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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:46 pm

19:41 - Juventus are on the field for the pre-race inspection. Fans load the Bianconeri. Choir for Pogba.

19:35 - This is also the coach of the Taurus.

19:31 - The Bull will come in a few minutes. Meanwhile, the team grenade was preceded by the president Urbano Cairo, who made his entrance at the Juventus Stadium at this time.

19:27 - Chiellini has fallen off the bus with the bag. But should not play.

19:25 - Juventus arrived at the Stadium

19:07 - Fans of Turin begin to enter in small groups in the Stadium. At the end due to arrive in 1500.

18:53 - Juventus will play with the traditional black and white coat. Mesh completely black instead of Gigi Buffon.

18:51 - Very few fans grenade inside and outside the stadium.

18:45 - Around the Juventus Stadium itself was exploded a few bombs paper. But the police reassured: all quiet. No contact between the fans. A helicopter is monitoring the situation from above.

18:35 - According to the latest rumors leaked by the withdrawal Juventus, Antonio Conte should field a back four, with Asamoah left back. Thus, according to Sky Sports Juventus drop in field with Buffon in goal, defense lined up from right to left with Lichtsteiner, Bonucci, Barzagli and Asamoah; Pogba in midfield, Pirlo and Marchisio, before Vucinic with the trident central striker, backed right Giaccherini from and to the left from Giovinco.

18:25 - If Earl were to change men form the light and the lump sum Chiellini, Ventura also may want to review their choices. The colleagues speculate Sky Sports, inside the Stadium.

18:21 - We have just opened the gates of the Juventus Stadium. Fans begin to take place.

18:20 - In Italy, however, do not expect any major surprises. Should be confirmed 4-2-4 of Florence Gillet; Darmian, Glik, Ogbonna, D'Ambrosio, Basha, Gazzi; Cerci, White, Meggiorini, Santana.

18:17 - At the moment Sky is assumed for Juventus the following formation: Buffon; Barzagli, Brown, Bonucci, Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio, Giaccherini; Vucinic, Giovinco

18:15 - The colleagues at the Stadium not exclude surprises in the formation of Juventus. The unexpected defection of Chiellini could convince Conte radical changes.

18:05 - Count should not be penalized Giorgio Chiellini, who, during the finishing of this morning heard again pain in the calf injury during the match against Chelsea. Wise choice, just four days away from the fundamental ground of Champions in Ukraine. Sky Sports at the time, the delivery jersey holder to Luca Marrone, but Lucio is still in the running to replace defender Tuscany.

17:10 - There may be a last minute defection at Juventus. According to reports gathered by Sky Sports, Giorgio Chiellini would have felt pain again in his right calf, hit hard in the match against Chelsea. The Juventus defender, then, is in serious doubt for the derby. If that does not make it - refer colleagues issuer satellite - could play as a central defender Brown, among Barzagli (center-right) and Bonucci (center-left). We can not exclude the hypothesis Lucio (center-right), with Bonucci (center) and Barzagli (center-left).

16:45 - Growing waiting for the derby this evening at 20:45 and finishing this morning confirmations arrive on the probable formation for the Bianconeri. According to Sky Sports, Antonio Conte should focus still on 3-5-2: Buffon in goal space. In defense, the line will consist of three Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini falling. In midfield, on the right will act Lichtsteiner, in the middle of Pogba, Pirlo and Marchisio, on the left Giaccherini is ahead of Asamoah, which should enjoy a rest ahead of the Champions League. In the attack the pair chosen by Conte would be formed by Vucinic and Giovinco. Lichtsteiner Giaccherini are the men that will embarrass the 4-2-4 grenade. Necessary because the Swiss scalerebbe back in defense Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini, Juventus would rise while the number 24 on the line of the attackers with Giovinco and Vucinic: At this point the form of Juve change in a 4-3-3. At the Juventus Stadium is all set in fact are already arriving fans of the teams.

11:30 - Juventus is supporting finishing at the Juventus Stadium. Antonio Conte should focus on the 3-5-2 that could turn into a 4-3-3: Buffon in goal space. In defense we will Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini. The number 3 Juventus recovered from the calf problem that had retained in the match against Milan. In midfield, on the wings, according to Sky Sports, and should act Lichtsteiner Giaccherini that would allow Earl to implement a form different than the usual 3-5-2. The number 24 Juventus could give a rest to Asamoah. In the middle should play Pogba, Pirlo and Marchisio. The French midfielder replace Vidal who has recovered from hamstring trouble, but want to preserve it in view of the Champions League, especially as against Shakhtar Marchisio will be disqualified. Giovinco in attack appears to be safe the place. At his side are in ballot Matri and Vucinic. With the number 9 Juventus ahead of the bomber Sant'Angelo Lodigiano. At the end of the finish you will have more information on the training that will address the Torino.

10:50 - Start of the long march to TuttoJuve.com awaited derby Mole. In Turin raining since morning. And the rain - tending to sleet - accompany the morning of the two teams that will support a training session, the latest evidence tactics in view of tonight's clash. The grenade are training in these minutes to the center Sisport, while the team of Conte will make short at the Juventus Stadium. The latest formations: the second Sky sports, it goes to the confirmation of the indications of the vigil. Conte should focus still on 3-5-2, with the usual defense in front of Buffon, there will be Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini, midfield, Lichtsteiner Giaccherini external central reference Pirlo, Marchisio with half-left and half-right Pogba . The Frenchman should be preferred to Vidal, who has recovered from minor injury, but will be preserved for the crucial Champions League match against Shakhtar, like Asamoah. In front, the couple Giovinco-Vucinic. The fact of insert Giaccherini on the left, however, could then make changing the schema from a 3-5-2 to a 4-3-3, with the lowering of Lichtsteiner, the displacement of Chiellini in the role of left back and the advancement Talla on the outside of the line of attackers.
Taurus, however, will be presented with the classic 4-2-4 with Gillet door, Darmian, Glik, Ogbonna and D'Ambrosio in defense, Basha and Gazzi to act as a barrier in the middle of the field and the four attackers: Cerci top right, Santana on the other side and the couple Meggiorini-Bianchi in attack, with the former likely to disturb called Bologna Pirlo during non-possession. Yesterday President grenade, Urbano Cairo, visited the team training camp, but has not yet had the opportunity to talk to the players. In all likelihood it will today.

POSSIBLE CONFIGURATIONS

Juventus (3-5-2): Buffon; Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini, Lichtsteiner, Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio, Giaccherini; Vucinic, Giovinco.
To avail.: Storari, Lucio, Brown, Isla, Asamoah, Padoin, De Ceglie, Pepe, Vidal, Bendtner, Matri, Quagliarella. Coach: Alessio
Suspended: Count (up to 8-12)
Out: Caceres

Turin (4-2-4): Gillet; Darmian, Glik, Ogbonna, D'Ambrosio, Basha, Gazzi; Cerci, White, Meggiorini, Santana.
To avail.: L. Gomis, Caesar Rodriguez, Agostini, Masiello, Stevanovic, Brighi, Birsa, Vives, Verdi, Sgrigna, Samson. Coach: Ventura
Suspended: none
Out: Bakic
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:58 pm

The Turin Derby returns after three years, but Giorgio Chiellini is out so Juventus change to a 4-3-3 system.

Tonight Torino visit the Juventus Stadium for the first time in a big Serie A clash that means so much more than just three points.

The Bianconeri need a boost after their defeat to Milan cut the lead at the top of the table to only two points.

Martin Caceres is injured and Chiellini was set to make his comeback, but the right calf problem flared up again this afternoon.

Therefore Coach Antonio Conte and his assistant manager Angelo Alessio opted to transform the entire shape of the side to a 4-3-3, using Paolo De Ceglie and Stephan Lichtsteiner as full-backs.

Arturo Vidal is rested so he can regain full fitness ahead of the Shakhtar Donetsk trip on Wednesday, giving Paul Pogba a starting spot.

Emanuele Giaccherini steps in for Kwadwo Asamoah as part of a trident attack with Sebastian Giovinco and Mirko Vucinic.

Torino have practically a full squad at their disposal for this match and have lost only one of their seven away games this season.

Juventus: Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Bonucci, De Ceglie; Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio; Giaccherini, Vucinic, Giovinco

Juventus bench: Storari, Lucio, Chiellini, Pepe, Padoin, Marrone, Isla, Asamoah, Vidal, Quagliarella, Bendtner, Matri

Torino: To follow.
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Post by dronte Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:13 pm

WTF did the ref call on Pogba? Seriously we got robbed off a goal..

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Post by Adrian0911 Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:23 pm

i agree...that was Ogbonna's fault....Pogba did nothing wrong. it should have been a goal.

OMG....that Torino idiot almost broked Giacc's leg..that replay gave me chills..totally deserved the red card

Pogba's shoots are superb
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Post by dronte Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:23 pm

Wow.. that was a brutal challenge and totally pointless. Deserved red.

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Post by Adrian0911 Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:28 pm

the penalty was not really deserved..but it would have made up for that Pogba goal.
omg Pirlo's ball...after Ramos one in the universe

we need a target man up front.

Vucinic is roaming to much there...cuz he's an SS...vucinic should have been rested. and i don't get why Licht started...we need him fresh for Shakhtar game
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Post by dronte Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:33 pm

LoL the penalty was a late challenge and a blatant handball at the same time. He could have got a yellow for that too, but he already had one Very Happy

We could lead by 3 goals already.. sigh

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:34 pm

The penalty was clear he touched the ball and was lucky not to receive second yellow.....


Luck is against us today
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Post by dronte Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:36 pm

We will win this. No doubt, we woke up after the ref called a foul on Pogba

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:37 pm

Sorry to say this we need Bendtner or Matri up there .. We can use muscle man and tbh I prefer Matri but I feel that we neeed Bendtner
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Post by dronte Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:42 pm

I'd like to see Bendtner or Matri as well, instead of Giach

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Post by Adrian0911 Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:47 pm

for handball was that penalty given? i thought it was because pogba fell...

stupid romanian commentator deceived me :facepalm: ...i was only looking for contact between pogba and that torino player

torino players are real schmucks...they are looking for a fight and are very aggressive in their tackles...i'm concerned they will injure our players
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Post by Adrian0911 Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:48 pm

dronte wrote:I'd like to see Bendtner or Matri as well, instead of Giach

you called it right..Bendtner in for Giacc
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Post by Adrian0911 Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:06 pm

Asamoah for PDC? why? in 4-3-3? 1-0 up?

it makes no sense...PDC was playing ok...Torino is not even attacking. is Alessio scared?

Gio..suspended for Palermo game.
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Post by dronte Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:17 pm

Sometimes I can't believe my eyes, what a beautiful attack we had and Bendtner still managed to miss that Very Happy whatever, we are good with this

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Post by Adrian0911 Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:28 pm

Marchisio!!! cheers dat chest assist from Vuci

Our midfielders should teach the strikers how to finish ffs
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Post by dronte Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:37 pm

The only thing we lacked today is a goal from Pogba. He really deserved it but had 0 luck.

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Post by Luca Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:41 pm

Giovinco and Marchisio were fantastic
Goal and an assist for Giovinco, brace for Marchisio
Pogba was dangerous
Vucinic grew into the game but still leaves a lot to be desired this season, assisted Giovinco's and Marchisio's second goal though, glimpses of magic

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:44 pm

Forza Juventus la Curva Ti ama tutta la settimana Io penso solo a Te, Forza Juventus
unico grande amore, una grande passione, che sta dentro di Me... ♥ Juventus ♥ Sebastian Giovinco ♥ La nuova storia , La nuova Bandiera Bianconera , Il capitano futurito CLAUDIO MARCHISIO ! ♥
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Post by Juveman17 Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:51 pm

#GayforMarchisio
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:04 am

DeviAngel wrote:Forza Juventus la Curva Ti ama tutta la settimana Io penso solo a Te, Forza Juventus
unico grande amore, una grande passione, che sta dentro di Me... ♥️ Juventus ♥️ Sebastian Giovinco ♥️ La nuova storia , La nuova Bandiera Bianconera , Il capitano futurito CLAUDIO MARCHISIO ! ♥️

Dejan your Italiano has improved greatly. It brings me (us) great honour to see you study our language and use it in its most passionate like a regular Italian ragazzo.

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Arquitecto wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:Forza Juventus la Curva Ti ama tutta la settimana Io penso solo a Te, Forza Juventus
unico grande amore, una grande passione, che sta dentro di Me... ♥️ Juventus ♥️ Sebastian Giovinco ♥️ La nuova storia , La nuova Bandiera Bianconera , Il capitano futurito CLAUDIO MARCHISIO ! ♥️

Dejan your Italiano has improved greatly. It brings me (us) great honour to see you study our language and use it in its most passionate like a regular Italian ragazzo.

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Post by juventus101 Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:03 pm

My analysis.

-Vucinic as a 9 doesnt work, at least not in a 4-3-3. Hes not a small guy, but he gets outmuscled by big CBs, and although he does hold the ball up well, it takes away his best aspect, his dribbling, when he gets crowded out by two CBs and a DM. As soon as he moved to the LW, we saw he was MUCH more dangerous. Thisis where he must play.

-Giovincos better on the RW. On the LW he would cut in and get outmuscled quickly by the RB or CB or both. On the right he can cross or run in towards goal at more of an.angle and shoot.

-Bendtner got into some good positions, but his finishing is pretty bad, even if he wouldve scored 9/10 times with that flick. Hes really not good enough though, and should be sent back to Arsenal.

-We cant judge Matri based on his performance, as he was played on the RW.

-We desperately need a big, strong, clinical CF. Llorente and Drogba both fit that descriptions perfectly, so hopefully we get one or both of them.

-Asamoah played well as a LB, even if did leave some space at the back. This could be easily taught though and he could be converted into an excellent LB in my opinion. It should definitely be given some thought.

-Pogba was excellent, and really deserved a goal. He showed that hes a dirext swap for Vidal or Marchisio, and im not so worried anymore about Marchisio beimg suspended for Shakhtar. Even if Pogbas not on their level yet, hes still an excellent backup.

-Nice to see Marchisio get a brace. It shows that when hes allowed to push forward, hes always a threat. The problem lately is that Vidal always pushes forward, so Marchisio has to hold the midfield (unless the opposition parks the bus like yesterday), hence why Vidal has 10 goals already. Last season, it seemed like the first half of the season Marchisio played the AM role while Vidal was the DM, hence why Marchisio was scoring so much, and then in the second half of the season they switched. I personally think were better off with Marchisio as the AM and Vidal as the DM, but it works either way.

-De Ceglie and Giaccherini are great players who are very underrated. Excellent backups. De Ceglie in particular had a great game, and i really didnt understand his substitution.

-4-3-3 is the way to go. The problem is which CB pairing to go with. Barzagli and Chiellini arei obviously our best defenders, but Bonucci has been pretty much on Barzaglis level this season, and is the best at distributing the ball out of the back. So this is a tough one.

-Overall, it was a good performance, and a well deserved win. It was a red card no doubt, and it was a penalty no doubt. Pirlo doesnt look tired, he looks lazy. He needs to fix this. The first 10 minutes we looked a little shaky, but i think it was down to us using a different formation for the first time in a year, and a little bit of suprise at the way Torino came into the game so attack-minded which is unusual against us. But once we found our feet, even before the red card, we looked the better side, though the red card just put the icing.on the cake. This game very easily couldve ended 5 or 6-0 if not fot some.great keeping from Gillet.

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