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Post by Donuts Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:48 am

Barcelona will swoop in December once they realize Villa is getting old and big 25m you heard it here first.

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Post by Raptorgunner Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:58 am

OLpower wrote:The lack of ambition. Chelsea and Manchester City are splashing cash buying the best talents available. Manchester United is less successful at that but win trophies and still is a big power.

Arsenal wants to keeps top player by paying two time less than the competition offer and by having a weaker squad of unexperienced young players.

That does not make sense. RVP did not have any logical reason to stay at Arsenal. Not one. Only the sentimental thing could have been a factor. But himp leaving is a totally professional choice. It is like leaving Newcastle or Everton for Arsenal.


Player by player which EPL team has a better team than us with RVP in our squad?
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:21 am

Donuts wrote:Barcelona will swoop in December once they realize Villa is getting old and big 25m you heard it here first.

RVP won't be an Arsenal player in December...
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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:35 am

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OLpower wrote:The lack of ambition. Chelsea and Manchester City are splashing cash buying the best talents available. Manchester United is less successful at that but win trophies and still is a big power.

Arsenal wants to keeps top player by paying two time less than the competition offer and by having a weaker squad of unexperienced young players.

That does not make sense. RVP did not have any logical reason to stay at Arsenal. Not one. Only the sentimental thing could have been a factor. But himp leaving is a totally professional choice. It is like leaving Newcastle or Everton for Arsenal.


Player by player which EPL team has a better team than us with RVP in our squad?

All the other top teams inculding Spurs if they count as one

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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:39 am

So man city and man united
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Post by Quinten Metsys Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:30 am

Pity all those who bought RvP's jersey last year No

Somehow I can't understand how RvP has the heart to leave AFC.I can understand the departures of Cex and Ca$hri, at least they weren't injury-prone like RVP.If,after playing a season and a half of good football,he wants to leave for ManC,then Bacary Sagna should be playing for Barca.

If someone calculated the cumulative time that RVP spent nursing injuries during his time at Arsenal,It would I am sure amount to 2-3 seasons.But we fans still used to MOSTLY blame Diaby for being too injury-prone but not RvP.This was because all the fans knew he was a VERY SPECIAL player and knew that if he stayed healthy for the whole season,then AFC had a real chance of winning something.

If the AFC fans who are a very impatient lot were ready to wait and believe in RvP,Why the eff can't he believe in AW,stay put at the Emirates and help AFC to win?

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Post by mani88 Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:12 pm

Arsène Wenger has re-iterated his desire to keep Robin van Persie at Arsenal Football Club.

Earlier this summer, the Dutch striker indicated he would not be signing a new deal at Emirates Stadium - a decision that prompted speculation he may leave north London.

The 28-year-old is missing the Club’s tour of Asia in order to work on his fitness. Before departing the UK himself, Wenger indicated he wanted to retain his captain but he would be pragmatic about the situation.

“For me, Van Persie is one of the best strikers in the world, if not the best, and my desire is to keep him at the Club.” he told Arsenal Player.

“As for the rest I will do what is in the best interests of Arsenal Football Club. That, at the moment, is where we are. There is not a lot more to say than that.”

However the manager is aware that an on-going situation could affect his side’s start to the new Premier League season. They suffered in that period last year and he would act to avoid a repeat.

“Robin was an exceptional leader last year,” he said, “but we know how much we had to fight to come third because we missed out the start of the season. After seven games we had lost four and we have learned that for us it is vital for us to focus on the start of the season rather than on any transfers.

“If the transfers happen, they happen. As long as you are at the Club you give your best for the Club and that is the only pride you can have as a football player and as a manager.

“As long as you are somewhere you give your best every day for that club. If it changes, it changes. I am convinced that Robin is like that, he is completely focused every day on his job. He loves football, he loves the game and as long as he is here he will do that.”

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Post by MJ Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:40 pm

ernie_schwarz wrote:Pity all those who bought RvP's jersey last year No

Somehow I can't understand how RvP has the heart to leave AFC.I can understand the departures of Cex and Ca$hri, at least they weren't injury-prone like RVP.If,after playing a season and a half of good football,he wants to leave for ManC,then Bacary Sagna should be playing for Barca.

If someone calculated the cumulative time that RVP spent nursing injuries during his time at Arsenal,It would I am sure amount to 2-3 seasons.But we fans still used to MOSTLY blame Diaby for being too injury-prone but not RvP.This was because all the fans knew he was a VERY SPECIAL player and knew that if he stayed healthy for the whole season,then AFC had a real chance of winning something.

If the AFC fans who are a very impatient lot were ready to wait and believe in RvP,Why the eff can't he believe in AW,stay put at the Emirates and help AFC to win?

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I share your pain, I have two RVP home kits and plan on giving them to charity if he leaves the Premier League. I'm burning them if he goes to Manchester Evil or Very Mad
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Post by Iceman Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:26 pm

I don't care about what we do, just so long as we do it swiftly. If we're going to keep him, then let's make sure that he'll stay for the last year and not disrupt the squad. If we're going to sell him, get it done quickly. We don't have time to keep on going back and forth. The longer this saga continue, the worse it is for the club
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:34 pm

Iceman :bow:
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Post by aleumdance Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:31 pm

I am with iceman..he should just leave..

does not deserve to be with this team
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Post by aleumdance Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:32 pm

I am with iceman..he should just leave..

does not deserve to be with this team
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Post by aleumdance Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:34 pm

OLpower wrote:
boss wrote:
Lex wrote:Sell him to Wigan for a fiver
Franco Di Santo ! swap.

btw according 2local media he will join United ...But Why ..why he's wanting 2Leave

Imho.. RvP's "decision "sounds really disrespectful-disguisting-pathetic-irritative n co. BUT isn't it a message-sign 4asn fans that something really strange is happening @asn ...... what the hell is pushing our " key" pl.2 leave.\ Big?

The lack of ambition. Chelsea and Manchester City are splashing cash buying the best talents available. Manchester United is less successful at that but win trophies and still is a big power.

Arsenal wants to keeps top player by paying two time less than the competition offer and by having a weaker squad of unexperienced young players.

That does not make sense. RVP did not have any logical reason to stay at Arsenal. Not one. Only the sentimental thing could have been a factor. But himp leaving is a totally professional choice. It is like leaving Newcastle or Everton for Arsenal.

what lack of ambition?

SUCK BULLCRTAP..

wigan want the trophy as bad as citeh, no team settles for less

secondly chelski and citeh are running at a loss of 150 Million a year

arsenal donm't have any sugar daddy to sustain that

hget ur epl facts right boy
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Post by TalkingReckless Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:50 pm

Man Utd are trying to put themselves in NYSE, just shows how much deep debt they are in that they have to do that.
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Post by aleumdance Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:11 pm

Legend wrote:Man Utd are trying to put themselves in NYSE, just shows how much deep debt they are in that they have to do that.

let them do it...it up to them, infact if I can sell RVP to them fast I would..

then let me see SAF talk about Citeh not knowing the values of english football culture bla blah blah
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Post by urbaNRoots Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:23 pm

Man Utd wont buy RvP.... doesn't make sense to me. They just got Kagawa and have to change formation just for him and signing Robin would mean that he has to move on the wing or convert to a CM.

I think they're only trying to convince fans that they are after big players, put a laughable bid, get refused and say we tried all our best.

That said... Fergie never fails to surprise me Laughing
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Post by julias Sun Jul 22, 2012 2:06 pm

to me RvP is worse than Nasri

I have no problem with RvP leaving because he wants trophies thats fine but to refuse to go on club tour, lying to the fans that its for "fitness" reasons and contemplate leaving to a fierce rival

the rivalry between Arsenal and Utd is nearly as fierce as us and Spurs, its disgusting the idea of him turning out against us with Utd ffs

Henry left, Vieria left, Petit left, Cesc left and not one of the even entertained the idea of leaving for another PL team let alone a flipping rival

I have lost alot of respect for RvP, at least Nasri went on tour and helped us out in that Liverpool game even though his transfer was virtually complete....whats to say he couldn't have picked up a major injury

RvP on the other hand won't even go and play pre season friendlies ffs

disgusted Arsenal fan right here
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Post by lenear1030 Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:07 pm

julias wrote:to me RvP is worse than Nasri

I have no problem with RvP leaving because he wants trophies thats fine but to refuse to go on club tour, lying to the fans that its for "fitness" reasons and contemplate leaving to a fierce rival

the rivalry between Arsenal and Utd is nearly as fierce as us and Spurs, its disgusting the idea of him turning out against us with Utd ffs

Henry left, Vieria left, Petit left, Cesc left and not one of the even entertained the idea of leaving for another PL team let alone a flipping rival

I have lost alot of respect for RvP, at least Nasri went on tour and helped us out in that Liverpool game even though his transfer was virtually complete....whats to say he couldn't have picked up a major injury

RvP on the other hand won't even go and play pre season friendlies ffs


disgusted Arsenal fan right here


i agree with you, but im sure most people will still give fabregas a pass for not being with the team. i lost more respect for him when he did that than anything.
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:08 pm

I wonder if the idea of swapping rvp with giovinco was/ should be considered. Isn't he three type of player we need at the moment?

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Post by MJ Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:51 pm

According to The Sun, money is Van Persie's primary concern and he wants to sign with whoever can offer him £10.1 million per year or approximately £195,000 per week.
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Post by Raptorgunner Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:55 pm

MJGunner wrote:According to The Sun, money is Van Persie's primary concern and he wants to sign with whoever can offer him £10.1 million per year or approximately £195,000 per week.

The sun could be right for the first time, Very Happy I said it this many times if we offer him the money he wants he would do back flips all the way to Asia to with the team.

Its his final contract and wants to get the maximum money, if he cared about trophies he would have left last year when our team lost almost half of the team.
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Post by Raptorgunner Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:43 am

This is probably the best article I have read in goal.com
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By Chris Davie

We've grown so accustomed to the loathsome traits ingrained in football, the diving, the relentless badgering of officials, that player power has ghosted into dressing rooms across the land unchallenged and seemingly impossible to eradicate.

Like a transfer saga that you wish had ended before it'd begun, Robin van Persie has provided us with a target for our disdain for the summer. The Dutchman's latest mutinous act came on Saturday as Arsenal were forced to creep out a statement confirming their wantaway striker was not to travel with the squad for their pre-season tour of Asia, in order to work on his fitness.
Ironic, really, that 'fitness', a buzzword associated with Van Persie's time at the Emirates, is now being used to gloss over his dwindling professionalism and loyalty.

Last term aside, when Van Persie managed to make an appearance in every Premier League fixture, the Dutchman, because of his fitness, or lack of it, has averaged a show of just 22 league games per season since arriving at Arsenal in May 2004.

Even worse reading for the striker, who will be 29 next month, is his goal return in the Premier League before his glut last season, which stands at an average of nine over the course of seven campaigns.

But with success being an instantaneous requirement for elite clubs in Europe, Van Persie, regardless of possessing a CV riddled with niggles and injuries which have hampered his ability to contribute to Arsenal's cause, holds all the aces following his stellar campaign as he attempts to push through a transfer.

Putting statistics to one side, Van Persie has struggled to remain dignified in his attempts to leave the Emirates. Publicly denouncing the ambitions of the club, thus undermining Arsene Wenger, his statement looked even more hollow given that Arsenal had already strengthened with the signings of Lukas Podolski and Olivier Giroud.

His words earlier this month, which were released on his personal website, also reduced his transfer fee significantly as Manchester City, United and Juventus will all bid in the knowledge that Arsenal will want to cash in on a player who will leave the club for nothing next summer. There's no loyalty repaid in a team and manager who have waited seven years for him to shine.

Yet during those years when, at some stage or other, he was sidelined through injury, Van Persie seemed content with the club's ambitions; there were no public cries of concern from the striker then. The subject of money, which the Dutchman denied was any influence in his decision, is tiptoed around when players make it known they want to leave. It will be a refreshing sight when someone concedes their move is motivated primarily by financial gain.

In a week when we've seen Ledley King, a sublime defender and role model for Tottenham, retire from the game due to a chronic knee injury, it's disheartening to envisage that on the Premier League horizon is a queue of players ready to embark on a similar approach to Van Persie in order to fulfil their own agendas.

But Van Persie is just one example in the growing trend of player power. Carlos Tevez displayed last year that it's now acceptable to publicly belittle a manager in the comfortable knowledge that the club still have to pay his extortionate salary, command a reasonable transfer fee should they get the chance to sell or, ultimately, welcome him back into the team because all other options have been exhausted.

Wayne Rooney is another whose public plea to leave Old Trafford in October 2010 was rewarded with a bumper pay deal just two days later. Sir Alex Ferguson claimed Rooney was the recipient of poor advice from his own agent, Paul Stretford, but ultimately the player needs to understand the lack of transparency undermines any credibility they have with fans and supporters.

The shining beacon in this gloomy haze of bluffing and false anxiety over a club's lack of 'direction' has been Tottenham, who greeted Luka Modric's transfer request last summer with little more than an acknowledgement of the midfielder's wish to leave White Hart Lane. Spurs were not forced into any sale, while Modric had no choice but to continue playing.

Modric is being tipped for a move to Real Madrid this time, but Daniel Levy is using the Croatian's contract in order to command the best fee possible - and that's where Arsenal have gone wrong. Their failure to tie down Samir Nasri and Van Persie to long-term deals has seen a repeat scenario at the Emirates, although in the Dutchman's case, Wenger and the Arsenal board were naive enough to expect seven years of loyalty would be reciprocated.

Loyalty. It no longer has a place in football.
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Post by S Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:26 am

MJGunner wrote:According to The Sun, money is Van Persie's primary concern and he wants to sign with whoever can offer him £10.1 million per year or approximately £195,000 per week.

That figure must be inclusive of taxes..Even City wouldnt pay that much for him.
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Post by Lex Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:45 am

You underestimate the utter idiocy of Manchester City
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Post by aleumdance Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:52 am

who wants to bet if Usmanov decides to give rvp 250k a week personally

he would stay

RVP can go, money grabbing ass
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Post by Raptorgunner Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:22 pm

aleumdance wrote:who wants to bet if Usmanov decides to give rvp 250k a week personally

he would stay

RVP can go, money grabbing ass

At this point I am glad that we dont have that kind of owner, RVP truly showed his truly color and he should be kicked out or Arsenal.

Any club RVP goes to will be mistake for the club, the money he is asking no team in their right mind should pay that.
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