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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 Tue May 22, 2012 11:22 pm

Seriously, how long will it be before we see another defender win the Ballon D'or?

With Messi and a host of other talented attackers hogging all the votes, it seems almost impossible for a defender to win this award.

Like Cannavaro, is winning the world cup one of the only ways as long as Messi and such are top scorers year after year?
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Post by Sushi Master Tue May 22, 2012 11:30 pm

Messi retiring.
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Tue May 22, 2012 11:43 pm

Score 70 goals
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Post by Lord Awesome Tue May 22, 2012 11:45 pm

Whenever there's another Defender like Beckenbauer.
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Post by FalcaoPunch Tue May 22, 2012 11:47 pm

If messi becomes a defender
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Post by McAgger Wed May 23, 2012 12:03 am

Well you need another Beckenbauer, Maldini, Baresi type defender to have any chance of getting Balon d'Or votes.
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Post by Sushi Master Wed May 23, 2012 12:15 am

True... defenders of today aren't of the highest quality. There really ain't any standout guys I'd vote for if given the chance.

Even the Cannavaro thing was totally world cup politics...
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Post by zizzle Wed May 23, 2012 12:15 am

Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Well you need another Beckenbauer, Maldini, Baresi type defender to have any chance of getting Balon d'Or votes.

apart from Beckenbauer, none of these you listed ever won it
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Post by zizzle Wed May 23, 2012 12:18 am

Sushi Master wrote:True... defenders of today aren't of the highest quality. There really ain't any standout guys I'd vote for if given the chance.

Even the Cannavaro thing was totally world cup politics...


Maldini and Zanetti, 2 of the finest defenders to ever grace a football field never came close ti winning it. Obviously the award is biased towards attacking players who score and create goals
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Post by McAgger Wed May 23, 2012 12:19 am

zizzle wrote:
Messiah "Aggerswagger" wrote:Well you need another Beckenbauer, Maldini, Baresi type defender to have any chance of getting Balon d'Or votes.

apart from Beckenbauer, none of these you listed ever won it

I know...what I was trying to say is that you need defenders to be at a level close to these guys to have any chance of getting votes against the Messi's and Ronaldo's. At the moment the quality of defenders isn't anywhere near those mentioned.
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Post by Sushi Master Wed May 23, 2012 12:23 am

zizzle wrote:
Sushi Master wrote:True... defenders of today aren't of the highest quality. There really ain't any standout guys I'd vote for if given the chance.

Even the Cannavaro thing was totally world cup politics...


Maldini and Zanetti, 2 of the finest defenders to ever grace a football field never came close ti winning it. Obviously the award is biased towards attacking players who score and create goals
Agree, that pretty much says it all.

Maldini went 3rd place in 2003, Roberto Carlos 2nd in 2002. Buffon and Kahn were 2nd and 3rd a few times.

That's it for the past decade.
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Post by McAgger Wed May 23, 2012 12:25 am

Buffon deserved it more than Cannavaro in 06 :coffee:
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed May 23, 2012 1:05 am

Cannavaro's award was a bloody farce!
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Post by Forza Wed May 23, 2012 1:23 am

I don't think the Ballon D'or competition has any integrity left. Bad choices in the past, the spectre of corruption looming over it and no transparency in the decision-making process. The whole thing stinks.
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Post by vizkosity Wed May 23, 2012 2:50 am

im sick of messi winning everything nowadays....
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Post by The Verminator Wed May 23, 2012 3:08 am

They gotta become strikers....
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Post by dostoevsky Wed May 23, 2012 3:33 am

They require a league triumph and probably a CL in a squad that doesn't have a dominant forward or midfielder but rather players who are talented but make balanced contributions or have been absent through injury for long enough to exclude them.

So in short it probably won't happen again for quite some time.
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Post by Zealous Wed May 23, 2012 3:34 am

Convert Cristiano into a CB hmm
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Post by dostoevsky Wed May 23, 2012 3:39 am

Zealous wrote:Convert Cristiano into a CB hmm

False Sweeper Playmaker 7 hmm
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Post by Forza Wed May 23, 2012 3:43 am

dostoevsky wrote:
Zealous wrote:Convert Cristiano into a CB hmm

False Sweeper Playmaker 7 hmm
Reviving Butterball Smithy's old position :bow:
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Post by vizkosity Wed May 23, 2012 3:54 am

Forza Rossoneri wrote:
dostoevsky wrote:
Zealous wrote:Convert Cristiano into a CB hmm

False Sweeper Playmaker 7 hmm
Reviving Butterball Smithy's old position :bow:
with his brilliant ability to dive, the opponent teams can be strikerless
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Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 4:02 am

He has to be Abate :coffee:

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Post by EarlyPrototype Wed May 23, 2012 4:38 am

A CB that scores a lot of goals and wins the league, champions league and world cup. Whilst captaining all the teams.
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Post by vizkosity Wed May 23, 2012 4:51 am

EarlyPrototype wrote:A CB that scores a lot of goals and wins the league, champions league and world cup. Whilst captaining all the teams.

how many per season is a lot? lol...or at least, a ratio.

It's depressing to know that strikers are usually are just nominated and win for the most parts.

Look at 2010 WC performances. Iniesta had scored the winning goal. Sneijder won the treble, as well as being exceptionally good in WC. How many performances must xavi repeats during 2008-2010?

Result: messi won 3 on a row.....
not that he's not important or doesn't have anything but...the current system is more broken than the old one.
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Post by Zealous Wed May 23, 2012 5:01 am

Honestly I think defenders need their own award that considers only defending when voting.

Sort of like a "defensive player of the year" or something like that.
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