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Post by Khaled Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:02 am

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I'll add the stats for the remaining players later...
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:47 pm

Khaled :bow:

Where have you been man?
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Post by Khaled Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:04 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Khaled :bow:

Where have you been man?
haha thanks bro, didn't have so much time, uni/work etc...

It wasn't a great season after all, but not bad either... hopefully next season will be better with the signing of Neymar and 2 DEFENDERS Very Happy
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Post by Khaled Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:46 pm

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Post by windkick Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:30 pm

Can you do Tello, Alexis, Pedro and Villa please?

Also Thiago? I would like to compare all of our mids and forwards

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Post by Khaled Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:47 pm

windkick wrote:Can you do Tello, Alexis, Pedro and Villa please?

Also Thiago? I would like to compare all of our mids and forwards

Thanks your the best Smile

I'll post the detailed stats (similar to the ones above) for the rest players in the next few days (1 per day).

Here's the full list for goals, assists and goal-scoring chances created from this season

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:41 pm

What's the definition of a goal-scoring chance?
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Post by Khaled Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:04 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:What's the definition of a goal-scoring chance?

Its the same definition of an assist (with or without goal).
Example: Xavi provided 74 assists this season (just 12 of them ended with agoal).

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Post by dream departure Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:02 am

Khaled wrote:Its the same definition of an assist (with or without goal).
Example: Xavi provided 74 assists this season (just 12 of them ended with agoal).

So thats a final pass. Sweet. Are there stats available for a Key Pass?

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Post by windkick Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:51 am

Thanks Khaled Smile
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:01 am

I'll post this here

Directly contributed league points (G+A) 12-13

38 Messi
14 Fabregas
11 Villa
11 Alexis
7 Xavi
5 Tello
5 Pedro
5 Iniesta
3 Thiago
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Post by free_cat Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:42 pm

That's wrong, Adriano won us at least a couple of matches.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jun 17, 2013 12:57 pm

Yeah, left out defensive players because it's not really their statistic.

Adriano 2
Alves 2
Alba 2
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Post by free_cat Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:13 pm

Harmonica wrote:Yeah, left out defensive players because it's not really their statistic.

Adriano 2
Alves 2
Alba 2

I don't know how this stat is done, but it's clearly wrong. Adriano scored the 1st goal vs. Valencia, Getafe, Celta de Vigo and Atletico.
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Post by MaraVilla Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm

man the goal spread from the last 2 seasons are atrocious No. Really hope next season it will be more spread out between our forwards.

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Post by Harmonica Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:25 pm

free_cat wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Yeah, left out defensive players because it's not really their statistic.

Adriano 2
Alves 2
Alba 2

I don't know how this stat is done, but it's clearly wrong. Adriano scored the 1st goal vs. Valencia, Getafe, Celta de Vigo and Atletico.
It's done by taking their stats out and looking how many points Barca lose. It measures the importance of the direct statistics, and/or how well the team plays. 1 goal in example 3-2 win is more important than 1 goal in 5-0 win. From those goals only against Valencia gave 2 points.
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Post by free_cat Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:54 pm

Very stupid stat.
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Post by CBarca Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:48 pm

free_cat wrote:Very stupid stat.

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Post by kiranr Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:52 am

That does not make sense Jiopsi. Why would the first goal in a 3-2 win be more important than the first goal in a 5-0 win? IMO, that should be of equal importance.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:52 am

Because it's needed for the 3 points, goal in 5-0 isn't. Take away it and Barca lose 2 points, take away goal from 5-0, and the team were still good enough to get 3 points. It measures clutchness and importance.
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Post by kiranr Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:59 am

You cannot look at the overall score and measure clutchness or importance. You have to look at the situation before the goal was scored. How late into the match was the goal scored? What was the scoreline when the goal was scored? For example, the first goal scored at 40th minute of 5-0 match is, IMO, relatively clutch than the first goal scored in the 10th minute of a 3-2 win, provided the scores were 0-0 in both instances before the goal was scored.

Looking at the overall score fails to take this into consideration.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:44 am

kiranr wrote:You cannot look at the overall score and measure clutchness or importance. You have to look at the situation before the goal was scored. How late into the match was the goal scored? What was the scoreline when the goal was scored? For example, the first goal scored at 40th minute of 5-0 match is, IMO, relatively clutch than the first goal scored in the 10th minute of a 3-2 win, provided the scores were 0-0 in both instances before the goal was scored.

Looking at the overall score fails to take this into consideration.
Of course you can, just like you can count goals and assists. Their difficulty and importance is also individually different, but in statistic laws of average tends to average things out. If Adriano scored 1 first goal which did matter, and one that didn't, chances are, that others did too. When scoreline is more even, own team plays worse/ opponent better, goals are more important.

Statistics aren't the whole truth, but they are indication of the truth.
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Post by kiranr Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:02 am


I agree if we are talking about the entire length of a player's career. But, IMO, one season is too short to measure importance by looking at the overall score. If the means is there, which it is, the data should be recorded precisely.

If we are looking at the clutch factor of Maradona, then i agree with your methodology as it would average out. But,over one season, i am doubtful.
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Post by Harmonica Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:57 am

Well it's the same with goals and assists, and with every statistic. The bigger the sample size, the better it is. This was just the way to delve deeper, from just goals and assists. And like you said, you can go even deeper by looking them even more carefully. But you can't never find a perfect equation to 100% accurately point the overall quality by a number.

Player 1 is better
-> scored more ->> scored more important goals
-> created more
->> assisted more ->>> assisted more important goals
->> made more key passes
->> made more throughballs
->> dribbled more ->>> dribble that led to a goal ->>>> dribble that led to a more important goal

and so on...
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