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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:43 am

Lahm--Boateng--Dante--Alaba

Rafinha--Martinez--Badstuber--Contento.




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I think it's about time we break the myth that Bayern defense is weak, I know this originated from Van Gaal abyss era, who simply did not train for defence. He promoted a youth DM with the pace of a snail into leftback and then moved him to CB and kept on playing Midfielder's such as Tymo/Gustavo and ancient millipede pace error prone DVB as CB. I could understand critic point of view then, but that misery is now over, should we now dwell in the past, people still tend to measure our defensive ability based on the utter mess that was created by Van Gaal even though we conceded the fewest goals in all of Europe last season only behind Juventus. (if I can remember)

If you still want to under-rate it's fine with us, but go ahead and name any team in the world that can boast of this defensive line-ups for both first and 2nd team.






Please don't mention Van Buyten, he's our 5th choice CB behind Boateng(1st choice, only player to have played every minute for Bayern this season) Dante(2nd), Badstuber(3rd) and Martinez comes as 4th who played as CB in the cup match, DVB is yet to see the pitch this season.


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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:49 am

Multiple exclamation marks are a clear sign of a diseased mind.

That being said, Real has two excellent back 4s, with having 4 decent FBs as well as CBs.

Arbeola, Marcelo, Ramos, that Portuguese guy that got owned by Bayern Coentrao,
then those CBs, I'm sure they have names, honestly, who cares, they got Ronaldo and Özil up front, that's pretty epic, also Barca has, like, defenders and stuff.

What are we talking about? Ah, right.

Ibrahimovic is average. Wait, wait, wait, was this even what we were talking about?

I forget.

Can I take a mulligan on this?
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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:53 am

VivaStPauli wrote:Multiple exclamation marks are a clear sign of a diseased mind.

That being said, Real has two excellent back 4s, with having 4 decent FBs as well as CBs.

Arbeola, Marcelo, Ramos, that Portuguese guy that got owned by Bayern Coentrao,
then those CBs, I'm sure they have names, honestly, who cares, they got Ronaldo and Özil up front, that's pretty epic, also Barca has, like, defenders and stuff.

What are we talking about? Ah, right.

Ibrahimovic is average. Wait, wait, wait, was this even what we were talking about?

I forget.

Can I take a mulligan on this?


I get the point, you thought you could but along the way you realized you couldn't.


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Post by Kaladin Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:00 am

Chelsea will have a fine defence once terry is back. Cole is an excellent fullback, Cahill is on par with Dante, and Azpi can fill in fine on the right. Luiz, Bosingwa, Iva and Bertrand make excellent rotations, especially Iva.
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Post by Kick Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:01 am

Bosingwa is no longer with us mate.

He is at QpHahaha.
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Post by Vibe Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:06 am

Arbeloa - Ramos - Pepe - Marcelo

Albiol - Varane - Carvalho - Coentrao


Alves - Pique - Puyol - Alba

Montoya - Masch - Busi - Adriano


Licht - Barzagli - Chiellini - Asa

Isla - Caceres - Bonucci - De Ceglie


Ivan - Cahill - Terry - Cole

Azpi - Luiz - Mikel - Bertrand


Zanetti - Ranocchia - Samuel - Pereira

Nagatomo - Silvestre - Juan Jesus - Chivu


Rafael - Ferdy - Vidic - Evra

Jones - Smalling - Evans - Buttner


Maicon - Kompany - Lescott - Clichy

Zabaleta - Toure - Nastasic - Kolarov




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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:07 am

El Shaarawy wrote:Chelsea will have a fine defence once terry is back. Cole is an excellent fullback, Cahill is on par with Dante, and Azpi can fill in fine on the right. Luiz, Bosingwa, Iva and Bertrand make excellent rotations, especially Iva.


Nice call.

But I agree maybe only Juventus, Chelsea and Madrid have such quality depth in defence but still they don't come close to Bayern considering another important advantage we have.



Versatile players.



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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:13 am

Vibe wrote:Arbeloa - Ramos - Pepe - Marcelo

Albiol - Varane - Carvalho - Coentrao


Alves - Pique - Puyol - Alba

Montoya - Masch - Busi - Adriano


Licht - Barzagli - Chiellini - Asa

Isla - Caceres - Bonucci - De Ceglie


Ivan - Cahill - Terry - Cole

Azpi - Luiz - Mikel - Bertrand


Zanetti - Ranocchia - Samuel - Pereira

Nagatomo - Silvestre - Juan Jesus - Chivu


Rafael - Ferdy - Vidic - Evra

Jones - Smalling - Evans - Buttner


Maicon - Kompany - Lescott - Clichy

Zabaleta - Toure - Nastasic - Kolarov






Aside from Chelsea, Madrid and Juventus, I didn't say name team with 2 defensive line, I clearly said that can MATCH.




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Post by Vibe Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:19 am

The Messiah wrote:
Vibe wrote:Arbeloa - Ramos - Pepe - Marcelo

Albiol - Varane - Carvalho - Coentrao


Alves - Pique - Puyol - Alba

Montoya - Masch - Busi - Adriano


Licht - Barzagli - Chiellini - Asa

Isla - Caceres - Bonucci - De Ceglie


Ivan - Cahill - Terry - Cole

Azpi - Luiz - Mikel - Bertrand


Zanetti - Ranocchia - Samuel - Pereira

Nagatomo - Silvestre - Juan Jesus - Chivu


Rafael - Ferdy - Vidic - Evra

Jones - Smalling - Evans - Buttner


Maicon - Kompany - Lescott - Clichy

Zabaleta - Toure - Nastasic - Kolarov






Aside from Chelsea, Madrid and Juventus, I didn't say name team with 2 defensive line, I clearly that can MATCH.



Wut?Assuming that you said 2 lineups that can match each other quality wise,you do realize that Bayerns match because they're both shite?Bar Lahm...And they don't even match.
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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:32 am

Vibe wrote:
The Messiah wrote:
Vibe wrote:Arbeloa - Ramos - Pepe - Marcelo

Albiol - Varane - Carvalho - Coentrao


Alves - Pique - Puyol - Alba

Montoya - Masch - Busi - Adriano


Licht - Barzagli - Chiellini - Asa

Isla - Caceres - Bonucci - De Ceglie


Ivan - Cahill - Terry - Cole

Azpi - Luiz - Mikel - Bertrand


Zanetti - Ranocchia - Samuel - Pereira

Nagatomo - Silvestre - Juan Jesus - Chivu


Rafael - Ferdy - Vidic - Evra

Jones - Smalling - Evans - Buttner


Maicon - Kompany - Lescott - Clichy

Zabaleta - Toure - Nastasic - Kolarov






Aside from Chelsea, Madrid and Juventus, I didn't say name team with 2 defensive line, I clearly that can MATCH.



Wut?Assuming that you said 2 lineups that can match each other quality wise,you do realize that Bayerns match because they're both shite?Bar Lahm...And they don't even match.


Clearly


Lahm-Boateng-Dante-Alaba

Are the best defensive line-up in the world atm, no wonder they have conceded only 4 goals so far in all league matches this season.


Rafinha-Martinez-Badstuber-Contento

Are also better than most first team defensive line-up and better than any back-up defensive line-up in the world, You simply have to look up their financial value, and how much it cost. it's nothing less than 70million Euro for a back-up defensive line-up, can any team top that...?

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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:49 am

72.5 million worth back-up defensive line-up, can any team top that...? I didnt make this up, transfermarkt came up with it..


Rafinha : 6.5m

Martinez: 40m

Badstuber: 22m


Contento: 2m (Inaccurate, should be at least 7m)

Van Buyten: 2M
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Post by juventus101 Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:33 am

Lichsteiner-Barzagli-Chiellini-Asamoah

Isla-Lucio-Bonucci-Caceres

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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:00 am

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Post by Valkyrja Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:37 am

The Messiah wrote:72.5 million worth back-up defensive line-up, can any team top that...? I didnt make this up, transfermarkt came up with it..


Rafinha : 6.5m

Martinez: 40m

Badstuber: 22m


Contento: 2m (Inaccurate, should be at least 7m)

Van Buyten: 2M

Ramos 40
Pepe 30
Marcelo 30
Arbeloa 12

112m only from the starters...

If I add Albiol(9), Coentrao(22) and Varane (10) = 153m in total, without Carvalho whom is valued at 1.5m.

Couting only the CBs - > 90.5m
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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:06 pm

People are actually responding to Indriozet serioulsy :facepalm:

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Post by BarcaKizz Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:12 pm

---> M-R-B-I-B-T-Y
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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:33 pm

Kizu wrote:
The Messiah wrote:72.5 million worth back-up defensive line-up, can any team top that...? I didnt make this up, transfermarkt came up with it..


Rafinha : 6.5m

Martinez: 40m

Badstuber: 22m


Contento: 2m (Inaccurate, should be at least 7m)

Van Buyten: 2M

Ramos 40
Pepe 30
Marcelo 30
Arbeloa 12

112m only from the starters...

If I add Albiol(9), Coentrao(22) and Varane (10) = 153m in total, without Carvalho whom is valued at 1.5m.

Couting only the CBs - > 90.5m


Madrid players blow over the top by transfermakt,if Ramos is worth that much, Dante is worth 50m and Boateng 55m
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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:37 pm

Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:People are actually responding to Indriozet serioulsy :facepalm:


Give it up dude, you are trying too much to get attention on this forum by replying to all my post Mr BestInTheWorld ( you just have to start a multi account with Kingofeverythingclassy, after you were permanently banned with that user name)


BTW, people always response to my post, it's not by chance that I am the first person to create a thread on this forum that got over 1,500 post. I also invented the word playmaker-goalkeeper, can you top that...? NO!


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Post by Onyx Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:46 pm

---Arbeloa---Pepe---Ramos---Marcelo

---Essien/Albiol---Varane---Carvalho---Coentrao

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Alves---Pique---Puyol---Alba

Montoya---Mascherano---Busquets---Adriano


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Sagna---Koscielny---Vermaelen---Gibbs

Jenkinson---Mertesacker---Djourou---Santos


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Lichtsteiner---Barzagli---Chiellini---Asamoah

Caceres---Lucio---Bonucci---De Ceglie


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Maicon---Kompany---Lescott---Clichy

Richards/Zabaleta---Toure/Richards---Nastasic/Richards---Zabaleta/Kolarov


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Post by Muzza Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:02 pm

bosingwa luiz cahill ashley

bertrand mikel lampard kalou

champions still with missing their captain leader legend

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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:56 pm

Footballing knowledge on this forum is really low, I need to start educating people more.


First of all, there is difference between team that have 2 defensive line-up and teams that have 2 quality defensive line-up, only Bayern currently have 2 quality defensive line-up, next to them Juventus, Chelsea and Madrid.


The rest are not worth mentioning.
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Post by ioilersrock448 Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:57 pm

Chelsea and Juventus' defense is much better. I also think that Dortmund's, Man United's and Real Madrid's defense is on par with Bayern.

Lahm is a boss. Dante is unproven really on the internaitonal scale in a big time game. Boateng still scares me and Badstuber needs to be pared with a pacey partner. I have never seen Martinez play as CB so I can't rate him there. alaba is still just learning the position and as a result he will make a few mistakes. Rafinha is equal to Jansen and Contento is still developing.

It is too much of a stretch to say Bayern has the best defense in the world. In a little while, maybe, but for now, no.
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