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Post by fatman123 Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:11 am

RVP has left Arsenal for a main rival and not too long ago Torres did the same thing, but whose crime was more severe?
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Post by poolsupporter Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:23 am

Meh, no crimes committed.
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:23 am

Torres did no wrong :coffee:
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Post by EarlyPrototype Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:33 am

RVP by far.

Torres made Liverpool 50 million pounds when he was past his best. Not only that, but he gave Liverpool more than 1 good season and he didn't publicly state he no longer wants Liverpool.
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Post by The Sanchez Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:34 am

I don't even know if Torres actually said something about a transfer. It just happened that he was neither fine nor unhappy about...
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Post by S Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:46 am

Torres leaving Liverpool was hardly a betrayal..And nor did he move to a direct rival if you know what i mean.
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Post by Firenze Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:09 pm

Cashley to Chelsea.

Liverpool are rivals to nobody vying for CL spots.
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Post by Gil Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:48 pm

Liverpool were a midtable club when Torres left.
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Post by Art Morte Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:13 pm

Betrayal is too strong a word, both just wanted to leave.

But RVP was way more unappreciative towards Arsenal. Torres handed in a transfer request after we had received a £50m offer for him, Van Persie just went "that's it, I'm out" and left Arsenal to worry about how to organize his departure.
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Post by Onyx Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:26 pm

Even if they're rivals or not, Chelsea and Man Utd have been competing for the title more than Arsenal and Liverpool. I mean it's not like someone moved from Chelsea-Man Utd or Man City to Man Utd.

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Post by Lex Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:42 pm

mtfootball wrote:Even if they're rivals or not, Chelsea and Man Utd have been competing for the title more than Arsenal and Liverpool. I mean it's not like someone moved from Chelsea-Man Utd or Man City to Man Utd.
Learn your history, boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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Post by Onyx Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:45 pm

Lex wrote:
mtfootball wrote:Even if they're rivals or not, Chelsea and Man Utd have been competing for the title more than Arsenal and Liverpool. I mean it's not like someone moved from Chelsea-Man Utd or Man City to Man Utd.
Learn your history, boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

At least in the past 5-6 years or so... Smile

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Post by the xcx Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:47 pm

Comparing these two to Figo is a disgrace. They owed nothing to club and wanted better career.
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:50 pm

mtfootball wrote:
Lex wrote:
mtfootball wrote:Even if they're rivals or not, Chelsea and Man Utd have been competing for the title more than Arsenal and Liverpool. I mean it's not like someone moved from Chelsea-Man Utd or Man City to Man Utd.
Learn your history, boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

At least in the past 5-6 years or so... Smile

If you look at past 5 year we have always been there just one freak injure and small injured killed our chances.


RVP betrayal is the worst cus he talked about ambitions and we go sign 3 quality players and he leaves.


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Post by Onyx Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:53 pm

True. However maybe he just didn't wanna take a risk.

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Post by stevieg8 Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:08 pm

I would say Torres, solely because it was on deadline day, resulting in a certain 35m purchase. At least Van Persie did it in such a way they could be certain to find replacements
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Post by Art Morte Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:13 pm

stevieg8 wrote:I would say Torres, solely because it was on deadline day, resulting in a certain 35m purchase. At least Van Persie did it in such a way they could be certain to find replacements

But it was probably a "now or never" case getting £50m for him. Neither us or Torres could have been sure that Chelsea still wanted him for that kind of money in the summer. It was stupid of us to splash £35m on an immediate replacement, though.
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Post by Dutti Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:17 pm

"betrayal"..... hmm

That's a strong word for a player transfer which is normal in football.

I don't remember United fans used the same word for Ronaldo.... hmm
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Post by Raptorgunner Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:46 pm

Dutti wrote:"betrayal"..... hmm

That's a strong word for a player transfer which is normal in football.

I don't remember United fans used the same word for Ronaldo.... hmm

DEL PIERO: Relegated with Juventus, fought until they won a title. VAN PER$HIT: One good season with Arsenal, joins bitter rivals. hmm

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Post by Dutti Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:00 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
Dutti wrote:"betrayal"..... hmm

That's a strong word for a player transfer which is normal in football.

I don't remember United fans used the same word for Ronaldo.... hmm

DEL PIERO: Relegated with Juventus, fought until they won a title. VAN PER$HIT: One good season with Arsenal, joins bitter rivals. hmm


By using the same analogy, some players who transferred to another club betrayed their former clubs. Acceptable analogy? maybe. Flawed? most likely.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:54 pm

Dutti wrote:"betrayal"..... hmm

That's a strong word for a player transfer which is normal in football.

I don't remember United fans used the same word for Ronaldo.... hmm

i agree, but not all fans have thick skin. arsenal fans are just too sensitive imo

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Post by FalcaoPunch Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:01 pm

It's almost as bad as when Vegeta allowed himself to be controlled by babidi



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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:11 pm

ColoJunior wrote:It's almost as bad as when Vegeta allowed himself to be controlled by babidi



Majin Persie

More like bulma persie .... Going hOme with who ever is powerful at the time.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:11 pm

vanDEEZ wrote:
Dutti wrote:"betrayal"..... hmm

That's a strong word for a player transfer which is normal in football.

I don't remember United fans used the same word for Ronaldo.... hmm

i agree, but not all fans have thick skin. arsenal fans are just too sensitive imo

Laughing

Comparing Ronaldo to Real Madrid with van Persie to Man Utd.
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Post by nichabr Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:13 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
Dutti wrote:"betrayal"..... hmm

That's a strong word for a player transfer which is normal in football.

I don't remember United fans used the same word for Ronaldo.... hmm

DEL PIERO: Relegated with Juventus, fought until they won a title. VAN PER$HIT: One good season with Arsenal, joins bitter rivals. hmm


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not all players are the same and van persie isnt half the player you compare him to
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