Top 5 Best Wingers

I'm not a barca fan

I can watch him once in 2 years and still no more than you who watches him every week, because you dont actually actually know what your talking about.

Oh and that whoscored shows that Cristiano is not on the wing...perhaps you need to figure out where the wing is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MFCNOkYw-E

Jesus navas. the prototypical winger

at 0:10, hes in the center
0:15. on the wing
all his touches are on the wing until 1:16
1:46 again in the center
1:50.. again in the center
2:25.. guess where navas is?
3:03

So by your definition. Navas is an ATTACKING MIDFIELDER. NOT A winger.

And ronaldo is much more of a winger then him.

Why does the rule have to apply for wingers that they have to just be typical cross it in the box wingers?

In football people (gasp) CHANGE POSITIONS. NOTHING is set in stone.

/end ronaldo argument

Giggity5313 wrote:

The Franchise wrote:

Yohan Modric wrote:What website are those Ronaldo graphs from?

Also just because he isn't on the wing, doesn't mean he isn't a winger. Wingers can have the license to roam around depending on the role. By wingers I don't mean traditional winger, I just mean a player on the wing, who can have different roles.

IF HE AINT ON THE WING, HE IS NOT A WINGER.

Please stop.

I'm sure that game he was playing center forward

And wingers don't have to stay on the wing rigidly. That's pure bullshit. That's like saying because benzema drops into midfield, he isn't a striker

Now, where does cristiano have most of his first touches? On the wing.

Stuff it.

What game? I put a game, Mole put a seperate game...do you even know what your watching.

Stop being a fanboy, your more see through that glass.

The reason your so upset is because you want to use the "Cristiano scores X amount of goals as a winger"...when in fact, anyone can see, he is not a winger.

The Franchise wrote:

I can watch him once in 2 years and still no more than you who watches him every week, because you dont actually actually know what your talking about.

Great argument. Really proves your case

top 5 wingers in my opinion

Ronaldo
Ribery
robben (on form)
Navas
di maria

The Franchise wrote:Stop being a fanboy, your more see through that glass.

The reason your so upset is because you want to use the "Cristiano scores X amount of goals as a winger"...when in fact, anyone can see, he is not a winger.

When did i say he scores x amount of goals?

I want to see that crystal ball you have

So just because anyone says it on GL i should be a sheep and follow them?

I present you facts, all you do is say "blah blah well popular opinion says this so dont say otherwise"

The Franchise wrote:Nope, incorrect.

If a winger roams around and is no longer on the wing, he is no longer a winger.

If a striker roams around (Messi), is he no longer a striker?

No, he still is a striker, because he's playing the false 9 role. Same with Ronaldo who roams around because he's playing the goalscoring role.

Another example.

Dani alves is usually so high up the pitch that you could say he is a winger. Is he? no hes a fullback..

Yohan Modric wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Nope, incorrect.

If a winger roams around and is no longer on the wing, he is no longer a winger.

If a striker roams around (Messi), is he no longer a striker?

No, he still is a striker, because he's playing the false 9 role. Same with Ronaldo who roams around because he's playing the goalscoring role.

Are you asking me if Messi is a striker, because the answer is no he isnt.

Giggity5313 wrote:Another example.

Dani alves is usually so high up the pitch that you could say he is a winger. Is he? no hes a fullback..

Poor poor example, nothing to do with anything im talking about.

Which winger is the primary defender of the opponants more advanced left sided player?

My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.

Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.

Messi is a striker/forward/attacker?

Messi "is" whatever he likes..he moves wherever he likes, when he likes....

What striker do you know which shares sideways passes with midfielders on a consistent basis?

Messi's main position is striker/attacker/forward and his role is a false 9, which allows him to do whatever he likes/roam around.

Just like there are forwards who are finishers like Falcao, Higuain etc.

The Franchise wrote:My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.

Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.

im a ronaldo fan boy

whats more is that you're a ronaldo hater and admit it, so stop the double standards.

What does this have to do with ronaldo being a winger
No one said popular opinion? please. you were like "everyone says ronaldo isnt a winger" Do you read what you write?

And do you know me personally? No, so how am i see through. lol ok

Please stop.

The Franchise wrote:Please stop.

You can't counter my arguments, so that's your best response.

Not buying it. If I don't get a good reason why should I stop?

Giggity5313 wrote:

The Franchise wrote:My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.

Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.

im a ronaldo fan boy

whats more is that you're a ronaldo hater and admit it, so stop the double standards.

What does this have to do with ronaldo being a winger

I can be a hater if you like, doesnt change the obvious facts.

Again, go look at the average positions in various posts, theres ben 3 in this thread already..all showing Cristiano not playing on the wing.

Your little youtube videos showing him recieve the ball on the wing on some occassions (I assume thats what it showed, I couldnt even be bothered watching them because you didnt embed) do not trump this.

Trying to disprove the fact Ronaldo isn't a winger when it clearly states in every single one of his post match average position graphics he plays central with the fullback providing width

Really couldn't make it up

Giggity5313 wrote:

The Franchise wrote:Please stop.

You can't counter my arguments, so that's your best response.

Not buying it. If I don't get a good reason why should I stop?

Slow your role, it was directed at someone else.

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Trying to disprove the fact Ronaldo isn't a winger when it clearly states in every single one of his post match average position graphics he plays central with the fullback providing width

Really couldn't make it up

Heat maps provide much more info then just his "average position"..

When you look at the heat map vs munich for instance he is on the wing the whole time..

The Franchise wrote:

Giggity5313 wrote:

The Franchise wrote:My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.

Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.

im a ronaldo fan boy

whats more is that you're a ronaldo hater and admit it, so stop the double standards.

What does this have to do with ronaldo being a winger

I can be a hater if you like, doesnt change the obvious facts.

Again, go look at the average positions in various posts, theres ben 3 in this thread already..all showing Cristiano not playing on the wing.

Your little youtube videos showing him recieve the ball on the wing on some occassions (I assume thats what it showed, I couldnt even be bothered watching them because you didnt embed) do not trump this.

Actually it does trump that

Ronaldo recieves the ball on the wing for almost 90% of the time in that video

While navas, even while playing our crappy fullbacks, doesn't even recieve the ball 70% of the time on the wing.

This shows that to be a winger, you do not need to hug the touchline 24/7.. a winger is a winger

vs man u

vs czech in euros

O.o still not a winger? ok

Giggity5313 wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Trying to disprove the fact Ronaldo isn't a winger when it clearly states in every single one of his post match average position graphics he plays central with the fullback providing width

Really couldn't make it up

Heat maps provide much more info then just his "average position"..

When you look at the heat map vs munich for instance he is on the wing the whole time..

He spends most of his time in central areas i don't care if he moves to the wing.... most of the time he positions himself in central positions thus he can't be a winger.

Before anyone says it nor can Di Maria really i mean he practically plays CM for Argentina for gods sake.

Have you not been claiming about lack of width all season? if Di Maria and Ronaldo are wingers then how can this be ?