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Post by leemhuis Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:28 am

In no real order, but still have to have won the CL/European Cup at least once.

Real Madrid
AC Milan
Liverpool
Juventus
Manchester United
Bayern
Barcelona
Inter
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Dortmund
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Post by isignedupjusttoseesigs Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:30 am

nottingham forest
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Post by leemhuis Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:33 am

isignedupjusttoseesigs wrote:nottingham forest

I considered them, but they are and have been in the second division for some time, so they are not any longer contenders.
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Post by Sushi Master Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:38 am

Historically, all of them are WC.

As of form, I'd say Barcelona, Milan, Bayern, Madrid and ManU.
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Post by Tomasso Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:49 am

Some clubs who have won a CL who are still in their top flight:

PSV, Feyernoord, Red Star Belgrade, Marseille, Hamburg, Aston Villa, Steaua Bucuresti... probably more but this is all I can think of for now.
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:14 am

so only european clubs are world class Rolling Eyes
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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:45 am

Rebaño Sagrado wrote:so only european clubs are world class Rolling Eyes

And don't you forget that
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Post by rwo power Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:02 am

In the 70es, Borussia M'gladbach fit the bill, too.
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Post by Ali Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:41 am

BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:
Rebaño Sagrado wrote:so only european clubs are world class Rolling Eyes

And don't you forget that

World Class Clubs, let us be honest SNtMb
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Post by BiasedMilanFan3 Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:01 am

Ali"The Superman"8775 wrote:
BiasedMilanFan3 wrote:
Rebaño Sagrado wrote:so only european clubs are world class Rolling Eyes

And don't you forget that

World Class Clubs, let us be honest SNtMb

Yeah, because, like Rebano, I was being serious
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Post by Kick Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:08 am

What is the point of this thread if you are not ranking them or even debating whether or not they are world class?

It's just a statement.
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:10 am

^To troll clubs like Chelsea,City and PSG
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Post by Tomasso Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:14 am

:lol!:
Le Samourai wrote:^To troll clubs like Chelsea,City and PSG
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Post by Kev Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:20 am

I wonder if Arsenal deserves to be on this list. The only reason why Borussia Dortmund is on this list, but Arsenal isn't, is one mere game (CL final- 2006).
Domestically, Arsenal is way more successful than BVB, but internationally, not as successful, trophy wise. Yet, Arsenal probably has been more consistent than BVB over the years, which surely must count towards something.
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Post by Kev Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:24 am

Also, I think Valencia FC deserves a shout out as well. Domestically, they are roughly as successful as BVB, and internationally, they were pretty close to winning 2 CLs in a row.
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Post by Tomasso Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:13 am

Kev wrote:I wonder if Arsenal deserves to be on this list. The only reason why Borussia Dortmund is on this list, but Arsenal isn't, is one mere game (CL final- 2006).
Domestically, Arsenal is way more successful than BVB, but internationally, not as successful, trophy wise. Yet, Arsenal probably has been more consistent than BVB over the years, which surely must count towards something.

It's not what clubs almost won that makes them world-class, its what they did win. Arsenal has never won a major European trophy. If you base it only on domestic titles than you also would have to include clubs like Genoa and Athletic Bilbao.
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Post by Kev Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:32 am

Tomasso wrote:
Kev wrote:I wonder if Arsenal deserves to be on this list. The only reason why Borussia Dortmund is on this list, but Arsenal isn't, is one mere game (CL final- 2006).
Domestically, Arsenal is way more successful than BVB, but internationally, not as successful, trophy wise. Yet, Arsenal probably has been more consistent than BVB over the years, which surely must count towards something.

It's not what clubs almost won that makes them world-class, its what they did win. Arsenal has never won a major European trophy. If you base it only on domestic titles than you also would have to include clubs like Genoa and Athletic Bilbao.
Hmmm, I think maybe it's just Dortmund's presence on the list that sparked my posts. I just find it hard to think that Dortmund's a WC club while Arsenal and Valencia are not. IMO, either both are or both aren't. If Dortmund's on it, then Aston Villa and Hamburg both have strong cases to be on the list as well.



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Post by rwo power Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:32 am

HSV is a dinosaur (actually that's their proper nickname even, not just made-up on the spot XD) - pretty strong in the past, but going extinct now, if they don't pull themselves together very fast Very Happy
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:37 am

HSV to get into the relegation-playoff against FC St. Pauli and lose - GET INNNN

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