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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:44 am

Why even list Very Good players when there's no way you could even name 10% of them in that graphic?

Also Maldini deserves to be on Zidane's level. Either bump him up or bring Zidane down. A lot more I disagree with (Nilton Santos so low, no Bochini scratch, why is rooney there but not ibra? ) but whatever, everyone would make a different list.

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Post by Lex Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:10 am

futbol wrote:Henry doesn't belong in the God tier. 3 tiers above Spain's all-time top goalscorer? Don't think so..........

........................................Eto'o 2 tiers below Henry?
So what are you basing it on, goals or achievements? Cos Henry has plenty of both
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Post by Forza Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:00 am

Raul in Demi-God tier? But where is Inzaghi???
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Post by futbol Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:03 am

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futbol wrote:Henry doesn't belong in the God tier. 3 tiers above Spain's all-time top goalscorer? Don't think so..........

........................................Eto'o 2 tiers below Henry?
So what are you basing it on, goals or achievements? Cos Henry has plenty of both

Based on the comparisons with Villa and Eto'o. You can't have Henry 2 and 3 tiers above Eto'o and David Villa. Villa is Spain's all-time top goalscorer, top goalscorer in Spain's 2008 EC victory and 2010 WC victory (scored 5 out of Spain's 8 goals in the whole tournament and almost all goals were individual efforts as well) and he scored an absolute cracker in a CL final. For 10 consecutive seasons until his leg break he scored 20+ goals each and every season for 4 different clubs (Sporting Gijon, Zaragoza, Valencia and Barca) from LW or CF position with his left or with his right and he's a very good set piece taker as well. Henry has 391 career goals in 850 games (0.46 goals per game). Villa has 333 career goals in 652 games (0.51 goals per game). You can always discuss who is better (Henry might edge it for his superior ability to assist although Villa isn't a simple poacher either) but you can't claim that Henry is a whole 3 tiers above Villa. That's ridiculous. Surely even the most biased Arsenal fan will agree with this? And that's not a swipe at Henry.

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Post by Blue Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:04 am

No offense but those who are suggesting Iniesta is in the same tier as Zico and Platini are quite honestly nuts.

The tier groups are kinda horrendous, for starter Pele and Maradona are tier one by themselves. Guys like Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Di Stefano and a few others are a tier below those two.

Edit: oh good the more i look at it the worse it gets.
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Post by Lex Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:16 am

futbol wrote:
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futbol wrote:Henry doesn't belong in the God tier. 3 tiers above Spain's all-time top goalscorer? Don't think so..........

........................................Eto'o 2 tiers below Henry?
So what are you basing it on, goals or achievements? Cos Henry has plenty of both

Based on the comparisons with Villa and Eto'o. You can't have Henry 2 and 3 tiers above Eto'o and David Villa. Villa is Spain's all-time top goalscorer, top goalscorer in Spain's 2008 EC victory and 2010 WC victory (scored 5 out of Spain's 8 goals in the whole tournament and almost all goals were individual efforts as well) and he scored an absolute cracker in a CL final. For 10 consecutive seasons until his leg break he scored 20+ goals each and every season for 4 different clubs (Sporting Gijon, Zaragoza, Valencia and Barca) from LW or CF position with his left or with his right and he's a very good set piece taker as well. Henry has 391 career goals in 850 games (0.46 goals per game). Villa has 333 career goals in 652 games (0.51 goals per game). You can always discuss who is better (Henry might edge it for his superior ability to assist although Villa isn't a simple poacher either) but you can't claim that Henry is a whole 3 tiers above Villa. That's ridiculous. Surely even the most biased Arsenal fan will agree with this? And that's not a swipe at Henry.
so your madness What do you guys think about this category? - Page 2 Leonidas stems not from Henry being so high, but from Villa being so low?
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Post by REWB Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:21 am

futbol wrote:
Lex wrote:
futbol wrote:Henry doesn't belong in the God tier. 3 tiers above Spain's all-time top goalscorer? Don't think so..........

........................................Eto'o 2 tiers below Henry?
So what are you basing it on, goals or achievements? Cos Henry has plenty of both

Based on the comparisons with Villa and Eto'o. You can't have Henry 2 and 3 tiers above Eto'o and David Villa. Villa is Spain's all-time top goalscorer, top goalscorer in Spain's 2008 EC victory and 2010 WC victory (scored 5 out of Spain's 8 goals in the whole tournament and almost all goals were individual efforts as well) and he scored an absolute cracker in a CL final. For 10 consecutive seasons until his leg break he scored 20+ goals each and every season for 4 different clubs (Sporting Gijon, Zaragoza, Valencia and Barca) from LW or CF position with his left or with his right and he's a very good set piece taker as well. Henry has 391 career goals in 850 games (0.46 goals per game). Villa has 333 career goals in 652 games (0.51 goals per game). You can always discuss who is better (Henry might edge it for his superior ability to assist although Villa isn't a simple poacher either) but you can't claim that Henry is a whole 3 tiers above Villa. That's ridiculous. Surely even the most biased Arsenal fan will agree with this? And that's not a swipe at Henry.

my friend, where did you get your statistics from?
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Post by VanDeezNuts Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:22 am

Well no list is perfect. And this one is at least a good effort. biggest shock to me is Casillas being 2 tiers below Buffon.

And I personally would condense the GOAT list- take out Ronaldo, Zidane, Messi, and Esbusio.

Or at least if they are going to have those included they have to have Van Basten. Messi will inevitably be up there but for the time being, not yet.

Overall though - can't complain much

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Post by Jack Daniels Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:37 am

Forza Rossoneri wrote:Raul in Demi-God tier? But where is Inzaghi???
Inzaghi really?
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Post by Zlatan Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:02 am

From an unbiased POV, I don't find any glaring omissions or inclusions in any of the categories. It is surprising to see that actually.

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Post by futbol Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:33 am

REWB wrote:

my friend, where did you get your statistics from?

The career goals statistic? The English Wikipedia is a very good source for that. For example for Villa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Villa#Club

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Post by REWB Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:32 am

Zlatan wrote:From an unbiased POV, I don't find any glaring omissions or inclusions in any of the categories. It is surprising to see that actually.

LOOL
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Post by VivaStPauli Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:43 pm

Blue wrote:No offense but those who are suggesting Iniesta is in the same tier as Zico and Platini are quite honestly nuts.

The tier groups are kinda horrendous, for starter Pele and Maradona are tier one by themselves. Guys like Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Di Stefano and a few others are a tier below those two.

Edit: oh good the more i look at it the worse it gets.

GTFO
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Post by billy_gr Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:21 pm

Davids too low to take this seriously.

no it's actuallly a good one
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:56 pm

futbol wrote:

Meh. Shit list.


nOt a shit list . Actually more difficult to do than what it looks
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Post by Blue Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:31 pm

BTW where the *bleep* is Ballack?


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Post by The Franchise Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:28 pm

Blue wrote:BTW where the *bleep* is Ballack?



Good question Laughing

Its difficult to remember everyone to be fair.

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Post by Doc Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:40 pm

I would have placed Davids higher, drop Messi to God tier and raise Yashin to GOAT tier. Other than that, can't say I have much arguments. The majority are there where they should be.
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