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Post by Neutral Thu May 17, 2012 6:06 pm

Bayern Munich supremo Uli Hoeness has launched a new attack on Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich ahead of the Champions League final.

Hoeness branded Abramovich one of the ‘oil mafia’ who take money from the public at petrol pumps to fund their football clubs.

"I get angry every week when I go to buy petrol," fumed Hoeness in the Daily Mail. "The oil mafia takes money out of my pocket to invest it in footballers. For me this stinks to high heaven and I include Mr Abramovich in all this. We need to beat clubs like Chelsea on the field of play. Chelsea are a club with their backs to the wall as a result of their patchy league season. If they lose they won’t be in the competition next year.

"If Bayern win it, we will make around £20million. That is what the game is all about: sporting success based on sound economic sense. Mr Abramovich has put £900m into Chelsea. If he pulls the plug on them, you’ll be able to pick the club up for the price of a puzzle magazine from a newsstand.

"I think it’s important for everyone at Bayern to feel that the club belongs to them. They must not have any fear that we will sell out to a Russian or Arabian consortium.

"When the financial fair play rules come in it will be a golden era for Germany’s clubs."

i like this guy

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu May 17, 2012 6:14 pm

Hoeness is the GOAT president. Doesn't bow down to no one.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu May 17, 2012 6:15 pm

That's what I'm talking about. Hoeness :bow:

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Post by chinomaster182 Thu May 17, 2012 6:18 pm

You like financial stability and sane, long term planning?
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu May 17, 2012 6:49 pm

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Post by Blue Thu May 17, 2012 7:08 pm

If Chelsea and City rise was part of American sports, they would be adored. Here in America underdogs are beloved and people wants to see new emerging teams challenge the regular heavyweights.

Never could understand why Europeans hate the Chelsea's of the world. Must be something to do with their hate and for capitalism.
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Post by rwo power Thu May 17, 2012 7:14 pm

Blue wrote:If Chelsea and City rise was part of American sports, they would be adored. Here in America underdogs are beloved and people wants to see new emerging teams challenge the regular heavyweights.

Never could understand why Europeans hate the Chelsea's of the world. Must be something to do with their hate and for capitalism.
The point is more that a team that gets an outside injection of 1 000 million Euros because a billionär wants it as new toy and thus just buys expensive players left and right as if there is no new tomorrow can hardly be called an underdog.


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Post by the xcx Thu May 17, 2012 7:15 pm

Hoeness is just as annoying as Cruyff was a year ago. STFU
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Post by che Thu May 17, 2012 7:20 pm

Blue wrote:If Chelsea and City rise was part of American sports, they would be adored. Here in America underdogs are beloved and people wants to see new emerging teams challenge the regular heavyweights.

Never could understand why Europeans hate the Chelsea's of the world. Must be something to do with their hate and for capitalism.

that's because the underdog is a real underdog... literally all american sports are wage-capped, the underdogs had to work their way up... city and chelsea basically punched in a cheat for infinite money
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Post by Zuess99 Thu May 17, 2012 7:25 pm

what about madrid??? are they also a plastic club seeing that they spend like alot of money to win la liga?
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Post by Neutral Thu May 17, 2012 7:28 pm

Zuess99 wrote:what about madrid??? are they also a plastic club seeing that they spend like alot of money to win la liga?

um no... their money comes from their success. just like any other top club when they spend big.

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Post by che Thu May 17, 2012 7:32 pm

Zuess99 wrote:what about madrid??? are they also a plastic club seeing that they spend like alot of money to win la liga?

sure they bought the league, but they bought it with their own money

don't hate the rich, hate the unjustly rich
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Post by Adit Thu May 17, 2012 7:34 pm

Zuess99 wrote:what about madrid??? are they also a plastic club seeing that they spend like alot of money to win la liga?

may be because we earned the money lol.
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Post by animal.crackers Thu May 17, 2012 8:02 pm

che wrote:sure they bought the league, but they bought it with their own money

don't hate the rich, hate the unjustly rich
That's bullshit.

Ask the banks what they think of Madrid.
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Post by che Thu May 17, 2012 8:13 pm

probably something along the lines of "your 400 mil yearly revenue means you can afford any interest payment ever, here, have a massive loan"
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Post by Adit Thu May 17, 2012 8:15 pm

animal.crackers wrote:
che wrote:sure they bought the league, but they bought it with their own money

don't hate the rich, hate the unjustly rich
That's bullshit.

Ask the banks what they think of Madrid.
Because banks funds us for free right? lol

how are you comparing it to Mansoor funding Mancity lol
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu May 17, 2012 8:16 pm

che wrote:probably something along the lines of "your 400 mil yearly revenue means you can afford any interest payment ever, here, have a massive loan"

ROFL
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Post by Jack Daniels Thu May 17, 2012 8:20 pm

animal.crackers wrote:
che wrote:sure they bought the league, but they bought it with their own money

don't hate the rich, hate the unjustly rich
That's bullshit.

Ask the banks what they think of Madrid.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by Zealous Thu May 17, 2012 8:24 pm

Hoeness may have a point but whenever someone rants on about moral battles it never impresses me.

The games will be played on the field and all the players have put in fantastic preformances to reach the final. What happens on the board room is one thing but such comments are disrespectful to Chelsea's squad's efforts in the tournament.

Maybe Bayern the club has the moral high ground over Chelsea the club but Bayern the squad don't deserve to win anymore than the Chelsea squad do.

Here's hoping for a great final and football match. Moral battles are really childish and boring imo.
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Post by The Franchise Thu May 17, 2012 8:30 pm

Maybe just me, but im sick of these German oldies always talking crap..so damn critical of everyone.

I just erad quotes constantly from these guys, always waffling.
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Post by Blue Thu May 17, 2012 8:40 pm

rwo power wrote:
Blue wrote:If Chelsea and City rise was part of American sports, they would be adored. Here in America underdogs are beloved and people wants to see new emerging teams challenge the regular heavyweights.

Never could understand why Europeans hate the Chelsea's of the world. Must be something to do with their hate and for capitalism.
The point is more that a team that gets an outside injection of 1 000 million Euros because a billionär wants it as new toy and thus just buys expensive players left and right as if there is no new tomorrow can hardly be called an underdog.

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Blue wrote:If Chelsea and City rise was part of American sports, they would be adored. Here in America underdogs are beloved and people wants to see new emerging teams challenge the regular heavyweights.

Never could understand why Europeans hate the Chelsea's of the world. Must be something to do with their hate and for capitalism.

that's because the underdog is a real underdog... literally all american sports are wage-capped, the underdogs had to work their way up... city and chelsea basically punched in a cheat for infinite money

The structure is different from our sports to Europeans, teams can rise and challenge top teams because of the equality. salary cap being one of the reason, but also the draft system. So no big injection of money is necessary for most cities, but small markets cities still suffer. Salary cap doesn't prevent teams going over the cap anyway, major cities are always over the cap.

Outsiders like yourself think of Chelsea as a toy but that is false. Roman has invested considerable time, money, and emotion into Chelsea and given a lot to the fans. Success that one would only dream of, few would've dreamed of the days of challenging the likes of Barcelona, Madrid, Milan, etc. He also attends almost every game, and has been seen numerous time watching the academy and youth play. Chelsea also does a lot for the community and does plenty of Philanthropy work. I would say Roman cares more for his club then almost every owner.

Not very familiar with City or other emerging clubs, but i am sure they can speak a similar manner.

So back to the underdog story in Europe. So how does a club in Europe challenge the likes of United, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, etc without the heavy injection of money?

It is no coincidence that historical goods team are still dominating the football world. Sure you have teams like Everton and Liverpool who are no longer top clubs, and that what happens when they lose strong financial backing.

Madrid and United of the world has a competitive advantage in plunking youngsters also. The best young and global talents usually end up at those places. In America the draft system allows the weaker times to choose ahead of the top teams, when it comes to picking the best young talents.

Big injection of money is the only chance clubs have against the top European clubs.





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Post by Doc Thu May 17, 2012 8:54 pm

God lord, why is Hoeness making me cheer Chelsea to win? Why dear Lord, why?!

On a very serious note, the moral high ground is great and all but Chelsea reached the final fair and square and forgive me for not taking serious his comment about patchy league form considering this is Bayern's last shot at major silverware for the season.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu May 17, 2012 8:56 pm

I heard on the radio that the german press and the old bayern legends are putting an insane amount of pressure on this current Bayern side. Questioning whether Piggy is a true leader, someone said Neuer is good but not great yet, etc... they are going towards self destruction lol.

But seriously, i find it pretentious to speak out this way to give lessons to other clubs. If you are doing things well where you are, stay quiet and be happy with the work you have done.
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Post by LeVersacci Thu May 17, 2012 9:00 pm

Really hope Chelsea wins!
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Post by rwo power Thu May 17, 2012 9:02 pm

Blue wrote:So back to the underdog story in Europe. So how does a club in Europe challenge the likes of United, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, etc without the heavy injection of money?

It is no coincidence that historical goods team are still dominating the football world. Sure you have teams like Everton and Liverpool who are no longer top clubs, and that what happens when they lose strong financial backing.

Madrid and United of the world has a competitive advantage in plunking youngsters also. The best young and global talents usually end up at those places. In America the draft system allows the weaker times to choose ahead of the top teams, when it comes to picking the best young talents.

Big injection of money is the only chance clubs have against the top European clubs.
Well, in the Bundesliga, Borussia Dortmund nicely compete without huge injections of money. They simply improved their scouting and strategies and as you can see they are two times German champions now in the last two years (and that after they were virtually bankrupt in 2005). Okay, they crashed out of the CL this season, but nouveau-rich ManCity were only slightly more successful there, and I'm pretty sure that the BVB will do far better next season.
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