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Post by MMM Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:43 pm

DeviAngel wrote:I would only give 60 mil for FALCAO !!!
We really can't do that devi. next year we will be participating in CL and certainly we don't have enough depth. we have to spend wisely and I trust in marotta

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:45 pm

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DeviAngel wrote:I would only give 60 mil for FALCAO !!!
We really can't do that devi. next year we will be participating in CL and certainly we don't have enough depth. we have to spend wisely and I trust in marotta

I know but I just said if I am choosing an ST for that Money than Falcao is the one Smile
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Post by MMM Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:45 pm

MMM wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:I would only give 60 mil for FALCAO !!!
We really can't do that devi. next year we will be participating in CL and certainly we don't have enough depth. we have to spend wisely and I trust in marotta
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Post by Luca Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:46 pm

Matri is great if Juventus were playing a 4-4-2, I think he could do well in the 3-5-2 but one thing is for sure he needs to be next to another striker and he needs to get the ball in the box. He's not getting that usually, and in the 4-3-3, not a fan.

Still love Matri but he just isn't as effective this season and he isn't good enough to build around

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Post by MMM Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:46 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
MMM wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:I would only give 60 mil for FALCAO !!!
We really can't do that devi. next year we will be participating in CL and certainly we don't have enough depth. we have to spend wisely and I trust in marotta

I know but I just said if I am choosing an ST for that Money than Falcao is the one Smile
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:54 pm

--Vucinic --- Falcao--Matri---Suarez--
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Post by MMM Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:24 pm

Dzeko is a good option as well
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Post by Luca Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:51 pm

I don't know if Dzeko, Matri, Falcao types are fitting for Conte's game though. Like, so far, it looks like these kinds of strikers just aren't as effective.

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:04 pm

Luca wrote:I don't know if Dzeko, Matri, Falcao types are fitting for Conte's game though. Like, so far, it looks like these kinds of strikers just aren't as effective.

depends on the formation
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Post by Luca Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:17 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:I don't know if Dzeko, Matri, Falcao types are fitting for Conte's game though. Like, so far, it looks like these kinds of strikers just aren't as effective.

depends on the formation

For sure, I agree.
However, if Falcao were to join would you want to build the formation and team around him? I mean, obviously he is very talented but that would be changing the dynamic of a team that has done really well playing in this way.

And this way is not focused on the striker on the middle. It's focused on the midfield, then the defense, then the wings, and then the striker.

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:38 pm

Luca wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:I don't know if Dzeko, Matri, Falcao types are fitting for Conte's game though. Like, so far, it looks like these kinds of strikers just aren't as effective.

depends on the formation

For sure, I agree.
However, if Falcao were to join would you want to build the formation and team around him? I mean, obviously he is very talented but that would be changing the dynamic of a team that has done really well playing in this way.

And this way is not focused on the striker on the middle. It's focused on the midfield, then the defense, then the wings, and then the striker.

Wouldn't mind seeing 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-3-1

---Licht-- Barzagli-- Chiellini-- Kolarov?-
-----------Marchiso---Pirlo----Vidal---
------------Jovetic--Vucinic-ADP/Giaccherini-----
------------------------Falcao-----------

Or

--------Marchisio------Pirlo------
-Jovetic---------Vidal------Vucinic---
------------------Falcao----------
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Post by Cotes Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:47 pm

Cavani!
El Matador!
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:16 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Luca wrote:I don't know if Dzeko, Matri, Falcao types are fitting for Conte's game though. Like, so far, it looks like these kinds of strikers just aren't as effective.

depends on the formation

For sure, I agree.
However, if Falcao were to join would you want to build the formation and team around him? I mean, obviously he is very talented but that would be changing the dynamic of a team that has done really well playing in this way.

And this way is not focused on the striker on the middle. It's focused on the midfield, then the defense, then the wings, and then the striker.

Wouldn't mind seeing 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-3-1

---Licht-- Barzagli-- Chiellini-- Kolarov?-
-----------Marchiso---Pirlo----Vidal---
------------Jovetic--Vucinic-ADP/Giaccherini-----
------------------------Falcao-----------

Or

--------Marchisio------Pirlo------
-Jovetic---------Vidal------Vucinic---
------------------Falcao----------


The second formation is beautiful Razz. I would love that.
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Post by Cotes Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:45 pm

Cavani presses teams...
Serie A & Champions League proven...
Great penalty & freekick taker...
Can be used as a target man because of his height,poacher because of his speed & placement & can play behind the striker because of his good passes...
Cavani without a doubt...Suarez is a great player & I'd love for him to come to Turin but if I gotta choose between the 2...EL MATADOR!
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Post by KIFFLO Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:45 pm

IF they will not be offering Del Piero new contract, then I woud take Berbatov free and then buy Suarez... I like that Suarez has skills but still works his socks off every game, he never stops running. His workrate reminds me of Tevez. And I think that he has been unlucky with the goalscoring. With Juves possesion game he would be BEAST
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Post by inderbaby Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:51 am

KIFFLO wrote:IF they will not be offering Del Piero new contract, then I woud take Berbatov free and then buy Suarez... I like that Suarez has skills but still works his socks off every game, he never stops running. His workrate reminds me of Tevez. And I think that he has been unlucky with the goalscoring. With Juves possesion game he would be BEAST

agree with you there bro...I would also take Farfan for free and buy Giroud from Montpellier :shisha:

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Post by Cotes Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:17 am

Farfan would be great on the right hand side with Pepe...
With Estigarriba & Vucinic on the left..
Farfan is wicked fast & great crosses kinda like Valencia!
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Post by Lynx100 Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:00 am

1. Need a classic CF - Tall, strong, great in the air, a proper target man
2. Berbatov (because damn cheap and very classy - quality player)
3. Jovetic (because just plain awesome)
4. RW/ST - Farfan is a good option. But I prefer Nani (though no chance of getting him).
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Post by Milan31 Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:46 am

IF you guys get Suarez I will be very very jelly Sad He is my favourite player in the BPL.
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Post by Cotes Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:38 pm

Milan31 wrote:IF you guys get Suarez I will be very very jelly Sad He is my favourite player in the BPL.

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Post by juventrini Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:22 pm

Cotes wrote:Cavani presses teams...
Serie A & Champions League proven...
Great penalty & freekick taker...
Can be used as a target man because of his height,poacher because of his speed & placement & can play behind the striker because of his good passes...
Cavani without a doubt...Suarez is a great player & I'd love for him to come to Turin but if I gotta choose between the 2...EL MATADOR!

first post i read in this thread and the only post worth reading...u sum it up perfectly there bro...also what ppl need to realise that suarez is more of a second striker...we NEED a CF..

and how can u get a jamaican flag and i cant find a trini one?!?!

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:09 pm

as much as we need a CF we shouldn't forget we need a quality SS as well


its a hard choice between Cavani [quality CF] and Suarez [quality SS], I would say we need both of them, we must be prepared to spend BIG if we wanna do anything meaningful in the CL next season,,

I say we sell Vucinic [not quality, plus on/off performances] and we get Suarez + Cavani, also sell Matri as well.......

we could have killed it all last summer when we had the chance and got Aguero [perfect Del Piero replacement, good attitude and professional] yet Mr. Marotta [stingy with money as f**k] always has a way of messing things up.

I always called for Kun but most people were not on board with the idea, his performances this season tells for itself.

now with Balotelli's mess up, I can say Tevez [alternative quality SS] s out of our reach now, but if its worth it to dream I would make a mega bid for Kun if we can or Tevez if possible.....

I believe Tevez/Kun >>>> Suarez when it comes to SS role...
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Post by Cotes Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:03 pm

juventrini wrote:
Cotes wrote:Cavani presses teams...
Serie A & Champions League proven...
Great penalty & freekick taker...
Can be used as a target man because of his height,poacher because of his speed & placement & can play behind the striker because of his good passes...
Cavani without a doubt...Suarez is a great player & I'd love for him to come to Turin but if I gotta choose between the 2...EL MATADOR!

first post i read in this thread and the only post worth reading...u sum it up perfectly there bro...also what ppl need to realise that suarez is more of a second striker...we NEED a CF..

and how can u get a jamaican flag and i cant find a trini one?!?!

Thanks man...& Idk about the flags
maybe u can ask one of the admins to add it...
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Post by Cotes Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:16 pm

elmystique wrote:as much as we need a CF we shouldn't forget we need a quality SS as well


its a hard choice between Cavani [quality CF] and Suarez [quality SS], I would say we need both of them, we must be prepared to spend BIG if we wanna do anything meaningful in the CL next season,,

I say we sell Vucinic [not quality, plus on/off performances] and we get Suarez + Cavani, also sell Matri as well.......

we could have killed it all last summer when we had the chance and got Aguero [perfect Del Piero replacement, good attitude and professional] yet Mr. Marotta [stingy with money as f**k] always has a way of messing things up.

I always called for Kun but most people were not on board with the idea, his performances this season tells for itself.

now with Balotelli's mess up, I can say Tevez [alternative quality SS] s out of our reach now, but if its worth it to dream I would make a mega bid for Kun if we can or Tevez if possible.....

I believe Tevez/Kun >>>> Suarez when it comes to SS role...

Sell Vucinic????????
The man had been playing with one foot all season...
He has a knee problem & maybe u haven't noticed but when Vucinic is on form...he is one of the most deadly dribbler & passer in the game of football...I proved that vs Milan in the second leg of the Coppa Italia...

For the first time I don't think we can blame we can blame Marotta for not getting Aguero...
Even if Marotta had put up the 45 Mil...he would've went to Man City because they would've outbid us & no one expected Juve to be having such a great season...so he would have went to Premier League where he'd get more exposure not to mention Champions League football...
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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:34 pm

Cotes wrote:
elmystique wrote:as much as we need a CF we shouldn't forget we need a quality SS as well


its a hard choice between Cavani [quality CF] and Suarez [quality SS], I would say we need both of them, we must be prepared to spend BIG if we wanna do anything meaningful in the CL next season,,

I say we sell Vucinic [not quality, plus on/off performances] and we get Suarez + Cavani, also sell Matri as well.......

we could have killed it all last summer when we had the chance and got Aguero [perfect Del Piero replacement, good attitude and professional] yet Mr. Marotta [stingy with money as f**k] always has a way of messing things up.

I always called for Kun but most people were not on board with the idea, his performances this season tells for itself.

now with Balotelli's mess up, I can say Tevez [alternative quality SS] s out of our reach now, but if its worth it to dream I would make a mega bid for Kun if we can or Tevez if possible.....

I believe Tevez/Kun >>>> Suarez when it comes to SS role...

Sell Vucinic????????
The man had been playing with one foot all season...
He has a knee problem & maybe u haven't noticed but when Vucinic is on form...he is one of the most deadly dribbler & passer in the game of football...I proved that vs Milan in the second leg of the Coppa Italia...

For the first time I don't think we can blame we can blame Marotta for not getting Aguero...
Even if Marotta had put up the 45 Mil...he would've went to Man City because they would've outbid us & no one expected Juve to be having such a great season...so he would have went to Premier League where he'd get more exposure not to mention Champions League football...

I would definitely sell Vucinic if we are getting a quality SS in the mold of Suarez, Tevez or Aguero.

pls tell me you would not....
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Post by Luca Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:56 pm

Cotes wrote:
elmystique wrote:as much as we need a CF we shouldn't forget we need a quality SS as well


its a hard choice between Cavani [quality CF] and Suarez [quality SS], I would say we need both of them, we must be prepared to spend BIG if we wanna do anything meaningful in the CL next season,,

I say we sell Vucinic [not quality, plus on/off performances] and we get Suarez + Cavani, also sell Matri as well.......

we could have killed it all last summer when we had the chance and got Aguero [perfect Del Piero replacement, good attitude and professional] yet Mr. Marotta [stingy with money as f**k] always has a way of messing things up.

I always called for Kun but most people were not on board with the idea, his performances this season tells for itself.

now with Balotelli's mess up, I can say Tevez [alternative quality SS] s out of our reach now, but if its worth it to dream I would make a mega bid for Kun if we can or Tevez if possible.....

I believe Tevez/Kun >>>> Suarez when it comes to SS role...

Sell Vucinic????????
The man had been playing with one foot all season...
He has a knee problem & maybe u haven't noticed but when Vucinic is on form...he is one of the most deadly dribbler & passer in the game of football...I proved that vs Milan in the second leg of the Coppa Italia...

For the first time I don't think we can blame we can blame Marotta for not getting Aguero...
Even if Marotta had put up the 45 Mil...he would've went to Man City because they would've outbid us & no one expected Juve to be having such a great season...so he would have went to Premier League where he'd get more exposure not to mention Champions League football...

He is nowhere as good as you think he is, he is definitely Juventus' best attacker in the final third but he is not one of the best dribblers/passers in the game, not even close.

However, I'm a big fan of Mirko, I would not sell him but this season he has not been his best, his decisions sometimes are off putting, he holds onto the ball sometimes a little bit too long.

I would not sell him because he deserves his spot, Juventus has a lot of games to play next season.

Of course I would change him with one of the players that Elm pointed out but it really wouldn't come down to that, Mirko can play on the wings or through the middle. I don't see how it would be Mirko vs. Tevez for example.

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