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Post by MJ Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:29 pm

As far as I could tell (via one quick search in the 'search topics' bar) there have been no threads like this which surprises me even though the transfer rumors thread becomes this kinda thing sometimes Razz

You're Arsene Wenger and it's deadline day.
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Arsene Wenger, aka You

You have the current Arsenal squad plus £50 million and all transfer target are still available and we've just finished 3rd if that changes anything (which it probably wouldn't unless you're Arsene Wenger [which you are] and if you are Arsene Wenger then please get off this forum until you've secured 3rd place and get a certain Dutch captain to re-sign).

Wages, fitness, windows closing, clubs unwillingness to sell etc. are not variables as this is to gauge the opinion of how our window should go according to the fine Gooners here in the Arsenal section. I put a lot of work into this as well, what with the tables and the fonts and the colors... What a Face

Obviously the prices are not exact and not all rumored names are listed so if there's anyone else you'd like to buy or sell then just add a reasonable price to their name.

Let's see what you guys can cook up Cool

Buying Prices:
Player Price
Hazard/Gotze £35 Million
Lukas Podolski£12 Million*
Olivier Giroud £20 Million
Younes Belhanda £15 Million
Jan Vertonghen £15 Million
Christian Eriksen £30 Million
Yann M'vila£25 Million
Yoann Gourcuff £10 Million**
Mathieu Flamini £5 Million**
Daniel Sturridge £20 Million
Marvin Martin £12 Million*
Hernanes £16 Million
Sigdursson £10 Million
Shinji Kagawa £18 Million
Clint Dempsey £10 Million
Demba Ba£20 Million
Yossi Benayoun £3 Million
Sessegnon £12 Million
Matias Suarez £12 Million
Junior Hoilett £8 Million *
Leighton Baines £10 Million



* = price is lower due to team fighting off relegation
**= price is lower due to very poor form or lack of fitness

Selling Prices:
Player Price
Manuel Almunia £.5 Million
Sebastien Squillaci £1 Million
Denilson £5 Million
Andrei Arshavin £5 Million
Nicklas Bendtner £10 Million
Marouane Chamakh £6 Million
Abou Diaby £5 Million
Djourou £8 Million
Park £5 Million
Carlos Vela £10 Million
(£55 million altogether)
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Post by beatrixasdfghjk. Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:24 am

Almunia's leaving on a free, I can't see Wenger letting Djourou, Diaby, Park, or Arshavin go :L.

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Post by Emaharg Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:39 am

I would love Eriksen just to see a midfield of Song Eriksen and Wilshere.
We have enough wide players as Ryo will probably be in the 1st team next season, possibly could do with another defender if Djourou leaves which seems unlikely.
Ramsey while he has been poor is still young and when Wilshere returns will he will have to improve or not get game time.
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Post by lenear1030 Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:52 am

I'm buying Podolski, Hernanes, and Vertoghen. That's 43m.

I'm selling Squillaci, Denilson, Arshavin, Bendtner, and Vela. That's 31m.


I'll net 12m in transfer expenses... The board wouldn't be too dissatisfied with that would they? lol




sidenote: Belhanda intriuges me, as do Sessegnon and Dempsey as they'd be very useful for us. If I bought Sessegnon or Dempsey I'd loaning Chamakh out.
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Post by usman111 Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:45 am

1. keep the current squad as it is .
2. Get one creative mid feilder in case rosiscky gets injured gotze/erikson
3. Get striker giroud.
4. make signing before deadline day and when summer camp starts to make sure the team gels together.
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Post by Raptorgunner Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:53 am

Get rid of all the deadwood, including Djourou.

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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:52 am

Get rid of Price
Manuel Almunia Free
Sebastien Squillaci £1 Million
Denilson £5 Million
Andrei Arshavin £5 Million
Nicklas Bendtner £10 Million
Marouane Chamakh £6 Million
Abou Diaby £5 Million
Park £5 Million
Carlos Vela £10 Million
(£47 million altogether)

Get Price
Lukas Podolski £12 Million
Eden Hazard £35 Million
Kyle Bartley Back from loan
Afobe/Campbell Back from loan
Cesc Fabregas* Arsenal DNA

(£47 million altogether)

*I'm kidding about Cex although wouldn't mind him back.
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Post by Artilleristen Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:09 am

urbaNRoots wrote:
Get rid of Price
Manuel Almunia Free
Sebastien Squillaci £1 Million
Denilson £5 Million
Andrei Arshavin £5 Million
Nicklas Bendtner £10 Million
Marouane Chamakh £6 Million
Abou Diaby £5 Million
Park £5 Million
Carlos Vela £10 Million
(£47 million altogether)

Get Price
Lukas Podolski £12 Million
Eden Hazard £35 Million
Kyle Bartley Back from loan
Afobe/Campbell Back from loan
Cesc Fabregas* Arsenal DNA

(£47 million altogether)

*I'm kidding about Cex although wouldn't mind him back.

I agree with most of what you have here, but Fabianski will leave, because he doesn't get any time. and you forgot to put Ryo coming back from loan.
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Post by urbaNRoots Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:33 am

If Fabianski leaves than we have to bring Buffone (Mannone Razz) back to our squad after having a quite good 2nd half-season with Hull City. As for Ryo I think he needs another loan-spell (looks still too raw for me).

If we bring Hazard than it's pointless to bring Ryo back or other way around. We would have too many wingers in our squad.
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Post by REWB Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:02 am

usman111 wrote:1. keep the current squad as it is .
2. Get one creative mid feilder in case rosiscky gets injured gotze/erikson
3. Get striker giroud.
4. make signing before deadline day and when summer camp starts to make sure the team gels together.

we have to offload to make space/the money for those players you listed mate.
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Post by REWB Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:04 am

urbaNRoots wrote:If Fabianski leaves than we have to bring Buffone (Mannone Razz) back to our squad after having a quite good 2nd half-season with Hull City. As for Ryo I think he needs another loan-spell (looks still too raw for me).

If we bring Hazard than it's pointless to bring Ryo back or other way around. We would have too many wingers in our squad.

forget hazard, he is overrated and talks too much. erikson is way more creative and a better player.
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Post by MJ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:17 am

beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:Almunia's leaving on a free, I can't see Wenger letting Djourou, Diaby, Park, or Arshavin go :L.
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Mine:

Get rid of all the deadwood mentioned except for Djourou (now I have 97 million)

Buy Benayoun, Podolski, Vertonghen, M'vila, Sigdursson and Dempsey(75, the board is gonna be pissed)

Loan out Sigdursson

Result: Premier League Title, Slaughter everyone in the Champions League except Barcelona because Podolski gets a red card against them for throwing the ball in with his feet touching the line.
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Post by TalkingReckless Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:53 pm

We can get more then 5m for Arshavin, Zenit want him and he is still Russian Captain. he could easily get 10m for him.

and no way would i want Djourou to leave, even though he may not be one of the best defenders around, he loves Arsenal and has a lot of close friendships with people in the Team... and is a very useful player against lower league teams and Cup games...



Get rid of Price
Manuel Almunia Free
Sebastien Squillaci £1 Million
Denilson £5 Million
Andrei Arshavin £10 Million
Nicklas Bendtner £10 Million
Marouane Chamakh £6 Million
Park £5 Million
Carlos Vela £10 Million
Lansbury £2 Million (see no future)

(£49 million altogether)

Get Price
Lukas Podolski £12 Million
Marvin Martin £12 Million
Stevan Jovetic ????
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Post by Jay29 Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:29 pm

Mine is going to be so much simpler than everyone elses...

Sell: Almunia (will leave for free, regardless), Mannone (wants first team football), Squillaci, Denilson, Arshavin, Park, Vela and Chamakh.

Loan: Fabiasnki (since he wants game time, but have recall option), Ramsey, Miyaichi, Afobe and Campbell.

Buy: Podolski and Sigurdsson

Going by the supposed prices, that's £22mil spent and £32mil recouped.

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Post by REWB Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:34 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:Mine is going to be so much simpler than everyone elses...

Sell: Almunia (will leave for free, regardless), Mannone (wants first team football), Squillaci, Denilson, Arshavin, Park, Vela and Chamakh.

Loan: Fabiasnki (since he wants game time, but have recall option), Ramsey, Miyaichi, Afobe and Campbell.

Buy: Podolski and Sigurdsson

Going by the supposed prices, that's £22mil spent and £32mil recouped.

that is more realistic, but it wont push us forward to were we want to be. have you watched sigurdsson? is he really good btw?

if we really want to make a push, we should go for erikson but that is kinda tricky, so belhenda would be a good alternative.
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Post by Raptorgunner Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:43 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:Mine is going to be so much simpler than everyone elses...

Sell: Almunia (will leave for free, regardless), Mannone (wants first team football), Squillaci, Denilson, Arshavin, Park, Vela and Chamakh.

Loan: Fabiasnki (since he wants game time, but have recall option), Ramsey, Miyaichi, Afobe and Campbell.

Buy: Podolski and Sigurdsson

Going by the supposed prices, that's £22mil spent and £32mil recouped.

I take this any day.
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Post by Jay29 Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:46 pm

I've seen Sigurdsson plenty of times. Creativity is there, and is excellent in front of goal, especially from range and set-pieces. Not as quick or direct as Eriksen or Hazard, but I wasn't really looking for pace and directness in the midfield, just creativity and the ability to support the forwards and score goals as I feel that's what we lack in that attacking midfield area.

I see few reasons why a player like that wouldn't push us forward. We've won 9 of our last 10 games with Rosicky in midfield, who's done a very good job but I wouldn't want him starting every single game next season if we can get someone better - which we most certainly can (this is the reason why I want to send Ramsey on loan, since it opens up a spot in the squad). So why can't we go further with Sigurdsson, who I believe will be a better player? Not to mention Podolski's addition adds further creativity and goal threat to our attack.

I wouldn't be opposed to Eriksen - don't think anybody would - but my doubt over him is that he's not great in front of goal.

I guess my approach to this is adding a more potent goalscoring threat to the midfield, so we wouldn't have to rely on van Persie to goals and can let him link-up with three players who can score goals. We'd become a less predictable side, that way.

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Post by MJ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:51 pm

Huh. Yeah I never considered that angle Ramsey-wise. I'd loan out Ramsey as well. Sharp stuff Jay. Sharp stuff.

You've made your board a lot of money. I see plenty of contract extensions in your future.
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Post by SamuelJayC Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:58 pm

Good fun thread but not realistic at all.

Flamini is also out of contract this summer, so won't cost £5m.

Realistically out:

Release Almunia.
Sell Squillaci, Djourou, Denilson, Park, Chamakh, Arshavin, Vela & Bendtner.

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In terms of ins, if all the players I have mentioned above leave, then we will need some a healthy amount of signings.

I would welcome Joel Campbell (w/permit permitting) & Ryo Miyaichi into our squad after loans out. I would find PL loans for Lansbury & Bartley, possibly next Jan after carling cup games. I would try to sign Benayoun permanently too.

Of course, we anticipate Podolski arrival.

So then, the squad would look like:

Szczesny
Fabianski
Mannone

Vermaelen
Koscielny
Mertesacker
Vertonghen
Sagna
Jenkinson
Gibbs
Santos

Song
Arteta
Wilshere
Rosicky
Ramsey
Benayoun
Oxlade-Chamberlain
Gervinho
Frimpong (not in squad until jan due to inj, then loan out)
Coquelin
Diaby (?)
Ryo

Van Persie
Podolski
Walcott
Kalou
Campbell

12/13

Szczesny

Sagna Koscielny Vermaelen Gibbs

Song Arteta

Walcott Wilshere Podolski

Van Persie


Fabianski

Jenkinson Mertesacker Vertonghen Santos

Diaby Ramsey

Chamberlain Rosicky Gervinho

Kalou

Thoughts?


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Post by Sina Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:03 am

Im saying this in every thread Very Happy
In:Giroud-Podolski-Sigurdsson-Yossi

OUT;Vela-Bendtner-Chamakh-park

atlleast 75% of that can happen eco smile

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Post by MJ Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:10 am

Yeah of course it's not realistic. I just want to see what everyone wants out of the summer transfer window tongue
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Post by SamuelJayC Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:14 am

MJGunner wrote:Yeah of course it's not realistic. I just want to see what everyone wants out of the summer transfer window tongue

I know MJ Thumbs up
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Post by DuringTheWar Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:14 am

Id rather keep ramsey than bring in sigurdsson. I dont think aaron deserves to lose his place to someone like that honestly
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Post by Sri Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:33 am

Shit. I have so much I want to say on this thread! But my damn work keeps me busy. Hopefully I will find time soon! :/

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Post by MJ Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:22 pm

Very nice Sam. Formidable side (and sub-side)

I still haven't been able to gauge everyone's views on Kalou. I think he would be a great little buy if he would be content with a very reduced role.

Same with Benayoun. He's a fantastic player and brings so much to the table (experience, intelligence, work ethic, leadership, talent) but he's voiced his discontent with his role (even though he's been played a lot recently) I think he would be a great captain to our FA Cup and Carling Cup squads and a good squad player but the question is how willing is he to accept that role? Same for Kalou.
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