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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:00 pm

Some Jimmies are going to get rustled to oblivion soon.

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Post by stevieg8 Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:26 am

RealGunner wrote:Luis Suárez and his agent adamant he can leave Liverpool via £40m clause. Striker open to Premier League stepping in.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/luis-suarez-pins-hopes-on-premier-league-settling-liverpoolarsenal-standoff-8732679.html

that article would be a lot more interesting if there were quotes or sources to anything they were saying. i'll believe it when i hear something more official or confirmed at all.
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Post by Red Alert Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:31 am

Lex wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Arsenal wouldn't really be much of a progression if he moves there
Goes from playing no CL football, to playing CL football. Yep, no progression that I can see

When has Luis came out and said CL football is the main reason he wants to leave?

Stop listening to the English tabloids making up rubbish. They've been trying to get rid of him from Liverpool since 2012.

The last thing he has said is he'd leave England if he was to leave Liverpool.

You've missed out on Higgy, Jovetic and Rooney now. You're going to miss out on Luis. Who's your next target? Cesc?

It's a shame really. Really thought Arsenal could of pushed on and fought for the league if you made a couple of signings...
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Post by Nishankly Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:38 am

Bernard as well, Probably to Porto Razz

Damn i thought playing every year in the CL gives you an edge over inconsistent teams or teams with projects.
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Post by Red Alert Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:49 am

Ganso suggests Arsenal never put a bid in. He seems reliable when it comes to transfers coming from Brazil. We'll leave that one out. Razz
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:59 pm

Police investigate Luis Suarez death threats as Ian Ayre insists Liverpool won’t sell

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/26/police-investigate-luis-suarez-death-threats-as-ian-ayre-insists-liverpool-wont-sell-3899684/
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Post by McAgger Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:03 pm

Before people start generalizing the whole fan base, every club in the world has idiots like that and frankly they are a shame to humanity.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:05 pm

Yh Mc is right.
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Post by stevieg8 Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:12 pm

RealGunner wrote:Police investigate Luis Suarez death threats as Ian Ayre insists Liverpool won’t sell

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/26/police-investigate-luis-suarez-death-threats-as-ian-ayre-insists-liverpool-wont-sell-3899684/

:facepalm: great way to get him to stay, guys, who doesn't want to play for a fan base that threatens to kill you if you leave?
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:24 pm

Meh idiots everywhere. I find it funny that a guy from Nigeria threatening him Laughing

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Post by Red Alert Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:21 am

Who's your next target RG?

It's been fun Arsenal fans. Lex must be a relieved man right now. :coffee:

Also Laughing at Piers Morgan.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:23 am

All the death threats have done is give him a legit excuse to demand a transfer.

And the club could look terrible in PR terms if they tell a man who's getting death threats he has to play infront of 50,000 potential assassins every week Proud

Stupid, but logical.
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Post by Red Alert Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:28 am

I doubt there's going to be 50,000 Nigerians at Anfield.

Firstly, it only holds around 45k people, and secondly it's just TWO stupid people that don't even look like they reside in England.
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Post by Onyx Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:43 pm

Wenger on Suarez:

I don't want to speak about Suarez, because that is between Liverpool and Arsenal. We will completely respect what Liverpool wants to do. We want to (sign the player) if it is feasible in an amicable way.

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Post by Raptorgunner Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:30 pm

RealGunner wrote:Meh idiots everywhere. I find it funny that a guy from Nigeria threatening him Laughing


rofl rofl
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Post by RealGunner Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:48 pm

Please stay on topic
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Post by The_Badger Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:13 pm

Stay on topic. Thumbs up 

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Post by Onyx Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:53 pm

Luis Suarez will consider submitting a formal transfer request and the possibility of court action if his Liverpool dispute is not resolved, say sources close to the player.

It is understood that when Suarez signed a new contract in August 2012, he requested a clause that allowed him to depart if Liverpool failed to qualify for the Champions League and received a bid in excess of £40m.

Liverpool refused this but suggested an arrangement that obliged them to act in good faith if those conditions were met, which Suarez argues he only accepted because he felt there was verbal agreement from all parties that - despite the new wording - it would work in the same way as a release clause.

While Liverpool are confident that from a legal perspective their position stands up to scrutiny - and Suarez reluctantly agrees - the player is adamant the Reds have gone back on their word and feels let down.

He has informed Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers of his desire to leave for Champions League football and the only proposal on the table is from Arsenal, with reported interest from Real Madrid failing to materialise.

Whereas Liverpool have not played in the Champions League since 2009 and missed out on European qualification altogether for next season, Arsenal will feature in the competition for a 17th consecutive campaign.

Sources close to Suarez say he will consider taking his case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport  and he did go down a similar route when Dutch side Groningen turned down an offer from Ajax  for his services in 2007.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23550760

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Post by Lex Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:21 am

Has it really been 4 years since 'Pool were in the CL? Shocked
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Post by Nishankly Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:28 am

That BBC article is copied from the Mirror. John Cross first reported.

Its all speculation and no sources. What makes me so angry is these *bleep* had the cheek to do this before one of the best players in Liverpool's and arguably England's history has a testimonial game.

Just *bleep* off, Trying to ruin an important game for LFC fans, This game means a lot everyone at Liverpool.
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Post by Nishankly Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:30 am

Also BBC has lost all credibility, All they do nowdays is copy and post an article the moment it becomes big on twitter.
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Post by RedOranje Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:38 am

Counterpoint(s):
From the BBC article itself.

While Liverpool are confident that from a legal perspective their position stands up to scrutiny - and Suarez reluctantly agrees - the player is adamant the Reds have gone back on their word and feels let down.


From a journalist who actually has a history of being (relatively) accurate on LFC & LFC player-related materials.
Luis Suarez unmoved by Arsenal's provocative bid for Liverpool striker as Uruguayan's exit clause not triggered
Liverpool’s hardline stance that Luis Suárez will not be sold to Arsenal for less than £50 million has been reinforced by the striker’s failure to challenge the nature of the clause in his deal.

Suárez has made no representation to the Premier League to seek adjudication on whether Arsenal’s provocative bid of one pound over £40 million obliged Liverpool to sell.

Arsenal believed their offer, submitted last week, would trigger an exit clause in the Uruguayan’s contract, a suggestion the Anfield board rejected instantly.

Liverpool are unmoved by any suggestion there is any ambiguity and are adamant if the Premier League was to adjudicate on any dispute the club’s position would be validated further.

The lack of any approach does not suggest confidence on the part of the striker’s advisers. Club lawyers and those of Fenway Sports Group are definite about the details of Suárez’s contract and believe the 26-year-old’s agent, Pere Guardiola, is well aware Arsenal’s £40 million bid was far too low.

“We’ve all examined the clause in detail,” a senior Liverpool figure said. “All it obliges is for us to enter good faith negotiations about Luis’s future. There is absolutely no obligation to sell and that is very clear.”



Liverpool themselves could request the Premier League to ask Arsenal on what basis they bid £40,000,001. It is contrary to League regulations for a rival club to be given access to confidential contract details of an opposing player. There are no Liverpool plans at this stage to pursue a complaint against the Londoners, although at the highest level of the Merseyside club there is a feeling bidding an additional pound was "rubbing Liverpool’s noses in it".

It has ensured no further approaches by Arsenal are welcome at Anfield.

Liverpool, meanwhile, have agreed a loan deal for Benfica left back Lorenzo Melgarejo but will require a work permit if they are to proceed with signing of the Paraguay international.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10212420/Luis-Suarez-unmoved-by-Arsenals-provocative-bid-for-Liverpool-striker-as-Uruguayans-exit-clause-not-triggered.html


Bit funny that no-one bothered to post any of the 10+ articles reporting that Suarez wouldn't be taking the issue to court at all with quotes from legitimate sources on the material. At the first sign of some drama though there's an article popping up within an hour, despite a complete and utter lack of quotes or identifiable sources.
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Post by The_Badger Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:42 am

Where's the quotes from legitimate sources?

The articles are just as ambiguous as each other.

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Post by RedOranje Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:50 am

Except for the specific quotes regarding the contract in The Telegraph's article, sure.
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Post by The_Badger Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:55 am

Again: where's the quotes from legitimate sources?

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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Aug 03, 2013 12:56 am

What is "good faith" negotiations?  I don't understand the point of that clause if LFC can completely circumnavigate it regardless.

it seems to be an implied buyout clause but not a true buyout clause.. so again, whats the point?

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