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Clubs that should be worried about FFP
Pretty interesting article, although for sure its not canon and set in stone but still makes you aware of stuff you might not have known about like for me instance with Liverpool I didn't know that they would be in trouble, but then again it sure does make sense.
Full story here:
http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/6/14/3085089/so-what-clubs-do-need-to-worry-about-ffp
Paris St. Germain: PSG would seem the obvious one here. With rich ownership, they have no issues with spending. They'd seem to offer regular Champions League football and a great city in which to live, so they have no issues attracting great players. Ligue 1 doesn't generate huge revenues outside of France though, and as the new kids on the block they don't have the advertising dollars of a Chelsea. They also have were little in the way of valuable assets to sell. If they keep splashing, they won't have a prayer of compliance.
Manchester City: The Premier League champions will benefit from the new TV money and sponsorship deals, but their spending spree of the last several years will still be an impossible hurdle. Where Chelsea signed the majority of their stars prior to the FFP accounting, Man City did not have that luxury. Major sales and little spending will be necessary if they are to comply, although they've put in place a solid enough framework that they should be in ok shape down the road.
Liverpool: Like City, Liverpool will benefit from the increased TV revenue. Unlike City, Liverpool haven't had Champions League income in a while. Liverpool spent a lot last summer, doing so again without CL money will likely doom them as far as FFP is concerned.
Malaga: Malaga have very rich ownership, but they have quite pathetic revenues. The TV model that Barca and Real have forced on the rest of La Liga leaves Malaga in worse shape revenue wise than many Championship clubs. They have Champions League revenue this year, but even with that I'd be surprised to see them generate as much total revenue as any of the newly promoted Premier League sides do. They have money to spend due to rich owners, but if they do they will not comply.
Anzhi Makhachkala: Another newly rich club, the Russian Premier League just doesn't generate enough revenue to let them comply if they spend. Factor in the wages they need to pay to get anyone to even consider playing there and you paint a pretty bleak picture as far as compliance goes.
Inter Milan: Inter was one of the least profitable clubs in Europe over the last 5 years. They the gave up massive revenue in the new Italian TV deal. Then they missed the Champions League. They've made some great sales over the last several years in Ibra and Eto, they'll need to make quite a few more of those types of deals to have a shot.
AC Milan: The two Milan clubs have traditionally showed big losses. They also just gave up massive TV revenue to the rest of Serie A in hopes of avoiding watching the league mimic the model that destroyed the Scottish Premier League and is destroying La Liga. Both were in bad shape as far as FFP goes despite having many 'grandfathered" contracts, and both now have to start replacing those players. AC Milan is in better shape than Inter due to qualifying for the CL, but they have an awful lot of old players moving on that they have to replace. I'd expect to see some big names sold if they hope to comply.
Juventus: This might be the least likely club in all of Europe to comply. They also took a huge hit in TV revenue, and they haven't had the Champions League to help recently either. They've still spent big though, and their wage bill is very high. Even if they signed a bunch of free players and still won the Champions League, Juve will likely not be compliant. Of all the clubs in Italy though, they are heading in the right direction the fastest due to their new stadium and sponsorship deals.
Roma: Roma are the 4th Italian team to take a hit in TV revenue. They are in pretty big trouble if they don't start making the CL regularly, and with Serie A down to 3 spots that seems unlikely at best.
Full story here:
http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/6/14/3085089/so-what-clubs-do-need-to-worry-about-ffp
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No Chelsea.... Hazard for 32M+ and Hulk for 38M
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nasir6371 wrote:No Chelsea.... Hazard for 32M+ and Hulk for 38M
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http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/6/14/3084550/chelsea-financial-fair-play
Also Hulk deal is far from complete and might not be it's all died down a little.
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i am gonna wait until Swiss Ramble does his next FFP article before i believe who is in trouble or not
Here is a recent look at Milan's fiances
http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2012/05/milan-warning-signs.html?utm_source=BP_recent
Here is a recent look at Milan's fiances
http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2012/05/milan-warning-signs.html?utm_source=BP_recent
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BS article.
we cut the wage bill by 30M a year last summer, and saved bucket load of money (and spent 40M net since take over anyways, which is club's earning over a year)
I am so pissed that John Henry is taking FFP so seriously
we cut the wage bill by 30M a year last summer, and saved bucket load of money (and spent 40M net since take over anyways, which is club's earning over a year)
I am so pissed that John Henry is taking FFP so seriously
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Schweini wrote:I am so pissed that John Henry is taking FFP so seriously
Irresponsibility ftw?
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Juventus: This might be the least likely club in all of Europe to comply. They also took a huge hit in TV revenue, and they haven't had the Champions League to help recently either. They've still spent big though, and their wage bill is very high. Even if they signed a bunch of free players and still won the Champions League, Juve will likely not be compliant. Of all the clubs in Italy though, they are heading in the right direction the fastest due to their new stadium and sponsorship deals.
Seems like an uninformed article to me..I'd trust swiss ramble more.
This article is giving a whole new meaning to FFP seriously.Dont understand this at all.
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chinomaster182 wrote:Schweini wrote:I am so pissed that John Henry is taking FFP so seriously
Irresponsibility ftw?
no cause FIFA are never going to kick anyone out of the CL, imagine how much revenue theyd loose if there was a CL with no RM, Barca, Chelsea, and Yanited
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I doubt this guy who wrote the article is perfectly aware of financial status of each club..This dude is a Chelsea Fan himself.
I'd rather wait for the next Swiss Ramble article.
I'd rather wait for the next Swiss Ramble article.
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Abramovich wrote:Pretty interesting article, although for sure its not canon and set in stone but still makes you aware of stuff you might not have known about like for me instance with Liverpool I didn't know that they would be in trouble, but then again it sure does make sense.
Paris St. Germain: PSG would seem the obvious one here. With rich ownership, they have no issues with spending. They'd seem to offer regular Champions League football and a great city in which to live, so they have no issues attracting great players. Ligue 1 doesn't generate huge revenues outside of France though, and as the new kids on the block they don't have the advertising dollars of a Chelsea. They also have were little in the way of valuable assets to sell. If they keep splashing, they won't have a prayer of compliance.
Manchester City: The Premier League champions will benefit from the new TV money and sponsorship deals, but their spending spree of the last several years will still be an impossible hurdle. Where Chelsea signed the majority of their stars prior to the FFP accounting, Man City did not have that luxury. Major sales and little spending will be necessary if they are to comply, although they've put in place a solid enough framework that they should be in ok shape down the road.
Liverpool: Like City, Liverpool will benefit from the increased TV revenue. Unlike City, Liverpool haven't had Champions League income in a while. Liverpool spent a lot last summer, doing so again without CL money will likely doom them as far as FFP is concerned.
Malaga: Malaga have very rich ownership, but they have quite pathetic revenues. The TV model that Barca and Real have forced on the rest of La Liga leaves Malaga in worse shape revenue wise than many Championship clubs. They have Champions League revenue this year, but even with that I'd be surprised to see them generate as much total revenue as any of the newly promoted Premier League sides do. They have money to spend due to rich owners, but if they do they will not comply.
Anzhi Makhachkala: Another newly rich club, the Russian Premier League just doesn't generate enough revenue to let them comply if they spend. Factor in the wages they need to pay to get anyone to even consider playing there and you paint a pretty bleak picture as far as compliance goes.
Inter Milan: Inter was one of the least profitable clubs in Europe over the last 5 years. They the gave up massive revenue in the new Italian TV deal. Then they missed the Champions League. They've made some great sales over the last several years in Ibra and Eto, they'll need to make quite a few more of those types of deals to have a shot.
AC Milan: The two Milan clubs have traditionally showed big losses. They also just gave up massive TV revenue to the rest of Serie A in hopes of avoiding watching the league mimic the model that destroyed the Scottish Premier League and is destroying La Liga. Both were in bad shape as far as FFP goes despite having many 'grandfathered" contracts, and both now have to start replacing those players. AC Milan is in better shape than Inter due to qualifying for the CL, but they have an awful lot of old players moving on that they have to replace. I'd expect to see some big names sold if they hope to comply.
Juventus: This might be the least likely club in all of Europe to comply. They also took a huge hit in TV revenue, and they haven't had the Champions League to help recently either. They've still spent big though, and their wage bill is very high. Even if they signed a bunch of free players and still won the Champions League, Juve will likely not be compliant. Of all the clubs in Italy though, they are heading in the right direction the fastest due to their new stadium and sponsorship deals.
Roma: Roma are the 4th Italian team to take a hit in TV revenue. They are in pretty big trouble if they don't start making the CL regularly, and with Serie A down to 3 spots that seems unlikely at best.
Full story here:
http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/6/14/3085089/so-what-clubs-do-need-to-worry-about-ffp
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Surag wrote:Juventus: This might be the least likely club in all of Europe to comply. They also took a huge hit in TV revenue, and they haven't had the Champions League to help recently either. They've still spent big though, and their wage bill is very high. Even if they signed a bunch of free players and still won the Champions League, Juve will likely not be compliant. Of all the clubs in Italy though, they are heading in the right direction the fastest due to their new stadium and sponsorship deals.
Seems like an uninformed article to me..I'd trust swiss ramble more.
This article is giving a whole new meaning to FFP seriously.Dont understand this at all.
The latest Swiss Ramble on Milan shows the wage league for Serie A this season, Juventus is in third place for highest wage bill.
no cause FIFA are never going to kick anyone out of the CL, imagine how much revenue theyd loose if there was a CL with no RM, Barca, Chelsea, and Yanited
RM, Barca and United are going to be more than fine for FFP (check swiss ramble), Chelsea can also do it.
Serie A clubs are the ones in trouble, it defenitly shows on the market.
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BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Abramovich wrote:Pretty interesting article, although for sure its not canon and set in stone but still makes you aware of stuff you might not have known about like for me instance with Liverpool I didn't know that they would be in trouble, but then again it sure does make sense.
Paris St. Germain: PSG would seem the obvious one here. With rich ownership, they have no issues with spending. They'd seem to offer regular Champions League football and a great city in which to live, so they have no issues attracting great players. Ligue 1 doesn't generate huge revenues outside of France though, and as the new kids on the block they don't have the advertising dollars of a Chelsea. They also have were little in the way of valuable assets to sell. If they keep splashing, they won't have a prayer of compliance.
Manchester City: The Premier League champions will benefit from the new TV money and sponsorship deals, but their spending spree of the last several years will still be an impossible hurdle. Where Chelsea signed the majority of their stars prior to the FFP accounting, Man City did not have that luxury. Major sales and little spending will be necessary if they are to comply, although they've put in place a solid enough framework that they should be in ok shape down the road.
Liverpool: Like City, Liverpool will benefit from the increased TV revenue. Unlike City, Liverpool haven't had Champions League income in a while. Liverpool spent a lot last summer, doing so again without CL money will likely doom them as far as FFP is concerned.
Malaga: Malaga have very rich ownership, but they have quite pathetic revenues. The TV model that Barca and Real have forced on the rest of La Liga leaves Malaga in worse shape revenue wise than many Championship clubs. They have Champions League revenue this year, but even with that I'd be surprised to see them generate as much total revenue as any of the newly promoted Premier League sides do. They have money to spend due to rich owners, but if they do they will not comply.
Anzhi Makhachkala: Another newly rich club, the Russian Premier League just doesn't generate enough revenue to let them comply if they spend. Factor in the wages they need to pay to get anyone to even consider playing there and you paint a pretty bleak picture as far as compliance goes.
Inter Milan: Inter was one of the least profitable clubs in Europe over the last 5 years. They the gave up massive revenue in the new Italian TV deal. Then they missed the Champions League. They've made some great sales over the last several years in Ibra and Eto, they'll need to make quite a few more of those types of deals to have a shot.
AC Milan: The two Milan clubs have traditionally showed big losses. They also just gave up massive TV revenue to the rest of Serie A in hopes of avoiding watching the league mimic the model that destroyed the Scottish Premier League and is destroying La Liga. Both were in bad shape as far as FFP goes despite having many 'grandfathered" contracts, and both now have to start replacing those players. AC Milan is in better shape than Inter due to qualifying for the CL, but they have an awful lot of old players moving on that they have to replace. I'd expect to see some big names sold if they hope to comply.
Juventus: This might be the least likely club in all of Europe to comply. They also took a huge hit in TV revenue, and they haven't had the Champions League to help recently either. They've still spent big though, and their wage bill is very high. Even if they signed a bunch of free players and still won the Champions League, Juve will likely not be compliant. Of all the clubs in Italy though, they are heading in the right direction the fastest due to their new stadium and sponsorship deals.
Roma: Roma are the 4th Italian team to take a hit in TV revenue. They are in pretty big trouble if they don't start making the CL regularly, and with Serie A down to 3 spots that seems unlikely at best.
Full story here:
http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/6/14/3085089/so-what-clubs-do-need-to-worry-about-ffp
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Then , after having less money than Greece to spend , going on to sell the best CB in the world or sell Eto after 1 minute the offer was made
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Liverpool probably won't break-even for the foreseeable few years, but neither will our losses be too big for the club to comply with the FFP rules.
PSG and Anzhi are two clubs who clearly should have no business playing in UEFA competitions if FFP happens in any scale at all. Not that Anzhi have qualified for CL, sure didn't this season.
With rest of the clubs, let's wait and see what stance UEFA shall eventually take.
PSG and Anzhi are two clubs who clearly should have no business playing in UEFA competitions if FFP happens in any scale at all. Not that Anzhi have qualified for CL, sure didn't this season.
With rest of the clubs, let's wait and see what stance UEFA shall eventually take.
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Surag wrote:I doubt this guy who wrote the article is perfectly aware of financial status of each club..This dude is a Chelsea Fan himself.
I'd rather wait for the next Swiss Ramble article.
Doesn't matter if he is a Chelsea fan or not and he is pretty well informed on football in general, its his job and he also wrote this.
Juventus will be in excellent shape going forward if their new stadium generates the expected revenues
After the first monitoring period though, they’ve already hit the acceptable loss for a three year period while losing about 23 million Euros in domestic TV. The Champions League will make that up, but it also shoots wages up by a good amount.
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I can't comment on other teams but Juventus usually make a profit each year. This season with no Europe and a new stadium was the exception. Juventus are in good shape financially. This article seems to have the wrong idea of the club.
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