Top 5 Best Wingers
+25
billy_gr
RealGunner
Doc
Mr Nick09
The Sanchez
Gil
TheRedStag
Albiceleste
guest7
FennecFox7
Juveman17
Valkyrja
Abramovich
The Nature Boy
Great Leader Sprucenuce
The Franchise
VivaStPauli
Arquitecto
Kick
LeBĂ©ninois
rwo power
McAgger
Kaladin
Onyx
juventus101
29 posters
Page 4 of 9
Page 4 of 9 • 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
I'm not a barca fan
The Nature Boy- First Team
- Posts : 1449
Join date : 2011-06-06
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
I can watch him once in 2 years and still no more than you who watches him every week, because you dont actually actually know what your talking about.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Oh and that whoscored shows that Cristiano is not on the wing...perhaps you need to figure out where the wing is?
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MFCNOkYw-E
Jesus navas. the prototypical winger
at 0:10, hes in the center
0:15. on the wing
all his touches are on the wing until 1:16
1:46 again in the center
1:50.. again in the center
2:25.. guess where navas is?
3:03
So by your definition. Navas is an ATTACKING MIDFIELDER. NOT A winger.
And ronaldo is much more of a winger then him.
Why does the rule have to apply for wingers that they have to just be typical cross it in the box wingers?
In football people (gasp) CHANGE POSITIONS. NOTHING is set in stone.
/end ronaldo argument
Jesus navas. the prototypical winger
at 0:10, hes in the center
0:15. on the wing
all his touches are on the wing until 1:16
1:46 again in the center
1:50.. again in the center
2:25.. guess where navas is?
3:03
So by your definition. Navas is an ATTACKING MIDFIELDER. NOT A winger.
And ronaldo is much more of a winger then him.
Why does the rule have to apply for wingers that they have to just be typical cross it in the box wingers?
In football people (gasp) CHANGE POSITIONS. NOTHING is set in stone.
/end ronaldo argument
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Giggity5313 wrote:The Franchise wrote:Yohan Modric wrote:What website are those Ronaldo graphs from?
Also just because he isn't on the wing, doesn't mean he isn't a winger. Wingers can have the license to roam around depending on the role. By wingers I don't mean traditional winger, I just mean a player on the wing, who can have different roles.
IF HE AINT ON THE WING, HE IS NOT A WINGER.
Please stop.
I'm sure that game he was playing center forward
And wingers don't have to stay on the wing rigidly. That's pure bullshit. That's like saying because benzema drops into midfield, he isn't a striker
Now, where does cristiano have most of his first touches? On the wing.
Stuff it.
What game? I put a game, Mole put a seperate game...do you even know what your watching.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Stop being a fanboy, your more see through that glass.
The reason your so upset is because you want to use the "Cristiano scores X amount of goals as a winger"...when in fact, anyone can see, he is not a winger.
The reason your so upset is because you want to use the "Cristiano scores X amount of goals as a winger"...when in fact, anyone can see, he is not a winger.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
The Franchise wrote:
I can watch him once in 2 years and still no more than you who watches him every week, because you dont actually actually know what your talking about.
Great argument. Really proves your case
top 5 wingers in my opinion
Ronaldo
Ribery
robben (on form)
Navas
di maria
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
The Franchise wrote:Stop being a fanboy, your more see through that glass.
The reason your so upset is because you want to use the "Cristiano scores X amount of goals as a winger"...when in fact, anyone can see, he is not a winger.
When did i say he scores x amount of goals?
I want to see that crystal ball you have
So just because anyone says it on GL i should be a sheep and follow them?
I present you facts, all you do is say "blah blah well popular opinion says this so dont say otherwise"
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
The Franchise wrote:Nope, incorrect.
If a winger roams around and is no longer on the wing, he is no longer a winger.
If a striker roams around (Messi), is he no longer a striker?
No, he still is a striker, because he's playing the false 9 role. Same with Ronaldo who roams around because he's playing the goalscoring role.
Onyx- Forum Legend
- Club Supported :
Posts : 40130
Join date : 2011-06-05
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Another example.
Dani alves is usually so high up the pitch that you could say he is a winger. Is he? no hes a fullback..
Dani alves is usually so high up the pitch that you could say he is a winger. Is he? no hes a fullback..
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Yohan Modric wrote:The Franchise wrote:Nope, incorrect.
If a winger roams around and is no longer on the wing, he is no longer a winger.
If a striker roams around (Messi), is he no longer a striker?
No, he still is a striker, because he's playing the false 9 role. Same with Ronaldo who roams around because he's playing the goalscoring role.
Are you asking me if Messi is a striker, because the answer is no he isnt.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Giggity5313 wrote:Another example.
Dani alves is usually so high up the pitch that you could say he is a winger. Is he? no hes a fullback..
Poor poor example, nothing to do with anything im talking about.
Which winger is the primary defender of the opponants more advanced left sided player?
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.
Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.
Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Messi is a striker/forward/attacker?
Onyx- Forum Legend
- Club Supported :
Posts : 40130
Join date : 2011-06-05
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Messi "is" whatever he likes..he moves wherever he likes, when he likes....
What striker do you know which shares sideways passes with midfielders on a consistent basis?
What striker do you know which shares sideways passes with midfielders on a consistent basis?
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Messi's main position is striker/attacker/forward and his role is a false 9, which allows him to do whatever he likes/roam around.
Just like there are forwards who are finishers like Falcao, Higuain etc.
Just like there are forwards who are finishers like Falcao, Higuain etc.
Onyx- Forum Legend
- Club Supported :
Posts : 40130
Join date : 2011-06-05
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
The Franchise wrote:My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.
Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.
im a ronaldo fan boy
whats more is that you're a ronaldo hater and admit it, so stop the double standards.
What does this have to do with ronaldo being a winger
No one said popular opinion? please. you were like "everyone says ronaldo isnt a winger" Do you read what you write?
And do you know me personally? No, so how am i see through. lol ok
Last edited by Giggity5313 on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 23:17; edited 1 time in total
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Please stop.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
The Franchise wrote:Please stop.
You can't counter my arguments, so that's your best response.
Not buying it. If I don't get a good reason why should I stop?
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Giggity5313 wrote:The Franchise wrote:My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.
Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.
im a ronaldo fan boy
whats more is that you're a ronaldo hater and admit it, so stop the double standards.
What does this have to do with ronaldo being a winger
I can be a hater if you like, doesnt change the obvious facts.
Again, go look at the average positions in various posts, theres ben 3 in this thread already..all showing Cristiano not playing on the wing.
Your little youtube videos showing him recieve the ball on the wing on some occassions (I assume thats what it showed, I couldnt even be bothered watching them because you didnt embed) do not trump this.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Trying to disprove the fact Ronaldo isn't a winger when it clearly states in every single one of his post match average position graphics he plays central with the fullback providing width
Really couldn't make it up
Really couldn't make it up
Last edited by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 23:20; edited 1 time in total
Great Leader Sprucenuce- Forum Legend
- Club Supported :
Posts : 68989
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 34
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Giggity5313 wrote:The Franchise wrote:Please stop.
You can't counter my arguments, so that's your best response.
Not buying it. If I don't get a good reason why should I stop?
Slow your role, it was directed at someone else.
The Franchise- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 19651
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 38
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Trying to disprove the fact Ronaldo isn't a winger when it clearly states in every single one of his post match average position graphics he plays central with the fullback providing width
Really couldn't make it up
Heat maps provide much more info then just his "average position"..
When you look at the heat map vs munich for instance he is on the wing the whole time..
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
The Franchise wrote:Giggity5313 wrote:The Franchise wrote:My case? My case was 3 pages ago, if your not bothered to go read it I cannot help you. No said popular opinion at all, again go read.
Crystal ball? I dont need one, your more see through than glass as I said. You dont have to say anything.
im a ronaldo fan boy
whats more is that you're a ronaldo hater and admit it, so stop the double standards.
What does this have to do with ronaldo being a winger
I can be a hater if you like, doesnt change the obvious facts.
Again, go look at the average positions in various posts, theres ben 3 in this thread already..all showing Cristiano not playing on the wing.
Your little youtube videos showing him recieve the ball on the wing on some occassions (I assume thats what it showed, I couldnt even be bothered watching them because you didnt embed) do not trump this.
Actually it does trump that
Ronaldo recieves the ball on the wing for almost 90% of the time in that video
While navas, even while playing our crappy fullbacks, doesn't even recieve the ball 70% of the time on the wing.
This shows that to be a winger, you do not need to hug the touchline 24/7.. a winger is a winger
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
vs man u
vs czech in euros
O.o still not a winger? ok
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Top 5 Best Wingers
Giggity5313 wrote:Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Trying to disprove the fact Ronaldo isn't a winger when it clearly states in every single one of his post match average position graphics he plays central with the fullback providing width
Really couldn't make it up
Heat maps provide much more info then just his "average position"..
When you look at the heat map vs munich for instance he is on the wing the whole time..
He spends most of his time in central areas i don't care if he moves to the wing.... most of the time he positions himself in central positions thus he can't be a winger.
Before anyone says it nor can Di Maria really i mean he practically plays CM for Argentina for gods sake.
Have you not been claiming about lack of width all season? if Di Maria and Ronaldo are wingers then how can this be ?
Great Leader Sprucenuce- Forum Legend
- Club Supported :
Posts : 68989
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 34
Page 4 of 9 • 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Similar topics
» Do we really need wingers?
» So many wingers but who will stay?
» Rank United/Bayern/Reals Wingers
» Left Wingers Juventus are After...
» Goallegacy's best Wingers of 2011
» So many wingers but who will stay?
» Rank United/Bayern/Reals Wingers
» Left Wingers Juventus are After...
» Goallegacy's best Wingers of 2011
Page 4 of 9
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Today at 18:54 by Lord Spencer
» The Official PlayStation 1 Gaming Threads
Today at 18:54 by Lord Spencer
» The US Politics Thread
Today at 07:46 by Vibe
» Miguel "Miguelito" Gutierrez
Today at 00:43 by Cyborg
» David Coote appreciation thread
Yesterday at 19:27 by Clutch
» The Official Dwayne Wade <<<<<< you thread
Yesterday at 09:00 by Vibe
» Soundtrack/Epic Music Appreciation Thread
Yesterday at 01:13 by Pedram
» Leicester have sacked Claudio Ranieri
Wed 13 Nov 2024, 20:20 by Thimmy
» Ruben Amorim Sack Watch
Wed 13 Nov 2024, 18:59 by the xcx
» Chillout Music!
Wed 13 Nov 2024, 16:18 by Thimmy
» GL NBA fantasy 24-25
Wed 13 Nov 2024, 07:10 by Vibe
» The Music Room
Tue 12 Nov 2024, 22:35 by Pedram
» Manchester United Part V / ETH Sack Watch
Tue 12 Nov 2024, 13:49 by Arquitecto