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Post by Babun Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:43 pm

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is reported to be considering boycotting Euro 2012 football matches in Ukraine to protest its government's treatment of the country's jailed former prime minister, Yulia Tymoshenko.

There is a growing debate among German politicians about whether they should boycott Euro 2012 soccer games played in Ukraine.

The news website Spiegel Online reports that if former Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko isn't released from jail by the time the tournament starts, Chancellor Angela Merkel is planning to advise ministers in her cabinet to refrain from attending any games played in the country. An exception would be made for Interior Minister Hans-Peter Friedrich, whose portfolio includes sports.

Friedrich has said last week that he intended to attend Germany's Group B game against the Netherlands, which is to be played in Kharkiv, where Tymoshenko is serving a seven-year sentence for abuse of power. However Friedrich said he would only attend the game if he was allowed to first visit Tymoshenko, who was forcibly taken from jail and moved to a hospital last weekend.

Daughter appeals to Germany for help

The 51-year-old Tymoshenko, who had long been complaining of acute back pain, claims to have been beaten by wardens during her removal from the jail and began a hunger strike on April 20. Photos released to the press appear to show bruising.

In an interview with the Sunday paper Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung, her daughter Yevhenia described her mother's condition as "very weak." She also appealed to Germany for help.

"Save my mother's life before it is too late," she said.

The chairman of the opposition Social Democrats has called on all German politicians to stay away from Euro 2012 games in Ukraine. Sigmar Gabriel told the Bild am Sonntag newspaper that as long as people were being incarcerated on political grounds, there could be no business as usual with Ukraine.

"Under these circumstances the EU association treaty (with Ukraine) cannot be ratified," Gabriel said.

http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15917228,00.html
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Post by Nishankly Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:47 pm

I want her to get justice, But i also want to watch the Euros.

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Post by Le Samourai Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:49 pm

Get it done !


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Post by TalkingReckless Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:49 pm

only the PM and other Ministers will boycott it... not the German FA or team
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Post by Grande_Milano Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:13 pm

bs argument

leave sport and politics separate
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:28 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:bs argument

leave sport and politics separate

No. Sports and politics aren't seperate, and never were seperate, so you can't "leave" them seperate, you can seperate them, if you like, but the status quo certainly is them being intertwined.

The Ukraine got the Euros not because they're the footballiest of countries, they got it to make a huge tourism advert and present themselves as a modern country. If they're torturing members of the opposition at the same time, f*ck those guys, we're not helping them doing their advert.

We won't be part of a dictatorship commercial, and TBH if anybody knows that you don't just ignore your friendly neighbourhood dictatorship, it's ze Germans.

BTW I made a thread on this today in the offtopic section, for the non-football related part. It had some Hoeneß in it, though.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:40 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:bs argument

leave sport and politics separate
Since when have sport and politics ever been separate? Laughing
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Post by Ganso Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:43 pm

I feel bad for the German players if this goes through,golden generation that has a huge chance to carve their names in football history
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Post by Grande_Milano Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:43 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:bs argument

leave sport and politics separate

No. Sports and politics aren't seperate, and never were seperate, so you can't "leave" them seperate, you can seperate them, if you like, but the status quo certainly is them being intertwined.

The Ukraine got the Euros not because they're the footballiest of countries, they got it to make a huge tourism advert and present themselves as a modern country. If they're torturing members of the opposition at the same time, f*ck those guys, we're not helping them doing their advert.

We won't be part of a dictatorship commercial, and TBH if anybody knows that you don't just ignore your friendly neighbourhood dictatorship, it's ze Germans.

BTW I made a thread on this today in the offtopic section, for the non-football related part. It had some Hoeneß in it, though.

loled when reading this. angela merkel is licking vlad putin's ass, a drug dealer, dictator and a major crook

but he is strategic partner? we cant offend vlad, ze zis zill make him mad


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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:45 pm

1) Russia isn't part of the European Union
2) Merkel is a spineless lardass either way

Doesn't change anything about the argument against the Ukrainian regime. :coffee:
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Post by Le Samourai Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:45 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:bs argument

leave sport and politics separate

No. Sports and politics aren't seperate, and never were seperate, so you can't "leave" them seperate, you can seperate them, if you like, but the status quo certainly is them being intertwined.

The Ukraine got the Euros not because they're the footballiest of countries, they got it to make a huge tourism advert and present themselves as a modern country. If they're torturing members of the opposition at the same time, f*ck those guys, we're not helping them doing their advert.

We won't be part of a dictatorship commercial, and TBH if anybody knows that you don't just ignore your friendly neighbourhood dictatorship, it's ze Germans.

BTW I made a thread on this today in the offtopic section, for the non-football related part. It had some Hoeneß in it, though.

loled when reading this. angela merkel is licking vlad putin's ass, a drug dealer, dictator and a major crook

but he is strategic partner? we cant offend vlad, ze zis zill make him mad

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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:46 pm

Ganso wrote:I feel bad for the German players if this goes through,golden generation that has a huge chance to carve their names in football history
It's just about our government, mate, the German NT will play either way.
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Post by Grande_Milano Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:48 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:1) Russia isn't part of the European Union
2) Merkel is a spineless lardass either way

Doesn't change anything about the argument against the Ukrainian regime. :coffee:

ur re good at avoiding arguments thrown at you Twisted Evil

still, germany supports dictatorial regimes across the world

but that eu remark saves the last drop of respect for angela and her fellow politicians Twisted Evil
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:00 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
ur re good at avoiding arguments thrown at you Twisted Evil

I tend to avoid basically anything I deem irrelevant.

still, germany supports dictatorial regimes across the world

Yes, and I wish we'd stop. Doesn't mean we have to support this one as well.

but that eu remark saves the last drop of respect for angela and her fellow politicians Twisted Evil

There never was any reason to respect Angela Merkel, and the fact that it has taken her this long to act, AGAIN, is case and point. The old hag is nothing but a power monger, she exists solely to be re-elected, she doesn't care about anything else.

She should've acted way sooner, the second Tymoschenko was thrown in jail. The same way Germany never should've supported, or tolerated, the likes of Mubarak, Gaddafi or Bashir.

Though there are a few words to be said for Germany having some difficulty in not supportign people like Mubarrak, who kept a lot of Islamists out of Israels hair, which is something Germany has liked for the past couple of decades.
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:03 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:
Grande_Milano wrote:bs argument

leave sport and politics separate

No. Sports and politics aren't seperate, and never were seperate, so you can't "leave" them seperate, you can seperate them, if you like, but the status quo certainly is them being intertwined.

The Ukraine got the Euros not because they're the footballiest of countries, they got it to make a huge tourism advert and present themselves as a modern country. If they're torturing members of the opposition at the same time, f*ck those guys, we're not helping them doing their advert.

We won't be part of a dictatorship commercial, and TBH if anybody knows that you don't just ignore your friendly neighbourhood dictatorship, it's ze Germans.

BTW I made a thread on this today in the offtopic section, for the non-football related part. It had some Hoeneß in it, though.

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Post by Adit Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:15 pm

Sport and Football is related how ever i fail to see what has this former ukranian prime minister being in jail has anything to do with football.?
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Post by pUsHa Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:24 pm

What they want that b*tch out ? She deserves the jail for all those millions she has stolen .
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:24 pm

Adit wrote:Sport and Football is related how ever i fail to see what has this former ukranian prime minister being in jail has anything to do with football.?

UEFA has the universal human rights in their charat so they're expected to give a shit about countries violating human rights.
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Post by pUsHa Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:36 pm

And when politicians steal money from the people it's fine that aint violating anything ... every politician from Ukraine with power should be in jail right now ... as most in the rest of the world ...
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:38 pm

Yes, a lot of people should be sanctioned, I agree that boycotting the Ukraine won't make the world perfect.

But it's really obvious, it's in-your-face, it's from a European Union member state, and this really could cost them.

I really think politicians boycotting the Euros will help, and more importantly, not doing that would send the wrong message.
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