary haul of 46 league goals.
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Post by jibers Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:27 pm

Robben or Ribery should walk this. Messi flopped hard in the semis.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:30 pm

jibers wrote:Robben or Ribery should walk this. Messi flopped hard in the semis.
It's not the player of semi-final award.
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Post by Crimson Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:33 pm

Ronaldo's 12 goals, 6 of which came in the KO's should get him over the line imo.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:35 pm

Cronaldo has no chance, it will be Ribery for Bayern winning the treble, or Messi being individually beyond everyone.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:50 pm

jibers wrote:Robben or Ribery should walk this. Messi flopped hard in the semis.
hard not to flop when you are so unfit you can't run.

Very shocked Iniesta did not make it to the top 10 in spite of being crucial in winning the league by February.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:58 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Very shocked Iniesta did not make it to the top 10 in spite of being crucial in winning the league by February.
Iniesta wasn't crucial in league win at all, even Fabregas was more decisive. Messi carried Barcelona to La Liga win with the style Maradona did in Napoli.
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Post by la bestia negra Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:06 pm

whats the point of discussing this when we are all sure it will mystically go to messi along with the ballon
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Post by Governor Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:23 pm

Ribery or Ronaldo should win it.

Frankly if someone wins this award after getting a beat up of 7-0 ... that's a disgrace

BUT thankfully, this award is voted on by Knowledgable Sports Journalists only... unlike balondo'r where some captain of Guyana, or coach of Fiji gets to vote lol
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Post by gondov Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:27 pm

Governor wrote:Ribery or Ronaldo should win it.

Frankly if someone wins this award after getting a beat up of 4-0 ... that's a disgrace

BUT thankfully, this award is voted on by Knowledgable Sports Journalists only... unlike balondo'r where some captain of Guyana, or coach of Fiji gets to vote lol
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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:27 pm

Harmonica wrote:
jibers wrote:Robben or Ribery should walk this. Messi flopped hard in the semis.
It's not the player of semi-final award.

Shocked! Laughing Messi was playing while being injured against an inform and fit Bayern.

IMO, Messi was and still the best individually and its not even close, we all saw his influence on Barcelona last season and the big difference he makes!

And I'm not just talking about stats (its just part of it).

Please can you enlight us and tell us what did Cistiano do in the semis? or what did he do with RM last season?

Anyway, I don't mind if Ribery won this award (like Iniesta last season), cause he played a crucial role and was Bayern's best player last season.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:28 pm

Can someone explain to me why Ronaldo should win it lol?

His team didn't win a single trophy and Messi scored more and assisted more and basically did everything more Laughing

I can understand Ribery because of Bayern winning the treble and his importance for that achievement but Ronaldo? pls go lol.
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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:30 pm

Governor wrote:Ribery or Ronaldo should win it.

Frankly if someone wins this award after getting a beat up of 7-0 ... that's a disgrace

BUT thankfully, this award is voted on by Knowledgable Sports Journalists only... unlike balondo'r where some captain of Guyana, or coach of Fiji gets to vote lol

So all things Messi did last season, the way he carried Barcelona the whole season to winning the league, UCL Semi-Final. We should judge him in just on ONE game when he was injured playing against a fit team and best team at the moment! #funny
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:30 pm

Ronaldo was just unlucky there was chaos around him. he did his things and kept scoring for us but the fights and grudges prevented us from winning anything

probably why we are getting bale to help him out with the scoring
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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:32 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Can someone explain to me why Ronaldo should win it lol?

His team didn't win a single trophy and Messi scored more and assisted more and basically did everything more Laughing

I can understand Ribery because of Bayern winning the treble and his importance for that achievement but Ronaldo? pls go lol.

Exactly, if some people think that Ribery should win it, I could understand it. Ribery was the best player on the team that won the Treble.

Individually, its not even close Messi is still #1

Overall, since Ribery was best player on a team that won a treble, he might deserve to win it for this season!
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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:35 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Ronaldo was just unlucky there was chaos around him. he did his things and kept scoring for us but the fights and grudges prevented us from winning anything

probably why we are getting bale to help him out with the scoring



He was unlucky for chaos around him ! Laughing
What about Messi getting injured in the most important part of the season, playing with a team that had to deal with all the injuries in defence and most important Tito & Abidal illness.

Individually, Messi was #1 (influence on his team, stats etc...)

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Post by Harmonica Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:36 pm

Some reference

Goal.com 50 http://www.goal.com/en/news/2466/goal-50/2013/07/29/4146404/lionel-messi-wins-goal-50?ICID=HP_HN_1

Voting takes place at the end of domestic and international seasons for the majority of countries.

More than 500 Goal journalists from around the world vote to select their top 50 players, giving a truly global view.

1. Messi
2. Ribery
3. Cronaldo

Eurosport Ballon d'Or http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/ballon-d-eurosport-no-1-lionel-messi-063951159.html

We asked the editorial teams of 10 countries/areas around the Eurosport network to compile their list of the world's 25 best players.

1. Messi
2. Cronaldo
9. Ribery
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Post by jibers Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:37 pm

Robben's goals last season where all more important than anything Messi scored.

Robben >>
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Post by Harmonica Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:37 pm

jibers wrote:Robben's goals last season where all more important than anything Messi scored.

Robben >>
Robben isn't top 3.
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Post by jibers Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:39 pm

Harmonica wrote:
jibers wrote:Robben's goals last season where all more important than anything Messi scored.

Robben >>
Robben isn't top 3.

Don't care. These awards mean nothing anyways. Ronaldo should not even be on there. Goals has become the be all and end all of everything.Had Zidane played in this era people would have said Ronaldo is better than him :facepalm:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:40 pm

jibers wrote:Robben's goals last season where all more important than anything Messi scored.

Robben >>

Robben was on the bench for 3/4 of the season, would rather have Piggy and Ribery over him.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:42 pm

jibers wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
jibers wrote:Robben's goals last season where all more important than anything Messi scored.

Robben >>
Robben isn't top 3.

Don't care. These awards mean nothing anyways. Ronaldo should not even be on there. Goals has become the be all and end all of everything.Had Zidane played in this era people would have said Ronaldo is better than him :facepalm:
It's not only about the goals is it?

Whoscored rating (UCL+League, based on over 200 statistic)

Top 3

1. Messi 8.57 43 games, 25 MoM
2. Cronaldo 8.38 46 games, 12 MoM
3. Ribery 8.01 39 games, 12 MoM
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