Re: İlkay Gündoğan - Borussia Dortmund #8

by juventus101 Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:16 pm

As a team. Spain has ability. It shows that the players are qualuty, but because Spain won and Germany or Italy didnt doesnt mean specific Apanish players are better than their German or Italian counterparts.

by Onyx Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:56 pm

Italian and German players are individually better than Spanish players? There are Spanish players who are better than Italian and German players.

by juventus101 Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:54 pm

That was just an example. There are italians/germans better than spaniards, and vice versa. But in the case of the spaniards being better, the titles they have won does not prove that. Their own individual qualities do.

by Onyx Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:26 pm

Individually hows the players have ability as well. In order for a team to function properly, the players have to be individually talented as well.

by juventus101 Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:04 pm

Yes, i agree with that. Read my posts again. Im just saying that just because Spain won the World Cup and Euros, doesnt mean that Spains players are individually better than Germanys or Italys. Some of them are, but some of them also are not.

by VivaStPauli Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:45 pm

YMs posts make me want to shoot myself. How can this still be a discussion that is going on?
The best teams usually win the trophies, they can still have shit players. How is this news?

by Onyx Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:46 pm

I haven't said that every cup winning player is the best. There are some who are and then there's some who aren't.

by Swanhends Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:44 pm

How much is he worth, theoretically?

Asking for a friend

by Onyx Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:52 pm

Probably around 20-25m.

by VivaStPauli Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:17 pm

Depends on who's buying. I'd say 15ish million, but the way recent transfers have gone, he could go for 25m as well.

Transfermarkt.de values him at 20m, which is probably pretty accurate.

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