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Post by DeviAngel Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:04 pm

If confirmed, the news would of really striking: two sites British 'sports news direct' and 'caughtoffside', report rumors of a deal between Juventus and Manchester City for Sergio Aguero . After removing from the English club already Carlos Tevez , the Bianconeri, who are trying to sell two of the attackers currently in Pink ( Matri and Qugliarella all), would be working in secret to bring in Turin also the son of Maradona. In recent days, Aguero has been linked with Real Madrid at the insistence, as the internal competition at Manchester City has increased with the arrival of Negredo and Jovetic . Beyond the tabloid rumors, it remains to understand what the strategy of Juventus to withdraw the Argentine, who has a contract valid until June of 2017 with the British club, who Currency € 40 million. Unless, of not imminent sale of Vucinic , from which the Old Lady could fetch about € 20 million , which should then be added to the proceeds of the sale of one of Matri Quagliarella or more what little thing taken from the chest of course Galfer.
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The site SportsDirect News Reporter reported today the rumor that El Kun Aguero would be unhappy in Manchester and would like to follow Carlitos Tevez in black and white. The arrival of Jovetic and Negredo would close spaces for the Argentine. At the moment, however, the rumor seems difficult because Juventus should give not one but two strikers and above all ensure the player a high engagement.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:05 pm

Damn that would be en excellent buy.
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Post by salmano9 Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:10 pm

Baaaack agaaaaaain!
If Marrota pulled that off, he would be a genius. Thougj I doubt that mansh ity are goingg to sell aguero for less than 45m. They want a profit
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Post by S Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:15 pm

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:16 pm

If they were selling him after the 11/12 season they could try and get a profit

But after last season maybe 30-40M could do it


If you think about it, when we sell two strikers we could actually have made more money than we've spent this summer

Outgoing:

Matri + Quags 20M

Or Vucinic + either 25M

Giac 8M euros or something like that

Melo 5M

So that's either 33 or 38Million Euros roughly depending on who goes

Think i'm forgetting somebody too


Incoming:

Tevez 10-12M (Bonuses paid at a later date, 3M worth)

Llorente free

Ogbonna 15M

Total so far 25-27M.


So let's say we did buy Aguero for 35M


And the outgoing transfers I listed did happen (They seem rather likely)

We'd have all in spent a bit over 60Million for

Aguero (35M)

Ogbonna (15M)

Tevez (12M)

Whilst making Over 30M from sales. That's still a cost effective Summer for me.

This post is a bit rushed, and I'd have presented it a bit better if it wasn't. And the true prices will be a few Mill different from my own. I may edit it later.

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Post by S Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:19 pm

Wow,were you being serious when you wrote this Tom ?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:24 pm

Sports Direct News Laughing

They were the same people that said we are buying Rooney this summer Laughing
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Post by Kaladin Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:25 pm

CaughtOffside Laughing
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:26 pm

Huh? I doubt we'd get him but what i'm saying is a big 30M + bid for him would hardly make a dent on our cash.


Considering we're selling two strikers who are being linked with 10/15M moves, we've sold Giach and we've only really spent 25M so far.

So a big bid on Aguero would leave us with a loss of about 25-30M max, which is still much better than most other windows we've had in the past years since coming back to Serie A



That post was from a phone which I suck with.
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Post by S Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:30 pm

Ok,lets talk hypothetically...

What makes you think Man City will sell for 35m ?

What makes you think we'll be able to afford his enormous wages ? A team that actually has a wage cap.

What makes you think we'll sell all those players for those numbers ? (All those are rumors again from unreliable sources)

Most of all,what made you believe this really weird rumor hmm


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Post by Juveman17 Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:32 pm

rofl This isnt going to happen

It's about reliable as Caught Offside and about as well written as Bleacher Report Laughing
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Post by Ion Creanga Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:33 pm

When something looks to be too good to be true, it's definitely not true...
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:35 pm

he wouldn't go under 40 mil lol Smile
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:36 pm

I don't believe it, like I said I doubt we'd get him or a player like him

What i'm trying to say is that financially it's really not a big deal, and there will be people out there who think us spending 30+M now would be impossible. But if you add up the numbers it only puts out Incoming expenses roughly 30M higher than out predicted outgoing sales.

As for his wages, well people always talk about that. Who in their right mind thought that Tevez would take a pay cut?

If another top player was to come in, he'd essentially be replacing not one but TWO of our strikers. And their combined wage being off the books + Iaquintas would be more than enough to cover the wages of most players.
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Post by S Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:36 pm

DeviAngel wrote:he wouldn't go under 50 mil lol Smile
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Post by S Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:40 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:I don't believe it, like I said I doubt we'd get him or a player like him

What i'm trying to say is that financially it's really not a big deal, and there will be people out there who think us spending 30+M now would be impossible. But if you add up the numbers it only puts out Incoming expenses roughly 30M higher than out predicted outgoing sales.

As for his wages, well people always talk about that. Who in their right mind thought that Tevez would take a pay cut?

If another top player was to come in, he'd essentially be replacing not one but TWO of our strikers. And their combined wage being off the books + Iaquintas would be more than enough to cover the wages of most players.

The only way i see us spending big money on high calibre players is if we actually sell one of Vidal,Pogba or Marchisio for big money.That way we'll have enough liquid cash to be in a position to make an expensive signing.
We havent spent more than 18m on a single player in the Marotta era.That tells tbh.
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Post by S Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:46 pm

Tevez scenario is different.He is already 29 and was looking for a new challenge whereas Aguero is a WC player who is yet to reach his peak so will command high wages wherever he goes.

And also let me add ,lets look at investment from both transfer fees + wages point of view.Tevez wages are high but he cost less in transfer fee which was feasible for us.Aguero on the other hand would cost a lot both in wages and transfer fee.We'd be talking about 80-90m investment right there which isnt feasible for the club at this point IMO.
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Post by Juventude Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:32 pm

Surag wrote:Tevez scenario is different.He is already 29 and was looking for a new challenge whereas Aguero is a WC player who is yet to reach his peak so will command high wages wherever he goes.

And also let me add ,lets look at investment from both transfer fees + wages point of view.Tevez wages are high but he cost less in transfer fee which was feasible for us.Aguero on the other hand would cost a lot both in wages and transfer fee.We'd be talking about 80-90m investment right there which isnt feasible for the club at this point IMO.

Exactly. At this point, I would guess that we will only sign a LWB/LW or a young striker if we choose to sell two strikers. Either way, I'm not expecting the player to be world class quality.
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Post by Vibe Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:51 pm

148th Aguero thread in Juve section :bow:

I actually counted,there were 147 when Juve tried to sign Aguero but ended up with Vucinic instead.The saga continues...
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Post by Luca Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:00 pm

Vibe wrote:148th Aguero thread in Juve section :bow:

I actually counted,there were 147 when Juve tried to sign Aguero but ended up with Vucinic instead.The saga continues...

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Post by salmano9 Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:18 pm

I say,
Its only just a dddddrrrrrreeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaammmm Smile
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Post by salmano9 Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:20 pm

Vuinic FTW!!!!! Lol @vibe
Sorry about not editting.. iits sh*ty to use your phone
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:41 pm

DeviAngel wrote:If confirmed, the news would of really striking: two sites British 'sports news direct' and 'caughtoffside', report rumors of a deal between Juventus and Manchester City for Sergio Aguero . After removing from the English club already Carlos Tevez , the Bianconeri, who are trying to sell two of the attackers currently in Pink ( Matri and Qugliarella all), would be working in secret to bring in Turin also the son of Maradona. In recent days, Aguero has been linked with Real Madrid at the insistence, as the internal competition at Manchester City has increased with the arrival of Negredo and Jovetic . Beyond the tabloid rumors, it remains to understand what the strategy of Juventus to withdraw the Argentine, who has a contract valid until June of 2017 with the British club, who Currency € 40 million. Unless, of not imminent sale of Vucinic , from which the Old Lady could fetch about € 20 million , which should then be added to the proceeds of the sale of one of Matri Quagliarella or more what little thing taken from the chest of course Galfer.
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Post by Cotes Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:09 pm

Not a chance...
We have to wait till his contract almost runs out...
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Post by nyluigi Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:52 pm

Not likely. Juve are in good shape for FFP. Aguero would def take them outa the black and into the red.
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