Beginning of the end?

by Art Morte Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:16 pm

At Manchester United.

Left out of the XI for their biggest game of the season so far.

I mean, I'll take my hat off for Ferguson for having the balls to start Ryan Giggs against a very athletic Madrid side and also starting the hot-and-cold-blowing Nani, but a couple of years ago you wouldn't have dreamt of going without Rooney into a match of this magnitude.

What does this tell you about Wayne Rooney's current role at United and his future at the club?

by guest7 Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:17 pm

Transfer to PSG incoming?

by Raptorgunner Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:18 pm

Rooney to Man City. :whistle:

by Casciavit Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:18 pm

Perhaps its just a tactical reason scratch

by StrugaRock Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:20 pm

SAF is preparing for a 120 minute game maybe.

by Art Morte Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:24 pm

Casciavit wrote:Perhaps its just a tactical reason

But starting Nani before Rooney for tactical reasons? I don't see it.

by Lex Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:27 pm

Yeah I don't see how starting a seriously out of form Nani over Wayne Woonay against a juggernaut like Madrid is a tactical masterstroke

by Art Morte Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:29 pm

Should probably place a bet on Nani scoring now.

by RealGunner Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:43 pm

Real Madrid

Benzema-Rooney swap

by RedOranje Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:43 pm

He'll come off the bench in the second half and probably bag or create the winner for United. Fergie's been rotating his top strikers all season.

by B-Mac Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:44 pm

lol you people :facepalm:

why would rooney play the wing?

welbeck's pace was the reason rooney didn't start

do you have nothing better to worry about then Rooney?

by The Franchise Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:53 pm

Art Morte wrote:
Casciavit wrote:Perhaps its just a tactical reason

But starting Nani before Rooney for tactical reasons? I don't see it.

Rooney cannot advance the ball with the dribble like Nani down the wings, doesnt have that type of dribbling ability.

A tactical decision and a good one.

by Onyx Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:56 pm

Rooney could have easily started ahead of Giggs.

by Ganso Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:58 pm

Welbeck over Rooney though? scratch

by McAgger Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:58 pm

Rooney looked seriously pissed. I feel for him. Their best player easily. And only got 20 minutes in the most important match of the season.

by The Franchise Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:00 pm

Giggs was doing a good defensive job, he also advanced the ball and made some good passes...like a great cross for RVP.

Rooney in that exact role last time did the defensive job, but struggled with the ball like we all said a couple weeks ago.

Welbeck was Utd best players for me, a constantly outlet, made great runs and was a constant problem.

I agree with Sir Alex, though before the game I was worried, I was wrong.

by guest7 Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:03 pm

Sir Alex was brilliant today. Welbeck was a constant danger and suffocated any space Xabi had today.

Brilliant tacitcs from Sir Alex and would have won him the game if not for Nani's red.

by Ganso Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:04 pm

I agree that Welbeck was United's best player, did everything right today.But I dont think that he should have started over Rooney.We all know Rooney is one of the best big game players out there.and quite honestly, I feel like RVP drops his game massively when he plays with either Chicharito or Welbeck.

by Grooverider Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:04 pm

Rooney

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:04 pm

Se7en wrote:Sir Alex was brilliant today. Welbeck was a constant danger and suffocated any space Xabi had today.

Brilliant tacitcs from Sir Alex and would have won him the game if not for Nani's red.

This, although Welbeck had a couple of chances which would have made the Red irrelevant if he took them.

But he got everything spot on, there is just some things a manager cannot effect.

Also it was just a tactical decision, Roonay will be at Yanited for the rest of his career.

by The Franchise Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:05 pm

Se7en wrote:Sir Alex was brilliant today. Welbeck was a constant danger and suffocated any space Xabi had today.

Brilliant tacitcs from Sir Alex and would have won him the game if not for Nani's red.

Another good point. Last time vs us, he put Rooney in the same role Welbeck had today vs Busquets...and he left Busquets open all game long.

by Onyx Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:07 pm

It's not really about roles imo. You can't just not play one of your best players. There has to be some way to accommodate him.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:08 pm

For all Roonay's so called work rate i don't think he understands how to close down spaces that well at all.

Pirlo had a cigar out all game against England.

by McAgger Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:09 pm

To be fair to Fergie, he got it spot on at the beginning. We couldn't do shite in this game. Even if it meant benching your best player.

by Twoism Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:10 pm

I think SAF did well with his selection and tactic. Welbeck was a joy to watch, Giggs did well defensively and got some nice pass up front, Nani got a key cross which lead to a goal and was overall good. All in all, MU didn't lose because of not playing Rooney; they left RM no chance when they had full team on the field.

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