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Post by DeletedUser#1 Mon May 20, 2013 4:46 pm

When UEFA meets for its executive committee meeting this week in London there is a very good chance, I understand, that it will ratify a measure to boost the Europa League – from the 2015-16 season the winner of the Europa League will automatically qualify for the following season’s Champions League.

It is an idea that has been under discussion for some time. In February, at the general assembly of the European Club Association (ECA), which represents 207 European clubs, 61% of clubs said they would back offering the Europa League winner, or both finalists, direct access to the Champions League group stage.

The Europa League’s ‘problem’ lies in the differential in commercial terms between it and the Champions League. It’s the difference between 48 teams sharing Eur200 million and 32 teams sharing Eur1 billion, with all that implies for the motivation levels of the big clubs to select their best players.

The competition has had some bad press. The Guardian newspaper’s online match reporters only ever refer to it as ‘Little Cup’ (the Champions League being, of course, ‘Big Cup’). Some top clubs have grumbled about being ‘punished’ by having to play in it, while others have called it the ‘losers’ cup.’

With all the sniping, it is very easy to overlook one thing: for all its limitations, the Europa League has been a considerable commercial success. While romantics still yearn for a return to the purity of the European Cup, the forerunner of the Champions League, you rarely hear much nostalgia for the UEFA Cup, from which the Europa League evolved.

The competition morphed into its new identity gradually, over a period of six or seven years. First of all UEFA carried out a rolling centralisation of the sale of commercial rights to the UEFA Cup, laying the ground for a full re-launch in the 2009-10 season, with the Europa League brand, coordinated colour schemes, sponsored match ball, theme tune and the works.

After just three years, as UEFA, and its marketing partner Team, headed into the second cycle of commercial agreements, the competition had exceeded expectations on revenue, generating significant interest from sponsors, broadcasters and fans in Europe and beyond.

Research showed that among European football supporters, 75% of fans were “interested” in the competition. Global television audiences were rising by about 10% each season. Television rights fees were showing some remarkable leaps in value around the world – up in Africa by 500%, in the Americas by 200% and in the Middle East by 150%. Visibility on social media platforms was increasing by over 30% each season.

At the same ECA assembly in Doha in February, 75% of ECA members expressed their “satisfaction” or “extreme satisfaction” with the current structure of UEFA club competitions, with 92% believing that the Champions League and Europa League should continue to exist in parallel, heading off proposals for the Europa League to be scrapped and subsumed into an expanded Champions League.

This was followed by more reports of booming commercial revenues. TV Sports Markets revealed that media rights revenues in the 2012-13 to 2014-15 cycle were up by 20% on the previous cycle. Sports Sponsorship Insider revealed that sponsorship revenues were up by 14.5% on the previous cycle.

Watching last Wednesday’s Europa League final between Chelsea and Benfica it was easy to wonder what the problem was. It was a match of high quality between two of European football’s big clubs in a magnificent stadium. The whole thing looked great on TV and, of course, delivered a dramatic sting in the tail to keep viewers hooked till the end.

But here’s an insidious little question to close on: would Louis Kearns, the 11-year-old Liverpool lad who appeared on the winners’ podium with the Chelsea players, have got as far as shaking the hand of UEFA president Michel Platini, and almost collecting a winner’s medal, if this had been the Champions League final?

http://www.soccerex.com/media-centre/soccerex-blog/uefa-set-to-beef-up-europa-league/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

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Post by Firenze Mon May 20, 2013 4:56 pm

I've got no issues with that.
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Post by Casciavit Mon May 20, 2013 5:11 pm

About time
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Post by Ausi90 Mon May 20, 2013 5:12 pm

This could be turn out great. Now teams from England, France, Italy, etc. will take it more seriously which in turns make the competition so much more competitive and popular.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 20, 2013 5:13 pm

Maybe Pardew wouldn't have rested key players in EL quarter finals for Fulham at home if this rule was already in effect :brickwall:
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Post by SaintJoe Mon May 20, 2013 5:14 pm

Really interesting decision!
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Post by LeBéninois Mon May 20, 2013 5:19 pm

cheers

El to be taken seriously now
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Post by zizzle Mon May 20, 2013 5:29 pm

That's a good idea but it's still a long shot for teams in the EL to make it to the CL. Maybe big teams that are having a bad season and Tottenham will take it more seriously, but trying to win such a long and tiring competition will be counter productive if you're trying to get to the CL
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon May 20, 2013 5:31 pm

zizzle wrote:That's a good idea but it's still a long shot for teams in the EL to make it to the CL. Maybe big teams that are having a bad season and Tottenham will take itn more seriously, but trying to win such a long and tiring competition will be counter productive if you're trying to get to the CL

I wouldn't say so really we got to the Quarter finals and we are not that good.

Best team we beat on the way was Anzhi and they are pretty shit Eto'o aside.

So i'm sure there's many teams who could get closer if they took it seriously.
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Post by RealGunner Mon May 20, 2013 5:31 pm

so if a non top 4 team from the PL (i.e Swansea hypothetically) wins the EL. PL will have 5 teams in the CL ? I am sure UEFA won't let that happen.
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Post by zizzle Mon May 20, 2013 5:36 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
zizzle wrote:That's a good idea but it's still a long shot for teams in the EL to make it to the CL. Maybe big teams that are having a bad season and Tottenham will take itn more seriously, but trying to win such a long and tiring competition will be counter productive if you're trying to get to the CL

I wouldn't say so really we got to the Quarter finals and we are not that good.

Best team we beat on the way was Anzhi and they are pretty shit Eto'o aside.

So i'm sure there's many teams who could get closer if they took it seriously.


Maybe Newcastle had had favorable draw but the EL hurt both Inter and Lazio more than it helped them
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Post by 1991 Mon May 20, 2013 5:41 pm

that.
RealGunner wrote:so if a non top 4 team from the PL (i.e Swansea hypothetically) wins the EL. PL will have 5 teams in the CL ? I am sure UEFA won't let that happen.

Ye they won't, UEFA doesn't like the power English clubs have, After having 5 teams in the 2005/2006 year they changed the rules ASAP.
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Post by zizzle Mon May 20, 2013 5:52 pm

now imagine if both the EL and the CL winners were EPL teams that didnt make the top 4 banana
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon May 20, 2013 6:29 pm

Been saying it for longer than I can remember ffs.

Boom, simple. Now clubs who aren't shit but don't have the squad to compete with their leagues best will actually try.

For example, Tottenham and Udinese have some sound starting XI's from time to time, but they really struggle to Automatically qualify for Europe yet they could both be serious contenders for the Europa league.
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Post by Emaharg Mon May 20, 2013 6:38 pm

I have always thought this would happen logically to make it less of a joke competition and something every team would try to win.
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Post by Art Morte Mon May 20, 2013 6:39 pm

Hopefully this happens.

In a dream world they'd take, say €100m from the CL and add that to EL's prize monies.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon May 20, 2013 6:45 pm

Nah the solution is not to weaken the best competition to make the 2nd best one look better.

The CL is the pinnacle of club football, and the rewards should be too.
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Post by Art Morte Mon May 20, 2013 6:57 pm

Clubs wouldn't take the CL any less seriously even if 100m euros disappeared from the prize pool and clubs in the EL would probably take that competition a bit more seriously = overall better football. But it won't happen so that's that.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon May 20, 2013 6:59 pm

About damn time. Wouldn't mind both finalists getting it either. Don't see why this can't be implemented for the 2014/15 season.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Mon May 20, 2013 7:02 pm

Yeah it's stupid how changes take so long to implement. The people who make the rules want it to happen, and they still give themselves a massively overstretched timeframe to do it in.
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Post by Lex Mon May 20, 2013 7:07 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Wouldn't mind both finalists getting it either
Why should coming 2nd be rewarded so handsomely?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon May 20, 2013 7:12 pm

Lex wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Wouldn't mind both finalists getting it either
Why should coming 2nd be rewarded so handsomely?
Because they're a proven team in the knockout competition model and would motivate teams to try harder in the EL, thereby giving it more importance.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon May 20, 2013 7:15 pm

finally a decision any sane person would have done ages ago
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Post by Error Mon May 20, 2013 7:15 pm

This is good and bad.

The good thing is that it makes winning EL more tempting. This rule could even expanded to finalists or perhaps even semi-finalists to make it more rewarding for more teams.

The bad thing is that it's a quite big chance that one of the teams is already a CL team which has been eliminated earlier. So CL teams eliminated in the group stages shouldn't be allowed to be in EL then, otherwise is just another back door for a losers.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon May 20, 2013 7:17 pm

that's a really good point actually

if the winner qualifies for CL then I think they should abolish this third placed team goes to EL bs because it will just mean they can fight on two fronts to get CL next season


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