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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:59 pm

I think we have all watched a lot of NT games this past week, but i have to say that no player impressed me more than Oscar with Brazil.

I wanted to just take the opportunity to talk about something football fans seem to consistently overlook when they rate player, it's football IQ, pure intelligence.

Oscar doesnt look like the most impressive of athletes, he doesnt overwhelm opposing players with tricks and flicks, he is pure intelligence, pure decision making. Rightness of play is written all over him. In a way, he is very similar to someone like Gotze.

In this youtube Era, players are rated by how well they can pull out tricks and dribbles, how nice their youtube compilations look. Ball technique is important, but pure intelligence like that never lies. There is a player that has barely played any footy this season, yet he steps on the pitch with his NT and all of a sudden he has them ticking because his brain is figuring out exactly where he needs to be, what pass to make, when to have the extra touch, or when to back pass and to hold it off. A steep contrast when looking at the names around him, he was certainly the least known with Romulo and the GKs. yet he put to shame the likes of Lucas or Neymar with an abundance of simplicity.

Hats down, that kid is going to be a star, book it.
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Post by Adit Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:03 pm

Better than Ganso with Brazil ever was imo,despite his assist statitics.

I liked his roaming no 10 role. Gave midfield stability and flow to their game.

Reminds me of Ozils game.
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Post by Ganso Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:48 pm

yeah,hes like a right footed version of ozil.actually hes pretty well known here in brazil,guardiola was scouting him last year,avb was here last month to watch him in the libertadores.

i think that teams will come after him in this tranfer window,his performances were very good.all of them,including yesterday
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Post by biggiejay Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:11 am

Oscar is a great talent! I absolutely love his game, We'll be seeing a lot of him with the seleção in the up coming years.
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Post by elitedam Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:13 am

In these first few games for the senior side I was most impressed with his movement on the field. He would pop up everywhere to orchestrate the plays. In the past, there were times when our attacking players were too static and that led to the ball being stuck in our half. You would see the center backs exchanging passes seven or eight times because they had nowhere to go. But with Oscar playing, there is always an option.
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Post by justdoit_ Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:28 am

Ganso is old news, apparently Wink
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Post by SuperMAG Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:31 am

Oscar is like right footed Ozil, though ozil is much sharper and more developed.

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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:42 am

Was very impressed with him whenever I had the chance to watch him play, tells you about the Brazilian league talents.
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Post by barca 2011 Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:50 am

Well no matter what, Brazil need the best squad possible for the upcoming WC. I saw the USA V. Brazil match and although he isn't flashy, Oscar can still help bring back Brazil's flair.
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Post by quadrotor Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:57 am

For me, his off the ball movement is the best out of any of the current Brazilian team.

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Post by lenear1030 Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:15 pm

justdoit_ wrote:Ganso is old news, apparently Wink


i remember he was supposed to be milan's savior.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:22 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:I think we have all watched a lot of NT games this past week, but i have to say that no player impressed me more than Oscar with Brazil.

I wanted to just take the opportunity to talk about something football fans seem to consistently overlook when they rate player, it's football IQ, pure intelligence.

Oscar doesnt look like the most impressive of athletes, he doesnt overwhelm opposing players with tricks and flicks, he is pure intelligence, pure decision making. Rightness of play is written all over him. In a way, he is very similar to someone like Gotze.

In this youtube Era, players are rated by how well they can pull out tricks and dribbles, how nice their youtube compilations look. Ball technique is important, but pure intelligence like that never lies. There is a player that has barely played any footy this season, yet he steps on the pitch with his NT and all of a sudden he has them ticking because his brain is figuring out exactly where he needs to be, what pass to make, when to have the extra touch, or when to back pass and to hold it off. A steep contrast when looking at the names around him, he was certainly the least known with Romulo and the GKs. yet he put to shame the likes of Lucas or Neymar with an abundance of simplicity.

Hats down, that kid is going to be a star, book it.

Blog much? Very Happy

Anyway i dont agree he's like Ozil, Nick is right he is more like Goetze or Kroos.....

Someone that relies on his brain and appreciation of space is indeed rare which is why its so great when you see someone like this.

I would like to see Oscar and Ganso together as i feel their skillsets compliment each other well only if Ganso could stay fit Mad

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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:28 pm

Yeah he is a rare talent, and you can spot it very quickly. He was already impressive in the u20 world cup, but what he did with Brazil, with a group of players he had never played with, was just incredible to me.

I see nothing of Ozil in him myself, he is very much like Gotze, just a lot of smart, a lot of simple touches, but 10/10 decision making.

Ganso will be back at some point i guess, his body will stop him from reaching his potential, but he is someone else with tremendous vision, and his passing is phenomenal. I dont think a lot of people here bother to watch Santos, but he is a real talent. It's a bit cheap to talk badly of him as if he is flopping, it's not the case at all.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:31 pm

Leiva-Ganso-Oscar = The Official Oscar Thread Wanknk2
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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:33 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Leiva-Ganso-Oscar = The Official Oscar Thread Wanknk2

they would need some serious pressing game to make it work
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Post by rsinatra Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:25 pm

Ganso's problem is his injuries, it slows down his progress. If you watched him for Brazil against USA in 2010 you saw how awesome he can be when he's 100%.

But totally agreed, Oscar has been impressive, and Ganso better watch out. I would like to see if anyone can make Oscar + Ganso work on the pitch.

And I wonder if the former will stay at Internacional after these displays... Sad
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Post by Ganso Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:30 pm

menezes said he wants oscar and ganso to play together....dat amazing passing.i think we can break any defense with ganso,oscar and marcelo

btw if he performs vs mascherano :bow:
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Post by Dante Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:37 pm

I doubt Ganso will lose his place for good by Oscar . It's early to tell really . Let Ganso recover and play again with the NT , then we could talk about it.

But Oscar is really bright on the field , always a clear idea of what to do with the ball in attack..he could work wonders with Ganso and a b2b midfielder near him .
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Post by Ganso Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:24 pm

well,looks like we found another wonderkid to hype Laughing

our motm against a midfield that had mascherano :bow:

in mater of fact,our best player in the past 4 friendlies
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:30 pm

I dont think Mascherano is an impressive DM anymore tbh and this is based on more than one game.

He's a much better CB than DM now, whether you choose to accept that is up to you.

Gago is much more impressive to me than Mascherano.

Not taking anything away from Oscar though the kid is legit.
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Post by Ganso Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:34 pm

yeah,props to Gago.the man really turns it up when he plays for the NT
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Post by Le Samourai Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:42 pm

True heir to Socrates

We are not worthy :bow:
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Post by quadrotor Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:40 am

Does anyone know what his injury yesterday was and how long if will be out for?

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Post by rsinatra Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:53 am

MotM for Brazil (who were the better side if it wasn't for Messi).
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Post by schwarzgelb Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:16 pm

brilliant player. great games against argentina and denmark i'm really impressed Smile
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